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The Folsom @ 20th Jun 05:37AM:
Looks like the announcement is announced...

»forums.verizon.com/vrzn/board/me···9#M11529

Verizon will be upgrading speeds Starting Monday 6/22

(1) What speeds are available and where?
10/2 -> 15/5 (all service areas)
20/5 -> 25/15 (all service areas)
20/20 -> upgraded to 35/20 in NYC only
50/20 -> No change

(2) Will it be an automatic upgrade? Or will I need to call?
It will not be an Automatic upgrade. It will be just like last year however there may be a pricing change of $5-10 more check with your local Billing rep on for exact amounts. You can reach them through 888-553-1555 and following the billing prompts for a representative.

(3) When can I call and what should I say?
You can call on Monday and ask to be upgraded to the higher speed and rebundle.

(4) How much will the upgrade cost?
The best person to ask would be the Verizon Billing office on Monday. However if you only had internet service and are month to month the upgrade is free since that price hasn't changed. This will also be a 1 year Terms of Service agreement

(5) Can I get the upgrade if have just have an Internet+phone bundle? How about Internet+TV bundles?

you can get the upgrade if you have a bundle or not

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I'll be calling Monday... ;)
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bronxlcsw @ 20th Jun 09:19AM:
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I was about to go to staples and get a netbook. I will wait till monday and upgrade and pay the 99 dollars fee for the netbook. So i currently have 20/5 i can now bundle 35/15 in the Bronx???
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deblin @ 20th Jun 12:17PM:
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Sorry, mentioning this fluff thing again so any discussion related to it can continue in this thread from the other.

I'm hoping someone from Verizon can definitively explain this "fluff" thing and what it really means. I really hope it's not something like powerboost!
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glinc @ 20th Jun 12:23PM:
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its 6/21 i think

i'll be upgrading myself through my ordering site lol, instead of calling in.
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darcilicious @ 20th Jun 12:28PM:
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Tee hee, more proof that all Vz employees are not told the same thing ;-) (the OP was quoting a Vz employee)
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FiOS LIVE @ 20th Jun 12:30PM:
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I'm curious to know the details behind this "fluff" too. Sounds to me more like increased overhead or something.

On a side note: Speed tests indicate that I've lost up to 2 mbps only on my download side but upload is the same. What's the deal?
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Agent Smith @ 20th Jun 12:33PM:
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Everythings the same since months never changed


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UofMiamiGrad @ 20th Jun 12:33PM:
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I'll be curious to see what the price increase is from my 20/20 triple play bundle, currently $99.95/month, to the 35/20 with a triple play bundle. If it is not much, I may get that extra 15 Mbps down. Wished Verizon had upped the ante with Cablevision though and put out a package to compete with OOL Ultra. I'm sure they will eventually.
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Agent Smith @ 20th Jun 12:34PM:
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They probably competing with boost users that is 30/5 tier.

They not going to do 100Mb yet cause of the $300 activaton fee to get the Ultra plan on cable maybe when the fee gets lower then verizon will plan it.
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Archivis @ 20th Jun 03:24PM:
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I wonder if I can downgrade my second tier down to first tier.

I believe when I started, my second tier was 15/2 or something and now their first tier is 15/5.

I don't need 25/15.
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stevofc @ 20th Jun 03:28PM:
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That doesn't even make sense...

Why wouldn't the 20/20 tier change?

There has to obviously be a price increase for the current 20/5 people to go to 25/15 or else the 20/20 people are getting screwed...
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KenAF @ 20th Jun 03:51PM:
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said by stevofc :

That doesn't even make sense...

Why wouldn't the 20/20 tier change?

There has to obviously be a price increase for the current 20/5 people to go to 25/15 or else the 20/20 people are getting screwed...
There is a $5 to $10/mo increase for bundle customers to jump from 20/5 to 25/15. The amount of the increase varies by area and plan.

Customers with 20/20 are free to change their plan. If you prefer 25/15, you can switch with a call on Monday. Customers always have the freedom to change their tier; customers are never locked into a certain tier.

Some people feel that the extra 5Mbps upload is worth a premium. Others do not. Verizon lets you decide.
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Agent Smith @ 20th Jun 04:45PM:
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"20/20 -> upgraded to 35/20 in NYC only"

I have 20/20 so Monday ill call to have 35/20 you should get 20/20 then Monday 35/20.
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aaronwt @ 20th Jun 04:47PM:
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I'm hoping they will decide to offer the 35/20 in other competitive areas.
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Chaser @ 20th Jun 04:50PM:
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Over here in Edmonds, WA, I'm currently subscribed to the Triple Play Plan for $99/month. My internet speed is 10/2. I called them and asked how much it would cost to get the upgrade to 15/5, and they said that it will cost an extra $10/month.

I was so hoping that it was going to be for free, oh well.
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ztmike @ 20th Jun 05:05PM:
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said by The Folsom :

»forums.verizon.com/vrzn/board/me···9#M11529

Verizon will be upgrading speeds Starting Monday 6/22

(1) What speeds are available and where?
10/2 -> 15/5 (all service areas)
20/5 -> 25/15 (all service areas)
20/20 -> upgraded to 35/20 in NYC only
50/20 -> No change

Well those entry speeds just shat all over Comcasts "omgzitsDocsis3!" speeds, not to mention no caps on FiOS..to bad Verizon sold off my entire state. : /
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martinburger @ 20th Jun 05:10PM:
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I currently am "grandfathered" in the 30/5, would they be able to give me 30/15?

If 20/5 -> 20/15 then would 30/5 -> 30/15?
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Gary A @ 20th Jun 05:12PM:
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said by Chaser :

Over here in Edmonds, WA, I'm currently subscribed to the Triple Play Plan for $99/month. My internet speed is 10/2. I called them and asked how much it would cost to get the upgrade to 15/5, and they said that it will cost an extra $10/month.

I was so hoping that it was going to be for free, oh well.
I also have the 10/2 in my triple play. They won't upgrade you to the new minimum speed of 15/5 for free!?! :o Well that ticks me off. :mad: I was planning to call on Monday for the "free upgrade" after reading these posts over the past several days. That's what I get for listening to rumor and speculation.
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Chaser @ 20th Jun 05:15PM:
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said by Gary A :

said by Chaser :

I was so hoping that it was going to be for free, oh well.
I also have the 10/2 in my triple play. They won't upgrade you to the new minimum speed of 15/5 for free!?! :o Well that ticks me off. :mad: I was planning to call on Monday for the "free upgrade" after reading these posts over the past several days. That's what I get for listening to rumor and speculation.
Well, the price differs from state to state. So, you just might be lucky. Furthermore, the person I spoke to said that the prices were "tentative," but I didn't ask for an explantion.
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Cogdis @ 20th Jun 05:17PM:
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said by FiOS LIVE :

I'm curious to know the details behind this "fluff" too. Sounds to me more like increased overhead or something.

On a side note: Speed tests indicate that I've lost up to 2 mbps only on my download side but upload is the same. What's the deal?
Ever since I got Fios in August of last year I always get 24-25 Mb/s on the upload (20/20 package). My download never goes past 19.7, but the upload gets 25% more than it should.

I wonder if I change to the 25/15 if I'll end up getting 20 up lol...
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Agent Smith @ 20th Jun 05:20PM:
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I think it will stay the same this is only for NY/NJ .

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Gary A @ 20th Jun 05:46PM:
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said by Chaser :

Well, the price differs from state to state. So, you just might be lucky. Furthermore, the person I spoke to said that the prices were "tentative," but I didn't ask for an explantion.
Yeah, we are in different markets, so I shouldn't jump the gun. I'll just have to be one of many DSLR readers that clog the VZ phone lines on Monday. :D
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jefe @ 20th Jun 05:53PM:
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said by Gary :

A I'll just have to be one of many DSLR readers that clog the VZ phone lines on Monday. :D
I am going to be curious to read some experiences of those trying to call VZ on Monday. My guess is earlier adopters will have a longer wait that those that stood on line for the iPhone 3G last year.

Good luck with getting through. :o
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kes601 @ 20th Jun 06:08PM:
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I've been told that in Hampton Roads Market the bundle price will be going up to $119/month for Extreme HD and the 25/15 Internet.

$10 more for a 5 meg increase in download speed? No thanks.
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Chaser @ 20th Jun 06:10PM:
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At first, when I heard about the increase in speed, I was really excited, but now, after hearing about the price increase, I'm just not interested anymore.
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anon @ 20th Jun 06:51PM:
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I currently have 20/20 in central NJ, will I be able to upgrade, and if so to what? Anyone know? I dont know whether the "NYC" includes tristate area or w/e.... Thanks for the info
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KenAF @ 20th Jun 07:01PM:
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said by martinburger :

I currently am "grandfathered" in the 30/5, would they be able to give me 30/15?

If 20/5 -> 20/15 then would 30/5 -> 30/15?
There is no 30/15 plan. You can only switch to one of the tiers mentioned in the first post.
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Agent Smith @ 20th Jun 07:39PM:
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I think its also all over NJ and D-NY stands for downstate NY which means the Tri-state if im not mistaking.
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Gary A @ 20th Jun 08:28PM:
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said by Agent Smith :

When i release the DHCP my ip always change from 173 to 73 to 96 just gota keep going.
BTW - I released the DHCP IP in my AT router 4 times today and powered off the router for at least 10 minutes each time. Every time it came back up on the 173.65.x.x block. :huh:
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NY Tel @ 20th Jun 09:26PM:
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said by Chaser :

At first, when I heard about the increase in speed, I was really excited, but now, after hearing about the price increase, I'm just not interested anymore.
Agreed. I have 20X5 and my billing is correct. I am not going to risk it and I really don't need the speed increase.
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Chaser @ 20th Jun 09:52PM:
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Currently, I'm subscribed to the Triple Play Plan, Good Bundle. My internet speed is 10/2 and I pay $99/month. For $10 more, I can subscribe to the Better Bundle and receive more channels as well as a faster internet speed of 20/5.

However, I can wait until Monday, request that I receive the upgrade for $10 more, and receive a speed of 15/5 and no extra channels.

So, let's see:

Upgrade now for +$10/month:
internet speed: 20/5
53 more HD channels

Upgrade Monday for +$10/month:
internet speed: 15/5
no extra channels

For some of us, this isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade.
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The Folsom @ 20th Jun 11:18PM:
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said by Chaser :

Over here in Edmonds, WA, I'm currently subscribed to the Triple Play Plan for $99/month. My internet speed is 10/2. I called them and asked how much it would cost to get the upgrade to 15/5, and they said that it will cost an extra $10/month.

I was so hoping that it was going to be for free, oh well.
I'm gonna go for that and try for the netbook, too. I don't mind extending the contract as I am very satisfied with the service.

Best internet and bundle I've ever had, with more product for less than I was paying before. :)
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eco @ 20th Jun 11:30PM:
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I have a feeling the netbook is only for new subscribers, not existing ones that extend their contract.
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 12:30AM:
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They alredy updated it here are the speeds.

»www22.verizon.com/Residential/Fi···lans.htm
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SoCalDude @ 21st Jun 12:57AM:
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said by Agent Smith :

They alredy updated it here are the speeds.

»www22.verizon.com/Residential/Fi···lans.htm
No 20/20 .. 25/15 is overpriced.
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anon @ 21st Jun 01:42AM:
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ill probably change from 20/20 to 25/15
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donjuan2002 @ 21st Jun 01:13AM:
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is those prices include the phone, because I pay 69.99 with 20/5 and phone service, if the 25/15 with phone is 64.99 i will save money...
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Cogdis @ 21st Jun 01:17AM:
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So they raised the rates and increased speeds. They need to do better than that if they expect to add customers in competitive areas.
I don't think any average net users would take the lowest fios package for $110+$20 in fees when they can get the cablevision triple play for $90+ less then $10 in fees).

Around here cablevision has the goods and they can hold their own against Fios.
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gmsbf5104 @ 21st Jun 01:17AM:
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Bundle prices vary by market. Here in Tampa your bundle costs 79.99.

So far it isn't looking like Florida is getting any type of deal as was rumored. I would like the extra speed but not at $10+. At $5 I would have considered it.

EDIT: Actually looks like I jumped to quick and the best bundle drops by $10 which will be nice if I comparing them correctly.
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SoCalDude @ 21st Jun 01:18AM:
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These are stand alone prices for internet only.
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donjuan2002 @ 21st Jun 01:19AM:
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»www22.verizon.com/Residential/bu···esab.htm

My price will go up $20 I will not upgrade
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SoCalDude @ 21st Jun 01:22AM:
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Here are all the triple play bundles

»www22.verizon.com/residential/bu···sab.aspx
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Raphion @ 21st Jun 01:25AM:
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Boo. I thought 25/15 was going to be the same $55 price as the 20/5 had been. With that being $65, I'm gonna stay on the bottom tier, though I'll be calling to get the bump to 15/5.
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SoCalDude @ 21st Jun 01:28AM:
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I hope DSL EXTREME sells these speed tiers for cheaper.
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RolteC @ 21st Jun 01:29AM:
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Nice changes.
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RolteC @ 21st Jun 01:32AM:
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Its actually correct.

Im currently at 129.99 for the best bundle. So for $5/more a month I wil get 15Mbps faster downloads. I will call tomorrow!
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Cogdis @ 21st Jun 01:35AM:
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Thanks for that post roltec, I didn't see the $99 package when I checked. That's a little more reasonable (Still much more than the competition though).
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RolteC @ 21st Jun 01:51AM:
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Here are the "order now" prizes!
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jimboe @ 21st Jun 02:11AM:
So the premium tier subscribers get "the shaft"..

Disappointed..

Before, it was a $65 premium (loss of bundle discounts + higher priced tier) to go from 20/20, to 50/20.. (Here in Downstate NY)

..A respectable 30mbps jump in DL speed; quite worth the extra $65 IMHO.

Now, "everyone's" gotten a speed bump, except the "premium" subs, and for the same continued extra $65 monthly, "we're" only a paltry 15mbps higher in downstream.

I'll still stay where I am, but, it just doesn't seem right to me.

I fear the above will make their top tier attractive to far fewer ppl than it was prior to this "upgrade".

Can't understand it.. It's NOT like the DON'T have the available bandwidth..

sigh..
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anon @ 21st Jun 02:58AM:
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you lose bundle discounts if you want a higher speed internet than the one included???
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KenAF @ 21st Jun 03:14AM:
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said by sbtim :

you lose bundle discounts if you want a higher speed internet than the one included???
Yes.
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The Folsom @ 21st Jun 03:56AM:
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said by eco :

I have a feeling the netbook is only for new subscribers, not existing ones that extend their contract.
If you're right, I'll have to find a way to do without. ;)
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birdfeedr @ 21st Jun 07:13AM:
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An interesting new option: 1-year or 6-month bundle. There is no difference between package prices 1-year or 6-month.

Not able to find a month-to-month bundle. The implication is that month-to-month pricing goes to full price for all services individually.

I think there was a month-to-month bundle previously. IIRC a triple play cost less than the sum of individual services. Then again, I haven't looked at the ordering system in a while, so this may be already in place and I just never knew it.

[edit to add]This is from the bundle offer available to me in RI. Other service areas may have different plans and terms. FWIW, If I took the current Good, not Better, I'd end up with cost $15 more per month and 5Mb down less. I was able to get TV, phone and 20/5 on a 2-year contract for $95 per (before the HD Extreme lineup). I'll continue until my contract expires in December.
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bronxlcsw @ 21st Jun 07:40AM:
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I went online and ordered with no problem. I am existing customer and went with the 134.99 deal since i already have the 129 dollar bundle. For 5 dollars more i get 15mbs increase and 15 increase on the download as well. Not too shabby. Avtivation is set for this coming tuesday. They bill the 99 dollars net book fee to your phone bill.
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anon @ 21st Jun 08:03AM:
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said by Chaser :

Over here in Edmonds, WA, I'm currently subscribed to the Triple Play Plan for $99/month. My internet speed is 10/2. I called them and asked how much it would cost to get the upgrade to 15/5, and they said that it will cost an extra $10/month.

I was so hoping that it was going to be for free, oh well.
Eventually, I think the price will go back down to $99 for the cheapest bundle. When they increased the speeds last year, the $99 bundle was increased in price also. Eventually, it came back down to $99. I think $99/month is a sweet spot for a lot of people and hopefully it will make a come back.
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JeepMatt @ 21st Jun 08:10AM:
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Thanks for the screen shots guys -

Visited the website -

Currently I have the triple with ALL premiums and 20/5 for $139.99

They only offer me two bundles online - the BEST is a triple with 25/15 but only Showtime for $129.99 - I don't even get an option to add the rest of the premiums, so i'll wait until tomorrow and call in.

To be honest, and i know i'll get flack, I'm seriously getting tired of this - "Let's give NY a special offer every damn time" - and don't give me the competition line - here in DE you can go with Comcast, FIOS, Dish or Direct -

Curse you NY! LOL. No wonder I hate the Mets! :p :p
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KenAF @ 21st Jun 08:29AM:
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At Verizon.com, I'm seeing any TV+Internet bundles for VA. I suppose we'll have to call for those.
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Cogdis @ 21st Jun 08:31AM:
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said by JeepMatt :

and don't give me the competition line - here in DE you can go with Comcast, FIOS, Dish or Direct -
Lol Matt I know you don't want to hear it but I really can't think of any other reason for NY to have the better deals except for competition from Cablevision.
Cablevision has the triple play @ $30 per service ($90 total). And they give you the boost tier (30/5) free for a year. CV really has their stuff together and we have them to thank for keeping Verizon in check (imo).
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glinc @ 21st Jun 08:43AM:
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@RolteC

That's exactly everything I posted.

»Any new Speed tiers?

and was posted days ago lol

And as for internet only plans, meh.....lets wait to see if august brings better prices and plans because i'll not drop my 20/20 $69.99.
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birdfeedr @ 21st Jun 08:44AM:
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said by KenAF :

At Verizon.com, I'm seeing any TV+Internet bundles for VA. I suppose we'll have to call for those.
I think they're still prepping the system. Earlier, same for me. Now TV/Internet bundles are available, but then again, I'm not looking at what is available for me as an existing customer. I'm looking at what's available for a new customer using and address down the street.

In RI:

Internet only, 1-year, month-to-month
15/5, $50, $60
25/15, $70, $78
50/20, $145, $165

Phone only
Local only, $20
Local and long distance, $45
plus VM, CID, CW, $50

TV only
Local only, $13
Essentials, $48
Extreme, $58

Phone, TV, Internet, see my screenshot above.

Phone, Internet
I think it's local phone only (Double Freedom)
15/5, $30 $80
25/15, $40 $90
[edited to reflect current, but changing plans online. system is still being updated]

TV, Internet
15/5 and Essentials, $85
25/15 and Extreme, $95

I'm good until December, then I get to figure out what I want to pay for. Local TV or no TV is definitely an option. His Majesty will lose Animal Planet unless he convinces me otherwise. :D
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Gary A @ 21st Jun 08:51AM:
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said by gmsbf5104 :

Bundle prices vary by market. Here in Tampa your bundle costs 79.99.

So far it isn't looking like Florida is getting any type of deal as was rumored. I would like the extra speed but not at $10+. At $5 I would have considered it.

EDIT: Actually looks like I jumped to quick and the best bundle drops by $10 which will be nice if I comparing them correctly.
I don't think they are offering us any good deal here in Tampa. I am currently paying $94.99 for:

Freedom Essentials Phone ($24.01)
Internet 10/2 ($33.99)
Premier TV ($36.99) - channel lineup puts it somewhere between Essentials & Extreme HD

So for $15 more a month I can get the Good bundle and upgrade my internet speed to 15/5 and downgrade my TV to Essentials!?! hmmm - NOT! :mad:

For $25 more a month I can get the Better bundle and upgrade my internet speed to 25/15 and upgrade my TV to Extreme HD where I still don't get Spike HD but I do get the Cooking Channel HD!?! hmmm - again, NOT! :mad:

I don't see any deals here for me. :huh:
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JeepMatt @ 21st Jun 08:53AM:
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After playing around some more on the site - it does look like the All Access Movie pak (all premiums) is going up from $30/mo to $35...

In reality, at least here in DE - it looks like this is what happened:

The bundle is going up from $109.99 to $119.99 - and the premiums are going up $5 / month.

So, if I were to keep what I have - and get the 25/15 bump - it looks like i'd be paying $15 MORE per month.

At this point, i'm not sure if I'll take the plunge or not. I thought we were in a shitty economy and dealing with competition? LOL. ;)

Looks like I'd pay $20 more per month than New Yorkers plus get a lower internet speed (25/15 vs 35/20). Wow...numbers really do speak.

In the end though, I'll still give em' a call tomorrow and see what's up.
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Gary A @ 21st Jun 09:07AM:
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I agree with you JeepMatt. In this economy where I am watching everything I spend, these are not good deals.

Chaser (page 2) hit the nail on the head - "For some of us, this isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade."
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birdfeedr @ 21st Jun 09:08AM:
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They are still changing the packaging.

In RI, the Double Freedom is $80 and $90, or $30 and $40, depending on when I try to order. Trying to order the $30 has no details for the phone.

I think online ordering is still being updated. Wait until it settles down, unless you want to go through BillingHell(tm), a free service offered by Verizon at no-additional charge. ;)
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JohnA @ 21st Jun 09:09AM:
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2 weeks of total chaos, is my guess. i don't need to get in the middle of that.

Until/unless someone comes back with a $10 discount for existing customers, as when Extreme TV came out, I can't justify playing in this game. TV is up $10, which means they're now charging for HD, and unless you move up your internet speed too, your bundle discount shrinks. At least that's how I read the various changes, by playing with the bundle options.
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TheOtherPete @ 21st Jun 09:10AM:
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said by deblin :

Sorry, mentioning this fluff thing again so any discussion related to it can continue in this thread from the other.

I'm hoping someone from Verizon can definitively explain this "fluff" thing and what it really means. I really hope it's not something like powerboost!
As far as I can tell, the term "fluff" was first mentioned here: »Re: Any new Speed tiers?

And that seems to refer to the practice of VZ over-provisioning the download speed so that when you do a speed test it shows the d/l speed you signed up for rather than a lower number caused by normal tcp/ip overhead so that folks won't complain that they aren't getting what they are paid for.

Hopefully vzguy1 will confirm but for now I would not assume that this is a gimmick like powerboost.
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guppy_fish @ 21st Jun 09:31AM:
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I guess we will have to wait for tomorrow to see what the actual cost is for current triple play customers. I too went online, my current 109.99 package is listed as 119.99 now but it also has the teaser of the netbook to sign up.

My thought ( or hope ) is current customers can get the speed bump without the 10 dollar hit as the higher price is to cover the 2X increase in incentive $$ ( 150 Visa card vs the new net book promotion )

I was hoping to do this online, now I'll wait till someone finds out for sure to what the speed bump costs ...
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glinc @ 21st Jun 09:39AM:
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said by guppy_fish :

I guess we will have to wait for tomorrow to see what the actual cost is for current triple play customers. I too went online, my current 109.99 package is listed as 119.99 now but it also has the teaser of the netbook to sign up.

My thought ( or hope ) is current customers can get the speed bump without the 10 dollar hit as the higher price is to cover the 2X increase in incentive $$ ( 150 Visa card vs the new net book promotion )

I was hoping to do this online, now I'll wait till someone finds out for sure to what the speed bump costs ...
Existing customers wanting the netbook have to upgrade to their new triple bundles and will end up paying $99+S/H+tax for the netbook.

Existing customers won't get any speed increase if you don't sign up for the more expensive bundles.
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NastyGrouch @ 21st Jun 10:05AM:
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Whats wierd i see both 25/15 and 35/20 are both 69 bucks, i dont get it.

I dont even know what to choose since both new speeds are 69 bucks. I think ill wait to speak to someone tomorow. hopefuly i can get a better bundle deal since i like my bundle price now.
i now have the tv plus internet with extreme for 90 or soemthing like that with all the movie channels.
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deblin @ 21st Jun 10:24AM:
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said by TheOtherPete :

said by deblin :

Sorry, mentioning this fluff thing again so any discussion related to it can continue in this thread from the other.

I'm hoping someone from Verizon can definitively explain this "fluff" thing and what it really means. I really hope it's not something like powerboost!
As far as I can tell, the term "fluff" was first mentioned here: »Re: Any new Speed tiers?

And that seems to refer to the practice of VZ over-provisioning the download speed so that when you do a speed test it shows the d/l speed you signed up for rather than a lower number caused by normal tcp/ip overhead so that folks won't complain that they aren't getting what they are paid for.

Hopefully vzguy1 will confirm but for now I would not assume that this is a gimmick like powerboost.
I know a comparison was made and/or it was mentioned, but it sounded to me like it was something more significant than something compensating for the overhead of TCP/IP.

The overhead of TCP/IP is only about 2.67 %. So for a 25/15 plan, you'd be talking provisioned speeds 25.67 down and 15.4 up.

The 'fluff' seemed like it was something more, but I guess we'll find out Monday when some speed tests start flowing in :)
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jefe @ 21st Jun 10:47AM:
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This page was available under My Services on the My Verizon web site. I was logged on to my account to see it.

Pretty weird that 35/20 and 25/15 are both available...at the same price.
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Steely @ 21st Jun 10:50AM:
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My current monthly charges are $99.99 Triple Freedom (includes 20/5 Internet speeds and Extreme HD) plus $30 for all the premium movie channels (total = $129.99). If I understand all this mumbo jumbo correctly, the NEW deal (with an annual or 6-month agreement) would be $134.99, or $5 per month more than I'm paying now, for the exact same thing I currently have, with the exception of the bump in Internet speeds from 20/5 to 25/15.

Worth it??? I don't know. First, when I go through the initial steps of the online ordering process I don't see anything about getting the Compaq Mini Netbook for $99, which, frankly, would be one of the justifications for upgrading into a higher monthly fee. Second, I have roughly 6 months left on my current annual agreement, so over that time period I'd be paying an additional $30 (6 x $5/mo) for the speed bump (and POSSIBLY the option to buy the Netbook at the special price...which I can't confirm). I'm not sure 25/15 is worth spending $5/mo for when I'm pretty happy with 20/5. Third, the online ordering process says I can save $5/mo for 6 months by ordering online. If true, that would exactly offset the $5/month increase of the new bundle...but the thought of ordering online scares me!

I wonder, if I DON'T renew now, what will happen in 6 months when my current bundle agreement expires? Will the bundle offers be even more expensive then?

I thought I read somewhere not too long ago that the higher speed tiers will be rolled out in August to all customers for free upon request. Does that mean I'd be able to get 25/15 speeds in August without a billing change just by calling and asking for it? Or has that notion been totally shot down? Guess I'm still a bit confused by all this.
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blohner @ 21st Jun 10:50AM:
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I was going to sign up for 25/15 today - but they did away with the discount for FIOS Internet + Wireless One Bill (with no Phone or TV) and want 69.99 now...
On the old 20/5 plan it was 45.00 after discount.... (Now I would pay 49.99 for just 15/5...).
I guess I'll stick with what I have for now...
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DVRaholic @ 21st Jun 10:58AM:
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Business Fios has changed too

»www22.verizon.com/content/busine···ices.htm

Im paying $99 a month right now for 20/20 Business Fios so I will without a doubt be downgrading to 25/15 and Saving $30 a month :)
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gmsbf5104 @ 21st Jun 10:59AM:
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said by Gary A :

said by gmsbf5104 :

I don't think they are offering us any good deal here in Tampa.

I don't see any deals here for me. :huh:
Yeah it looks like it only benefits you at the top package. Now the question is if I switch do I lose the $30 off a month for 6 months since I opted for that over the Visa card?
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Gary A @ 21st Jun 10:59AM:
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said by Steely :

I wonder, if I DON'T renew now, what will happen in 6 months when my current bundle agreement expires? Will the bundle offers be even more expensive then?
I'm in pretty much the same situation as you, my current 2-yr bundle ends in November. What will happen to my monthly price? Will my only option be to go to the "Better" bundle for $25 more per month? I have no idea what the month-to-month price increase would be. Will they let me stay on the now discontinued Premier TV package? Will they keep me on the now discontinued 10/2 internet tier? Its hard to make an informed decision without all the information.

On the surface, these new bundles and prices are not a good deal for me, but waiting for my 2-yr agreement to end, could be worse.

said by Steely :

I thought I read somewhere not too long ago that the higher speed tiers will be rolled out in August to all customers for free upon request. Does that mean I'd be able to get 25/15 speeds in August without a billing change just by calling and asking for it? Or has that notion been totally shot down? Guess I'm still a bit confused by all this.
Like you, I'm just as confused by all this.
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NY Tel @ 21st Jun 11:08AM:
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And here is what was on my page.
Click for full size
Notice the new speeds in the body of the descriptions
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ravensfan55 @ 21st Jun 11:17AM:
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Is the $64.99 for the 25/15 before bundle savings? I'm trying to make a decision to get it or not, for a $3-$4 I'd probably make the switch but not for another $13.
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jefe @ 21st Jun 11:22AM:
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I found a "Bundles" tab and tried to go there and got a "server busy, try later error." :uhh:

But my current contract doesn't expire until April, 2010. When I click on the 24 month price guarantee link I get this little jewel.

I want to be careful because the reason I came over to FiOS in the first place was to save some $$$. I don't want to shoot myself in the foot. :p

edit: Looking at the bundles page you posted, NY Tel, it seems as if I currently have the first package, but at $94.99/mo.
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 11:33AM:
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Verizon take years to update the site by monday everything should be set.
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NY Tel @ 21st Jun 11:34AM:
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Yes is "appears" that the bundles are all ten dollars more a month (just a generalization) because I have the double play - Internet and TV (No phone with Verizon) and my double play is 79.99 a month. I pay extra for the HD-DVR so my total after taxes is 96.99.
I am not going to even attempt to make a change for a few more megs of throughput except if it were for free.

I work for an Internet/managed services provider on Long Island and we have 5 disparate connections out to the world and each "pipe" is a symmetrical 100X100.
While it is a bit faster, It is not so much faster that the torque causes my pc to shift in place on my desk.

There comes a time where you just don't need that kind of speed for normal Internet Access.

I'm staying where I am. :)
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Steely @ 21st Jun 11:43AM:
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said by NY Tel :

I am not going to even attempt to make a change for a few more megs of throughput except if it were for free......I'm staying where I am. :)
I was just thinking the same thing. I think I'll sit tight for at least a few weeks and let the madness subside while evaluating the successes and failures of others. I'm not exactly unhappy with my monthly bill or my present 20/5 speeds. Why risk screwing it up?

I say let the confusion die down. We can always reassess later. These plans are new; they're not going away anytime soon!
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darcilicious @ 21st Jun 11:52AM:
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Being on a non-bundled contract with 20/20 I'm definitely waiting until August for the rumored additional changes/news...
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Acerone @ 21st Jun 11:54AM:
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said by jefe :

This page was available under My Services on the My Verizon web site. I was logged on to my account to see it.

Pretty weird that 35/20 and 25/15 are both available...at the same price.
That has to be an error...
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Gary A @ 21st Jun 12:16PM:
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said by Agent Smith :

Verizon take years to update the site by monday everything should be set.
Exactly how many "years" will have passed by Monday (tomorrow)? :D
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 12:23PM:
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Hopefully cause i got the 20/20 plan bundled from before and they will let me upgrade to 35/20 tomorrow :D rebundled.
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sameshtdd @ 21st Jun 12:26PM:
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20/5 is plenty for my family. Even though I never ever had a single Fios billing problem, I think I'm gonna stay with what I got. A new router besides the Actiontec would be nice, but no real complaints!
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Acerone @ 21st Jun 01:05PM:
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How much did 20/20 cost you?
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FiOS LIVE @ 21st Jun 01:20PM:
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said by darcilicious :

Being on a non-bundled contract with 20/20 I'm definitely waiting until August for the rumored additional changes/news...
I'm going to do the same since I've got a 1 year contract until Jan 2010 with a Triple Play including 20/20, Extreme HD with Movies/HBO/Cinemax, and Phone. I see nothing new for me with this latest batch of speed tier changes since I plan on staying on a symmetrical tier for as long as Verizon will let me. Looks like I'll have to see what happens in August about the rumored 25/25 tier. At this point that's not looking good since Verizon's site doesn't even show a 20/20 tier available anymore.
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 01:20PM:
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From 20/5 bundle to 20/20 i think it was 15$ more .
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UofMiamiGrad @ 21st Jun 01:31PM:
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said by Agent Smith :

Hopefully cause i got the 20/20 plan bundled from before and they will let me upgrade to 35/20 tomorrow :D rebundled.
Agent Smith,

Let me know the outcome, cause I might do the same with my 20/20 bundle. Thanks
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 01:55PM:
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I think you can you can call monday i will do the same although i assume 35/20 is only available to current customers that have 20/20 before bundled.

If you have 20/20 before bundled as the tech told me you can upgrade to 35/20 on monday with out breaking the bundle.

"20/20 -> upgraded to 35/20 in (NYC) only"
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anon @ 21st Jun 02:02PM:
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Funny...

Im only paying for 20/5 @

- Verizon Freedom Essentials $24.01
- FiOS Internet 20/5 $43.99
- FiOS TV Premier $36.99

This doesn't seem like any nice upgrade to me. Seems like a price hack. My internet would go up to 64.99$ for 25/15 according to the website.
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kim11364 @ 21st Jun 02:02PM:
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I live in Queens, NY. Is 35/20 plan available for my location?
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JohnA @ 21st Jun 02:11PM:
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said by glinc :

Existing customers wanting the netbook have to upgrade to their new triple bundles and will end up paying $99+S/H+tax for the netbook.
Did a quick chat this morning. First I was told that I would get all the online offers. When I said I didn't want a netbook, the agent said "that offer is for new customers only".

If you follow the #1 and #2 footnotes down the page, it says: "Offer for residential customers new to Verizon Freedom, FiOS TV and Internet. $179 early termination, $49.99 activation, & other fees, taxes, charges & terms apply. Actual speeds may vary. Subject to credit approval & may require a deposit. FiOS available in select areas. Offer through 8/15. Must install by 10/15/09". This is on all the triples, so atleast one of the 3 services must be new to your account.

The $99 offer is in the Essentials TV triple footnote #1: "¹Flip Ultra™ Camcorder produced by Pure Digital Technologies, Inc. while supplies last. Must have service for 60 days with no past due balance to qualify. Gift will be sent within 90 days of install date. 99.99 Compaq Mini netbook (or product of comparable value) available with $200 coupon redeemable online at HP Home & Home Office while supplies last. Valid credit card required. Must have service for 60 days with no past due balance. Coupon sent within 90 days of install date & requires redemption within 60 days of receipt. Price Guarantee applies to base monthly rate only and is void if changes are made to the service plan. Excludes optional services. Rate may change after 24 months."

The free offer is in the two Extreme TV triples footnote #2: "²Flip Ultra™ Camcorder produced by Pure Digital Technologies, Inc. while supplies last. Must have service for 60 days with no past due balance to qualify. Gift will be sent within 90 days of install date. Compaq Mini netbook (or product of comparable value) available with $299.99 coupon redeemable online at HP Home & Home Office while supplies last. Valid credit card required. Must have service for 60 days with no past due balance. Coupon sent within 90 days of install date & requires redemption within 60 days of receipt. Price Guarantee applies to base monthly rate only and is void if changes are made to the service plan. Excludes optional services. Rate may change after 24 months."

Given all of that, I see no incentive for existing triples to upgrade, unless you really need the new data speed. For the vast majority, the data speed bump is insignificant, if it costs more $$.
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 02:15PM:
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I believe its available to anyone in the 5 borough of NYC with the 20/20 plan.

»forums.verizon.com/vrzn/board/me···g&page=2

"The 35/20 is only offered with a triple bundle and not a internet only plan."

So if you have the triple play then your fine to upgrade if not then i dont think so.
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jadebangle @ 21st Jun 02:40PM:
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There is only 3 tier
»www22.verizon.com/Residential/Fi···lans.htm
15/5 $45-50.00
25/15 $65-70.00
50/20 $140-145.00
one year agreement
5/2,10/2 has been grandfathered
The difference of bundle vs unbundle is 5.00

for month to month, the 15/2 cost 10 dollars more
for 50/20, cost 20 dollars more.
25/15 same price month to month or 1 year agreement
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 02:43PM:
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I know there is no 35/20 cause you have to call and ask that if you have 20/20 if they can upgrade you if your on a bundle to 35/20.
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sangreal @ 21st Jun 06:12PM:
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It seems it would be $13 more per month for me to go from 20/20 to 25/15. No thanks

I need to look into getting into a bundle (I have TV and Internet, but I don't think I'm getting any bundle discount and my contract ended a long time ago)
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kes601 @ 21st Jun 06:31PM:
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Given all of that, I see no incentive for existing triples to upgrade, unless you really need the new data speed. For the vast majority, the data speed bump is insignificant, if it costs more $$.
Unfortunately once our current bundle contract is up we will all be forced to either go month-to-month or switch to the higher priced bundle pricing to stay with FiOS.
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Gary A @ 21st Jun 06:42PM:
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How do you find out the month-to-month price?
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Cogdis @ 21st Jun 06:45PM:
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Does anybody know if the HBO/MAX/Movie package will stay $30 for those of us that had it already? And if it does, will it stay $30 if we change bundles?
My aunt had the $12.99 movie package grandfathered even after she changed bundles earlier this year, but I'm wondering if this is different.
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Springbokke @ 21st Jun 06:53PM:
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According to the online site for the 20/5 & Extreme HD TV bundle it will cots $15 more a month to get the 25/15 internet. That's too expensive.
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kes601 @ 21st Jun 06:54PM:
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said by Cogdis :

Does anybody know if the HBO/MAX/Movie package will stay $30 for those of us that had it already? And if it does, will it stay $30 if we change bundles?
My aunt had the $12.99 movie package grandfathered even after she changed bundles earlier this year, but I'm wondering if this is different.
I was told it would stay at $30 if you subscribed to it before the 21st of June.
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 06:58PM:
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Is on plans.
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v4npro @ 21st Jun 07:02PM:
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said by Springbokke :

According to the online site for the 20/5 & Extreme HD TV bundle it will cots $15 more a month to get the 25/15 internet. That's too expensive.
Whaaaat? How can it cost $15 more a month for 25/15 when it was the same price on the website for 20/5.
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Springbokke @ 21st Jun 07:08PM:
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said by v4npro :

said by Springbokke :

According to the online site for the 20/5 & Extreme HD TV bundle it will cots $15 more a month to get the 25/15 internet. That's too expensive.
Whaaaat? How can it cost $15 more a month for 25/15 when it was the same price on the website for 20/5.
My post was not clear. I logged into my account and to upgrade my plan (20/5 & Extreme HD TV) to 25/15 & Extreme HD TV will cost $15 more per month.
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v4npro @ 21st Jun 07:11PM:
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said by Springbokke :

said by v4npro :

said by Springbokke :

According to the online site for the 20/5 & Extreme HD TV bundle it will cots $15 more a month to get the 25/15 internet. That's too expensive.
Whaaaat? How can it cost $15 more a month for 25/15 when it was the same price on the website for 20/5.
My post was not clear. I logged into my account and to upgrade my plan (20/5 & Extreme HD TV) to 25/15 & Extreme HD TV will cost $15 more per month.
Damn thats disappointing. I'm not sure if that's worth the extra money to me.
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NastyGrouch @ 21st Jun 07:12PM:
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so basicaly we all got fooled, we thought we would somehow get a deal but instead all the prices went up and if you want to upgrade form 20/5 it will cost you more . Im confused.

I have the double play tv and internet20/5 with extreme hd and 3 boxes for 127 a month. I hope it doesnt jump up 15 bucks just to get 25/15
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v4npro @ 21st Jun 07:14PM:
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We pay $170 a month without taxes, internet/tv/phone. That's with 20/5 and extremeHD.

Looking at the fios bundle site, looks like it's the same price with the new 25/15.. so confused.
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NastyGrouch @ 21st Jun 07:17PM:
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170 a month, jesus christ thats pricey, in my services i see the option to add 35/20 as an option for 13 bucks more but i will wait till tomorow to ask them since both 25/15 and 35/20 both are priced the same, if i can get 35/20 for the price of 25/15 then ill switch
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v4npro @ 21st Jun 07:19PM:
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said by NastyGrouch :

170 a month, jesus christ thats pricey, in my services i see the option to add 35/20 as an option for 13 bucks more but i will wait till tomorow to ask them since both 25/15 and 35/20 both are priced the same, if i can get 35/20 for the price of 25/15 then ill switch
Yeah, 2 HD boxes, and 4 standard ones.. got all channels for tv.. taxes takes it over $200.. if only a company would not charge for the STB's.
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NastyGrouch @ 21st Jun 07:21PM:
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After looking further if it seems we also get 5 bucks off, im thinking i can switch from 20/5 to 35/15 for 6 bucks more a month, im hoping
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v4npro @ 21st Jun 07:25PM:
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well if you can get that for $6 more.. then that's worth it, I'm still going to call tomorrow and see.
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jadebangle @ 21st Jun 07:29PM:
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It can be confusing when it was 4 tier
now its down to 3
from 10/2, 20/5, 20/20, 50/20
to 15/5, 25/15, 50/20

Its all marketing
user who had 20/20 = 25/15
user who had 20/5 = 15/5
25/15 over 20/20 is a downgrade for some who really need 20mb upload.
they don't automatically upgrade everyone
old speed 10/2, 20/5 and 20/20 phased out

The old rumor of 15/15, 25/25 and 75/25 would make more sense for upgrade.
This isn't even an upgrade at all
Verizon is definitely smoking something this time
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NY Tel @ 21st Jun 07:34PM:
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This is a general comment to the forum:

I think everyone needs to wait till tomorrow to see what the reality is. I remember in previous upgrades, the web site the day before did not accurately reflect what the offer was going to be.

All good things come to those who wait..... :p :p
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birdfeedr @ 21st Jun 07:34PM:
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said by kes601 :

Unfortunately once our current bundle contract is up we will all be forced to either go month-to-month or switch to the higher priced bundle pricing to stay with FiOS.
If you're in a bundle when it expires, you're automatically changed to month-to-month, which will always be more than any of the bundles. I know there may be some people who have not had their rates changed at the end of a contract. I'll call them exceptions or an anomaly. Normally, you'll go to month-to-month. But, look at the prices. Month-to-month rates have gone up too.

My strategy is to look at what I'm currently getting, determine the new rate for the comparable package, then figure how much extra I would pay if I upgraded it now instead of at the end of the existing contract. Next figure if I want the speed bump for the price it would cost.

I have 6 months remaining before I have to decide. It would cost me $15 more to drop down to 15/5. Ok that's out. Stay with current plan.

But I can pay $25 more for 25/15 and bump up to Extreme. $150 extra for more speed and RFD-TV. Hmmm. Maybe. Maybe not. Don't need a netbook.

Or just ride the contract out. Re-evaluate in December. Maybe there will be additional incentive package then. In December, I can guarantee a bundle will be cheaper than the same individual services. Only way it goes cheaper is if I decide drop the TV and bump up the data. And, no problem then because I can change the bundle with no penalty.
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v4npro @ 21st Jun 07:35PM:
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15/5 doesn't compete with cable as to being the low end tier. I really would of loved 25/15 to be a free or less than $6 extra upgrade a month. For being a 20/5 user, I rather have 25/5 for a free upgrade than 25/15 for $15 extra a month. I don't upload much at all.
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kdwycha @ 21st Jun 07:53PM:
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This is just for the NYC and NJ market right? I have been reading these posts and everything appears to be just for that one market and not all FiOS customers. I am in Tampa Florida and am sorta curious if my 10/2 would be 15/5 or whatever.

thanks :D
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Agent Smith @ 21st Jun 07:54PM:
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What ever you see on the image post that say D-NY/NJ is mostly only for there.
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kdwycha @ 21st Jun 08:15PM:
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said by kdwycha :

This is just for the NYC and NJ market right? I have been reading these posts and everything appears to be just for that one market and not all FiOS customers. I am in Tampa Florida and am sorta curious if my 10/2 would be 15/5 or whatever.

thanks :D
Actually I looked at the main FiOS tier's page and it appears 15/5 is on that page now and the netbook offer. So I would imagine that means anyone on 10/2 will be 15/5 tomorrow :D Hope to wake up to the new speeds ;)
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kes601 @ 21st Jun 08:17PM:
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said by kdwycha :

said by kdwycha :

This is just for the NYC and NJ market right? I have been reading these posts and everything appears to be just for that one market and not all FiOS customers. I am in Tampa Florida and am sorta curious if my 10/2 would be 15/5 or whatever.

thanks :D
Actually I looked at the main FiOS tier's page and it appears 15/5 is on that page now and the netbook offer. So I would imagine that means anyone on 10/2 will be 15/5 tomorrow :D Hope to wake up to the new speeds ;)
Nobody is getting a speed bump automatically, you have to call and pay the more expensive prices.
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darcilicious @ 21st Jun 08:17PM:
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said by kdwycha :

So I would imagine that means anyone on 10/2 will be 15/5 tomorrow :D Hope to wake up to the new speeds ;)
Verizon doesn't do automatic upgrades. You will have to call in or go online and renew with a new bundle.
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FiOS LIVE @ 21st Jun 08:17PM:
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After further taking a look at the new bundles thinking in consideration of my other relatives who currently have FiOS triple plays I'd recommend them to NOT upgrade.

One has 10/2, TV Essentials, and Phone for $99 and it would be $10 more per month and all they would get is faster speed which they don't need. The other has 20/5, Extreme HD, and Phone for $110 and again to upgrade would add an additional $10/mo for only faster speeds. If they wanted the Movies/HBO/Cinemax package it was a better deal to get it before with 20/5, Extreme HD, and Phone for $130 because the current promo at the same price only includes Showtime according to their site.

Unless you absolutely NEED or just want the extra 5 mbps download or more upload (which they do not) there is no value in upgrading. I suspect the same will be for most current customers. Only in D-NY is where these new bundles are worthwhile, for everyone else it's a price increase whether you need the extra speed or not. Not at all what I'd like to see from Verizon in a time where people are cutting back on their spending, bills, and overall trying to save money.
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deblin @ 21st Jun 08:50PM:
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Hmm...Just for the hell of it, I pulled up the business FiOS prices/packages and this is interesting:

»www22.verizon.com/content/busine···ices.htm

I pay $139.99/mo for 20/20 with 1 static IP.

Looks like I could shave $30/mo off, but I'd have to sacrifice 5 Mbps on the upstream. The 25/15 with 1 static is $109.99/mo.

Decisions, decisions...

I think I'll wait until August to see what happens and if there's a new symmetrical tier available then. Though I'm not sure what they'd do for a tier between 25/15 and 50/20 that wouldn't then have more upstream than the 50/20 which would be weird. Perhaps Verizon IS done with symmetrical tiers :( If so, looks like my options are a little different than the rest. That is, I can pay less and get slightly less versus what it sounds like for most others - you pay more for slightly more. Hmm.
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rebus9 @ 21st Jun 09:46PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Just to add my $0.02, the Tampa Bay packages and pricing used to be:

10/2 - $49.99
20/5 - $59.99
20/20 - $69.99
50/20 - $144.95

They are now:

15/5 - $49.99
25/15 - $69.99
50/20 - $144.95

So the 20/5 package-- and the entire $59.99 price point for that matter-- has been eliminated.

The 20/20 symmetric package has been DOWNGRADED on upstream speed (from 20, down to 15). Personally, I would take 20/20 over 25/15.

Seems to me like this is a big step backwards for VZ.
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gmsbf5104 @ 21st Jun 10:01PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by rebus9 :

Just to add my $0.02, the Tampa Bay packages and pricing used to be:

So the 20/5 package-- and the entire $59.99 price point for that matter-- has been eliminated.

Seems to me like this is a big step backwards for VZ.
I think their goal is to push more people to bundles with more services. If you look at our best plan triple play offer it is actually cheaper by $10 in Florida at least.

Now I just need to decide if I need the increased speeds at the potential loss of the 3 for 2 with $30 off for 6 months since I can only assume I will lose my current promotion if I get the new version of my bundle. Has anyone switched in the middle of their promotion period and did it continue or did you lose the promotional credit?
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rebus9 @ 21st Jun 10:10PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by gmsbf5104 :

I think their goal is to push more people to bundles with more services. If you look at our best plan triple play offer it is actually cheaper by $10 in Florida at least.
With the mandatory switch to digital TV last week, our rabbit ears couldn't get enough signal to be useable. So I went to Radio Shack, bought a giant long-distance outdoor antenna and layed it up in the attic. Now we get about 30 channels crystal clear, which is more than we need, so (speaking only for my own household) we couldn't care less about bundles. All of our TV channels are 100% free. :)

All we want is a fast internet connection at a good price.
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deblin @ 21st Jun 11:09PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by rebus9 :

The 20/20 symmetric package has been DOWNGRADED on upstream speed (from 20, down to 15). Personally, I would take 20/20 over 25/15.

Seems to me like this is a big step backwards for VZ.
Well, I think you and I are the minority, I'm afraid. People probably care more about download than upload (hell, most people without fiber have a 5-to-1 down-to-up ratio if they're lucky).

I sure hope August brings something for us symmetrical folks. Because much as I'd like to save $30/mo and move to 25/15, I just would rather have the 5 Mbps than an additional 5Mbps down I won't use and lose 5Mbps up I would use. :huh:
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dmodert66 @ 21st Jun 11:28PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I rarely upload at the 2.3mb/s So I think I'm going to switch to the 25/15 (especially, if I can get a netbook for free or $99..I've been wanting one for a while anyway, and I don't need the VZ Wireless one (I don't need to pay an extra $60 a month for that)...
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deblin @ 21st Jun 11:30PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by dmodert66 :

I rarely upload at the 2.3mb/s So I think I'm going to switch to the 25/15 (especially, if I can get a netbook for free or $99..I've been wanting one for a while anyway, and I don't need the VZ Wireless one (I don't need to pay an extra $60 a month for that)...
I often do, because I serve family photos, telecommute and my wife's a facebook addict :P
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Rickeo @ 22nd Jun 12:22AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

North of Philly here, going to call tomorrow (today actually I guess...) to see what I can get for free. Currently have the 20/5 plan in a Triple Play.

Think i'll get lucky?
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RolteC @ 22nd Jun 01:40AM:
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So then I am lucky?

Since I am in NYC, instead of the 129.99 I pay now for everything with 20/20.

I can now order 35/20 for $135/mo instead.

The $5 for 15Mbits a sec of more download I think is definitely worth me changing my bundle.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 06:47AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

sigh i really wish Verizon would give us an UPGRADE. Going from 20/20 to 25/15 is a side-grade at best. the US needs to pick it up with their stupidly slow internet speeds that are stupidly expensive. the rest of the world is laughing at us
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destroyah @ 22nd Jun 03:55AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Personally, I'm just hoping, come August that we 20/20 users will see something like 30/30, which should remain competitive, considering that prices would be rising 10 bucks up at the rate that VZ is going with the prices.

Currently here in California, 25/15 now sits at the same price point as 20/20, at $64.99 bundled, $69.99 without bundle.

So if prices go up, they better provide some incentive, since I really love their symmetrical offerings.
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The Folsom @ 22nd Jun 04:29AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by The Folsom :

said by eco :

I have a feeling the netbook is only for new subscribers, not existing ones that extend their contract.
If you're right, I'll have to find a way to do without. ;)
It's for new subscribers.

I tried to get it on with a chat associate. Alas, it's only for new subs. Oh, well...

"Parker" told me via chat I was not eligible to get the netbook since I had the "Triple Play,"...

During the chat session, "Parker" ran off and didn't come back when I asked if it was possible to extend my contract and pay $99 for the laptop...

Awww, man! :)

We'll see how it goes tomorrow. ;)
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The Folsom @ 22nd Jun 05:10AM:
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said by kes601 :

$10 more for a 5 meg increase in download speed? No thanks.
I'm leaning that way, myself.

As it stands, I'm okay with 10/2, but if I can wangle a netbook into the deal, I have no problem banging VZ into a two-year deal. Shit, I'm even willing to PAY $99 for it. I've test-driven the Compaq, and it's fast as quicksilver, and is exactly what I'm looking for. :)

I just want the comp delivered to my door. ;)
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The Folsom @ 22nd Jun 05:29AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by RolteC :

Here are the "order now" prizes!
At fist glance, I saw "prices," but then I looked again, and saw you said, "PRIZES!"

I think you are right. They are prizes. But they are prizes for new orders, GRRR!!! :)
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BKE @ 22nd Jun 06:03AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

From what I can tell in Northern VA, they raised the base rate by $2.00 to go from 10/2 to 15/5 and dropped the Double bundle discount by $8.00. This means $10.00 more for 15/5. I also noted the "Price guarantee applies to base monthly rate only" in fine print at the bottom. They can just continue to chip away at the discount for the bundle. I wouldn't do anything except my contract runs out this month and they are the only game in my area except satellite and dialup.
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frankpf3 @ 22nd Jun 07:03AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Hear on Long Island, I just upgraded my internet from 20/20 to 35/20 for the same price I did this on myVerizon.com.

Now I have to wait for the billing mess to occur :uhh:

Do existing customers who do this get a netbook? :D
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Agent Smith @ 22nd Jun 07:32AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Did my 35/20 today will probably show a speed test later on hopefully.
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 07:50AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by rebus9 :

said by gmsbf5104 :

I think their goal is to push more people to bundles with more services. If you look at our best plan triple play offer it is actually cheaper by $10 in Florida at least.
With the mandatory switch to digital TV last week, our rabbit ears couldn't get enough signal to be useable. So I went to Radio Shack, bought a giant long-distance outdoor antenna and layed it up in the attic. Now we get about 30 channels crystal clear, which is more than we need, so (speaking only for my own household) we couldn't care less about bundles. All of our TV channels are 100% free. :)

All we want is a fast internet connection at a good price.
How do you figure the price is $10 cheaper? I'm paying $94.99 for my triple play (10/2 internet & Premier TV). The new "Better" bundle is $119.99 (25/15 internet & Extreme HD TV). That's $25 more!
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gmsbf5104 @ 22nd Jun 08:16AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Gary A :

How do you figure the price is $10 cheaper? I'm paying $94.99 for my triple play (10/2 internet & Premier TV). The new "Better" bundle is $119.99 (25/15 internet & Extreme HD TV). That's $25 more!
Like I said it is on the best bundle that it is cheaper. My current triple play is 139.99 for 20/5, phone and extreme HD with movies. The new price is 129.99.
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 08:26AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Just got off the phone with a rep. I currently pay $160 per month for 20/5 internet. phone and extreme HD TV plus movies. This price also includes 2 HD STBs and free HD MR DVR.

To upgrade to 25/15 the rep told me I would lose my free HD DVR promotion and my total would come to $188 per month. I would go from 20/5 to 25/15, gain the sports channels and would gain the ability to uses Verizon's wireless hotspot locations.

I am going to stick with what I have now. $28 is too much for a 5MBs upgrade. I don't watch the sports channels, so that does not matter to me. I was mostly interest in the speed upgrade.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 08:59AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

called this morning (NYC)

25/15 for $99.99

35/20 for $109.99

i'll keep my 20/20 for $99.99, don't need the extra 5 download and less 5 upload

so weird these teirs

i hope they come out soon with those new channels
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 09:01AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Waiting for someone who's been upgraded to post up a speed test result! How long does it usually take for the upgrade order to go through (i.e. when can we expect some speed test results?) :)
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watice @ 22nd Jun 09:01AM:
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said by Grover :

called this morning (NYC)

25/15 for $99.99

35/20 for $109.99

i'll keep my 20/20 for $99.99, don't need the extra 5 download and less 5 upload

so weird these teirs

i hope they come out soon with those new channels
woah. if that's the case, i'd rather get a 20/20 tier too.
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 09:10AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by watice :

woah. if that's the case, i'd rather get a 20/20 tier too.
Yeah, to be honest, these upgrades are rather ho-hum (or just plain an downgrade or at least a "side"grade) compared to what's been done in the past (15/15 to 20/20, 15/2 to 20/5, etc).
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v35_pilot @ 22nd Jun 09:15AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

As a FiOS Internet and wireless-only customer living in upstate NY I just called about going from 20/5 to 25/15.

The rep, after putting me on hold for about 5 minutes to presumably ask mgmt about this new package, told me the upgrade was not available to me unless I had phone service bundled at a minimum.
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donjuan2002 @ 22nd Jun 09:28AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Do not fool your self people, Verizon is going for higher prices douple play people the bill will go up at least $20, front 69.99 to 89.99 20/5 to 25/15, and the tv is going up $10, the people in this days want a bargain and not raise the prices, I know verizon will lose lots of custmers because of this... Any cable company prices are lower that verizon a least for the first year..
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 09:29AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Agent Smith :

Did my 35/20 today will probably show a speed test later on hopefully.
No conformation when the changes will take place...
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Agent Smith @ 22nd Jun 09:32AM:
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I know takes up to a day.
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glinc @ 22nd Jun 09:34AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

My current $69.99 for 20/20 and the new 25/15 for $69.99 don't think i'll switch lol.

Lets see if the speed upgrades are for real coming in august.
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rebus9 @ 22nd Jun 09:56AM:
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said by donjuan2002 :

the people in this days want a bargain and not raise the prices, I know verizon will lose lots of custmers because of this.
Don't bet on it. Most FIOS users would tell you they won't give up their smokin' internet connection until you pry the router from their cold dead hands.

And VZ knows this.
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 10:04AM:
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said by glinc :

My current $69.99 for 20/20 and the new 25/15 for $69.99 don't think i'll switch lol.

Lets see if the speed upgrades are for real coming in august.
What's going to happen in August?
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MicroChip @ 22nd Jun 10:06AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I just called. I currently have 10/2 in the triple play, which has a base price of $95 (yet my bill is almost $180 with boxes, dvr, and the movie package).

I called to ask to upgrade from 10/2 to 15/5, they said 15/5 didn't include the extremehd package like the 10/2 and I'd lose channels.

The 25/15 does include extremehd so I could've upgraded my package but from a base fee of $95 to $119.

I said no thanks...

MC
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:12AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Hev deblin Just changed my Business package from 20/20 to 25/15 to save $30 a month

Looks like the "fluff" is there :)
Getting much more upload then the 15mb Im supposed too :)


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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:13AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Sounds like most people are taking that stance. "Thanks but no thanks". :huh:
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:15AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

More Fluff.. I love it

New 25/15 package :)




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Hispanic @ 22nd Jun 10:17AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Did you guys call to upgrade? I did it online yesterday and it says it won't be activated until Tuesday. Anyway to speed this process up. lol
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:19AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Hispanic :

Did you guys call to upgrade? I did it online yesterday and it says it won't be activated until Tuesday. Anyway to speed this process up. lol
He's on a business package...perhaps they get priority over residential upgrades? I'm trying to remember how long it took when I went 15/2 to 15/15 and 15/15 to 20/20. It was on the order of a couple hours, iirc.
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:20AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by DVRaholic :

More Fluff.. I love it

New 25/15 package :)
Can you test here:

»msiad.visualware.com/myspeed/

And post the results?
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glinc @ 22nd Jun 10:21AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Acerone :

said by glinc :

My current $69.99 for 20/20 and the new 25/15 for $69.99 don't think i'll switch lol.

Lets see if the speed upgrades are for real coming in august.
What's going to happen in August?
apparently there's a 25/25 coming out in august
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:24AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by glinc :

said by Acerone :

said by glinc :

My current $69.99 for 20/20 and the new 25/15 for $69.99 don't think i'll switch lol.

Lets see if the speed upgrades are for real coming in august.
What's going to happen in August?
apparently there's a 25/25 coming out in august
So it begs the question...what happens to people who sign a 2 year deal for 25/15 + fluff (which appears to speed test at 26/22)? Can they then sign ANOTHER contract to get the "guaranteed" 25/25? It seems odd that they'd offer a 25/15 and a 25/25, unless in August 25/25 is replacing the 25/15/fluff package...
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:25AM:
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Here you go Deblin

Speed test statistics
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Download speed: 26046720 bps
Upload speed: 19292912 bps
Quality of service: 99 %
Download test type: socket
Upload test type: socket
Maximum download pause: 5 ms
Average download pause: 1 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 15 ms
Average round trip time to server: 16 ms
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rmckofke @ 22nd Jun 10:26AM:
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so if I understand this correctly, if I call to change my 20/5 to a 20/15 it will be thr equivalent of me calling to renew my contract, thus I would lose my promotional pricing of the FREE MR DVR? I don;t need to renew until November so I think I'll stick with my current plan...as it is I was looking to keep the DVR and maybe drop a STB for a digital adapter to keep the costs at a minimum...maybe even drop the $30 movies to just the half-price (non HBO and Cinemax) package.
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:27AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

There is no more choice for 20/20 on Business packages
So I assume 25/25 in august will be the new 20/20

I will just do another contract in August if i want the 25/25, maybe that will have fluff too :)
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:29AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Thanks! What about if you pick a different mirror here:

»myspeed.visualware.com/

E.g. the Connecticut mirror?

Thanks for doing the testing! It's really helping me decide whether I want to do the same thing and get this mini-upgrade (if the upstream stays >= 20) for $30 cheaper!
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blohner @ 22nd Jun 10:31AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by v35_pilot :

As a FiOS Internet and wireless-only customer living in upstate NY I just called about going from 20/5 to 25/15.

The rep, after putting me on hold for about 5 minutes to presumably ask mgmt about this new package, told me the upgrade was not available to me unless I had phone service bundled at a minimum.
Are you on One-Bill with Wireless+Internet to get your 20/5 with a discount at the moment?

They basically told me yesterday that One-Bill discounts no longer exist for this scenario... - I could have signed up for 20/5 for $45. Now it's $69.99 for 25/15 or $49.99 for 15/5. Not a good deal at all....
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:32AM:
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Even Better :)

Speed test statistics
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Download speed: 25974544 bps
Upload speed: 21066128 bps
Quality of service: 99 %
Download test type: socket
Upload test type: socket
Maximum TCP delay: 21 ms
Average download pause: 1 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 8 ms
Average round trip time to server: 9 ms
Estimated download bandwidth: 26400000bps
Route concurrency: 1.0163797
Download TCP forced idle: 0 %
Maximum route speed: 65535000bps
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 10:33AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by DVRaholic :

More Fluff.. I love it

New 25/15 package :)




Did you call or make the changes online?
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:34AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Cool thanks. So it *looks* like 25/15 is capable of doing 26/22, nominally.

It will be interesting to see how often you get the full 22 and whether it drops down to the advertised rate at certain times of day/etc.

Well, as money's tight at the moment and given your speed test results, I'm definitely encouraged. Still debating whether to move to this "fluff" package or not. :) $30/mo is quite a bit to save...hmm...
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:34AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I was on a Business 20/20 account, Changed to new 25/15 account so I had to call in
Business accounts get upgraded within 1 hour of placing the order
Residential takes 24 hours
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glinc @ 22nd Jun 10:35AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

deblin, if that new speed tier actually rolls out in august and there's a bundle for it you can call anytime to upgrade.

what sucks is that on my 20/20 i would get 50, 40 or even 30 download before this new speeds.....now i score 19ish lol and it also sucks that 35/20 is only available in triple bundle but since my area fios tv isn't rolled out yet i can't get that speed at a stand alone price.
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:36AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Interesting...wonder how you swung that? :P

I'm calling the business folks up and going to ask straight up what this "fluff" is. :)
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JeepMatt @ 22nd Jun 10:37AM:
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I have a number of conference calls today at work - i REALLY wish I could get the Live Chat popup to come up -

Thanks for those that have given me "tips" - but I never have that option!
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:51AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

What number did you call for your business upgrade?

As usual, I can't get ahold of anyone. Sigh. I'm only on transfer #2, so I have about 2 or 3 more transfers before I get someone.

*edit* Yay, transfer #3. :uhh:
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:54AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Business Fios
877-496-9411

I was transferred twice.. but well worth it :)
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 10:55AM:
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Hmm that must be a NY number. Anyway, after transfer #3 I finally got someone. Not bad, usually it's at LEAST 4 xfers ;)
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 10:56AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Updated ... See page 19 of the thread
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 10:58AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I LOVE my FLUFF :)

New 25/15 package


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Smith6612 @ 22nd Jun 10:59AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

What's up with the upload? Did they forget to change that to 15Mbps? :D. Nice speeds anyways.
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 11:00AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Thats the FLUFF at work :)
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 11:00AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by deblin :

Hmm that must be a NY number. Anyway, after transfer #3 I finally got someone. Not bad, usually it's at LEAST 4 xfers ;)
Strike that! I forgot, after xfer #3, I get someone in the VA/MD/DC area and they have to transfer me to the PA/DE group! Doh!

Although, I DID get a new phone number to try for PA/DE business FIOS:

570-387-3894

I'll definitely give that one a shot next time. Might save me a few minutes/transfers.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 11:00AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by DVRaholic :

I LOVE my FLUFF :)

New 25/15 package


I think the new 25/15 and 35/20 are really soft launches for what is to be 25/25 and 35/35 in August. Makes sense that Verizon does it this way to gauge the network effects of going symmetric in August.
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lcjawhit @ 22nd Jun 11:04AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I went to the 25/15 and look at my upload.


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deblin @ 22nd Jun 11:05AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by guppy_fish :

I think the new 25/15 and 35/20 are really soft launches for what is to be 25/25 and 35/35 in August. Makes sense that Verizon does it this way to gauge the network effects of going symmetric in August.
Hmm yeah, that makes sense. That way they can see which areas need to go BPON to GPON, too, huh?

So the package might be more aptly referred to as:

25/15-25

At least until August... :)
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 11:07AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

OK, some more info on what I was able to do and actually save some money. I am in Long Island, NY so I don't know if everyone else will get the same results. I currently have a FiOS Triple Freedom Plan for $160 per month (includes 2 HD STBs and taxes). My HD MR DVR is free for one yr.

Logged in to my account online. Went to bundles and selected what I wanted. I was given 3 bundle packages with different internet speed and tv options. I selected the 35/20 internet plus extreme HD TV plus movies. My total came to $90 per month. I lose my free HD DVR.

So, my total is $90 + 19.99 + 11.98 + taxes. I am saving about $20 per month and am getting a higher speed internet plan.

2 online chat reps and a phone rep confirmed that this is what my new monthly bill will be. They weren't able to see my plan, but stated that if this is what I was offered and I was able to checkout with and get an order number, then I was good to go. My bundle is still Triple Freedom Plan.
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jefe @ 22nd Jun 11:11AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I have the Triple Freedom Plan on LI too. I went to My Verizon and still see 25/15 and 35/20 for the same price....$12/mo more than I'm paying now. Did you see the same thing on your account...the two different speed tiers at the same price?

But what's not clear to me is if I upgrade to either of those packages, what happens to my 1 year contract and 2 year price guarantee? I've only had service for 2 months. Maybe I'll try an online chat and see if that sheds any light.
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JeepMatt @ 22nd Jun 11:12AM:
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Seriously -

How are you guys getting an online chat to pop up??
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v4npro @ 22nd Jun 11:16AM:
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I guess its worth calling and find out what prices will be on our current bundle.
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 11:16AM:
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said by jefe :

I have the Triple Freedom Plan on LI too. I went to My Verizon and still see 25/15 and 35/20 for the same price....$12/mo more than I'm paying now. Did you see the same thing on your account...the two different speed tiers at the same price?

But what's not clear to me is if I upgrade to either of those packages, what happens to my 1 year contract and 2 year price guarantee? I've only had service for 2 months. Maybe I'll try an online chat and see if that sheds any light.
Initially, I saw the more expensive plans. That is where I was fooled too. You have to selected a plan and continue. Once I did that, the systems came back with 3 completely different plans and prices. I was give a $55, $65 and $90 plan. The $90 plan, with 35/20 is what i chose.

The new plan, bundles phone for free, internet for $64.99, Extreme HD TV for $57.99 and HBO, Cinemax & Movies for $35.00. It is then discounted 67.98 and total $90.00 per month.

I lost my free DVR, but it still comes out about $20 cheaper per month for me.
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 11:17AM:
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5 minutes after the call I now have

25/15

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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 11:20AM:
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If you are a residential customer it will take "up to" 24hrs to be changed to new 25/15 package

Looks to me like you are still on old 20/20 package, I was seeing average 19 down and 18 up on old 20/20 package
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jefe @ 22nd Jun 11:23AM:
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said by JeepMatt :

Seriously -

How are you guys getting an online chat to pop up??
I went to Contact Us > Internet > Phone and there was a link "Need an answer fast?" I'm chatting with Michael now.
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JeepMatt @ 22nd Jun 11:23AM:
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FINALLY! I have success (with Christine)!

Thanks....
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 11:23AM:
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Wow, knock on wood, but I might be able to consolidate things to business!

- Single line x-pack
- 25/15 w/ 1 static IP ($87.99 instead of $109.99)
- unlimited voice (don't have this now)
- TV (same as my current package - premier)
* 1 standard set top box
* 2 cable cards

- Credit $38.07 for first 12 months

- Price for single line triple play: $164.04 before savings
- $125.97 + taxes/surcharges for first 12 months

- Savings: ~90 after 12 months and $140/mo savings for first 12 months

Holy crap!
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 11:24AM:
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said by JeepMatt :

Seriously -

How are you guys getting an online chat to pop up??
When selecting my bundles, I was prompted with a pop up.
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Hispanic @ 22nd Jun 11:24AM:
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Yea, I placed the order online for the new double play package to upgrade my 20/5 to 25/15. I got an order confirmation and a tentative install date of Tuesday. I chatted with a verizon rep earlier and he mentioned that the order won't be worked until tomorrow. I wish it was sooner though.
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Vitanic @ 22nd Jun 11:25AM:
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Well I'm on a 10/2 plan which is my sole Verizon service. I called this morning about the 10/5 plan.

She had 25/15 & 50/20 plans, but the 15/5 plan was only for "Upstate New York". She told me I was also on a month-to-month (though I'm paying the 1-year agreement price of $47.99 without phone service).

While hawking FiosTV, she told me that MSNBC was offered on the sports package - which is odd because of a) its not sports & b) the exclusivity agreement between (ms)nbc & cablevision.

Hung-up with my existing 10/2 service.

»www22.verizon.com/Residential/Fi···lans.htm doesn't even show 10/2.
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jefe @ 22nd Jun 11:25AM:
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What means "install date?" Isn't that upgrade simply a matter of reprovisioning your ONT?
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Hispanic @ 22nd Jun 11:27AM:
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I asked the same question.. The rep said they won't do the program update until tomorrow. There must be some fios tech that can help me. lol
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 11:28AM:
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said by jefe :

What means "install date?" Isn't that upgrade simply a matter of reprovisioning your ONT?
Usually, yes. But I was given a Tuesday 06/23 install date too. I think that is when they actually process the order & reprovision.
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 11:29AM:
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Looks like they are Fluffing up the Fluff

Even Better upload speeds now on my New 25/15 package :)


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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:03PM:
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said by deblin :

Wow, knock on wood, but I might be able to consolidate things to business!

- Single line x-pack
- 25/15 w/ 1 static IP ($87.99 instead of $109.99)
- unlimited voice (don't have this now)
- TV (same as my current package - premier)
* 1 standard set top box
* 2 cable cards

- Credit $38.07 for first 12 months

- Price for single line triple play: $164.04 before savings
- $125.97 + taxes/surcharges for first 12 months

- Savings: ~90 after 12 months and $140/mo savings for first 12 months

Holy crap!
Sounds great Deblin! Glad it works out for you!
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 11:32AM:
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said by gmsbf5104 :

said by Gary A :

How do you figure the price is $10 cheaper? I'm paying $94.99 for my triple play (10/2 internet & Premier TV). The new "Better" bundle is $119.99 (25/15 internet & Extreme HD TV). That's $25 more!
Like I said it is on the best bundle that it is cheaper. My current triple play is 139.99 for 20/5, phone and extreme HD with movies. The new price is 129.99.
OK, thanks. Now I see which figures you are comparing. It looks like the biggest price jump was for those of us already on a lower tier. VZ must be trying to "level" the various tier prices.
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 11:37AM:
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said by MicroChip :

I just called. I currently have 10/2 in the triple play, which has a base price of $95 (yet my bill is almost $180 with boxes, dvr, and the movie package).

I called to ask to upgrade from 10/2 to 15/5, they said 15/5 didn't include the extremehd package like the 10/2 and I'd lose channels.

The 25/15 does include extremehd so I could've upgraded my package but from a base fee of $95 to $119.

I said no thanks...

MC
Your comparison results came out exactly the same as mine - $95 to $119. I see no advantage to switch now. When my 2-yr agreement runs out in Nov., I may have no choice.
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 11:41AM:
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OK have to stop playing now, time to start actually working :)

Hope this fluff is permenant and not some type of shorterm test by Verizon (keeping fingers crossed)
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 11:44AM:
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said by guppy_fish :

I called in to the Elite group to get some straight answers for current triple play subscribers looking to upgrade. This is a small group that goes after people that sign up and then cancel a triple play install, they have the ability to give extra discounts and they know the all the options and have the authority to give out any deals possible. These reps are VERY knowledgeable ... much better that the standard reps you get calling the FIOS 800 number.

SO the important info:

Any discounts one is getting, being pending gift cards, $30 for 6 months, $ 5 dollar off per month or DVR's for 12 months free will all be forfeited on doing a change to a new package. The 30 dollar movie package would be "grandfathered" in though vs. the new price of 35.00

While I have no issues with spending 10 dollars more to go from 109.99 -> 119.99 to get the new 25/15 fluff tier which really looks like a way to get 25/25 bundled, its not worth giving up hundreds in incentives I was given to go triple play last month. The representative suggest I wait till all the freebies have run there course and then make a change at that time.

So if you have ANY deal beyond what the package your upgrading offers, keep in mind those incentives will be lost if you make a package change.
Thanks for posting this info, guppy_fish. :) It really confirmed what I had already concluded - these new bundle prices are not a good deal for us in Florida. :huh: It DOES seem to be a good deal for a lot of the NY users.
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jmn1207 @ 22nd Jun 11:57AM:
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I've already mentioned in a previous post that my greatest concern is having the fastest upload speeds available for any price below $200. It seems that my 50/20 connections is no longer the fastest upload tier, provided the uploads seen with the 25/15 tier are sustainable.

Would anyone be willing to upload a huge file and measure the results? It's sad if I have to drop my 50/20 service so to a lower tier, so I can get faster performance. :huh:

This fluff is odd. If it's permanent, it would be the first where a company advertised a significantly lower speed than was being offered.
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 12:00PM:
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said by jmn1207 :

This fluff is odd. If it's permanent, it would be the first where a company advertised a significantly lower speed than was being offered.
Agreed, but the theory that it's a temporary 25/25 until August when it's made official makes sense. Way earlier in the thread, 25/25 was mentioned and it just doesn't make sense to have a 25/15 and a 25/25 coexist.
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lelouch @ 22nd Jun 12:07PM:
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reading the replies i gather that most people are on the 2*/1*(2*) package

we just got fios installed a week ago and i'm not sure how much we pay but its the minimum triple package so we have 10/2 connection.

assuming the upgrade is $10 would it be worth it? probably not right? which makes me wonder what the price difference would be between what bundle we have *now* (if there is even a difference besides internet speed) compared to the good/better bundles.

guess i'll ask my sis when she comes home
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 12:10PM:
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said by vzguy1 :

Sounds great Deblin! Glad it works out for you!
Thanks! I'm actually still on hold...the business rep I'm working with has been trying to get through to the residential side to initiate the service transfer from residential to business for about 30 minutes now :(
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 12:11PM:
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Hey vzguy1 Thanks for mentioning the Fluff in previous posts
Is this fluff on 25/15 going to become the new 25/25 package in august ?? Also will we see any Fluff on Residential 35/20 package ??
Just wondering if you know something you would like to share with us :)
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Nezmo @ 22nd Jun 12:12PM:
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:)

Update was effective almost immediately.

I had 20/20 before but testing just this morning showed I was not getting above 10 up so I wonder. No problems getting the 15 up on this new option.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:16PM:
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Ok, got off the phone with the billing rep. and they said 25/15 is a boost to 20/5 and no price increase for me. I asked her 3 times to make sure and she said no price increase, it will be the same price as 20/5 on our bundle ($40.99).
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 12:14PM:
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said by DVRaholic :

If you are a residential customer it will take "up to" 24hrs to be changed to new 25/15 package

Looks to me like you are still on old 20/20 package, I was seeing average 19 down and 18 up on old 20/20 package
No, I was the 20/5 customer and it seems to be going up as we speak.


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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 12:17PM:
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Ack. So I need to wait until August or something or I lose my $150 gift card. Lame. You'd think if they wouldn't let customers in on the new freebie promos, they'd at least let them keep the original ones -- considering I'd be paying $10 more, going for 20/5 triple play to 25/15.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:23PM:
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If you only changed the internet speed from 20/20 to 35/20 for free (I'm in Brooklyn) , does that make you lose any promotional discounts on the DVR or anything else? Or does that only happen if you upgrade the TV package?
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Hispanic @ 22nd Jun 12:21PM:
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It is fair to say that all residential customers won't have the speed upgrade enabled until at least tomorrow?
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aurigus @ 22nd Jun 12:22PM:
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Just wanted to post my experience. Called the generic 1-888-GET-FIOS number. Currently have the 'Double Play' Internet (15/5) / Extreme HD bundle for 79.99. Upgrading to 25/15 would be $20 extra a month for me.

I said no thanks.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 12:23PM:
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Updated ... See page 19 of the thread
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 12:25PM:
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Updated ... See page 19 of the thread
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DJMADfx @ 22nd Jun 12:27PM:
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Anyone have a speed test for 35/20? I would love to see the "fluff" on that. I would imagine in theory that it would be more around 35/27.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:30PM:
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My rep said NO price increase on triple play bundle, from 20/5 to 25/15.. again I asked them 3 times about this to make sure. So hopefully their correct or I will have to deal with their BS next month when I see the bill.
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 12:31PM:
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said by guppy_fishAnyone who is waiting for the 150 Visa card or any other promo's will lose eligibility ... please keep this in mind as the 1-800 FIOS reps may not inform you of this.

Any speed upgrade is a package change, there is no internet only upgrade for dual or Triple play customers. So you will lose any deals the old package has ( but your gaining what ever the new package offers )

And my understanding is we also do NOT get the new promos, however, since we're not new customers.. So, no $150 visa card, no netbook.. Right?
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DVRaholic @ 22nd Jun 12:31PM:
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I upgraded online yesterday to 35/20 for my residential account. As others have stated before activation is not until tomorrow so we will see then :)

Im hoping to see 35/30 That would be fantastic !!
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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:32PM:
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Well thats great, now I wish I hadn't done that online. I must have missed the part where it said I would lose all promotions. I had free DVR and free movie package for 2 months, and some other free boxes and now thats all gone. What could I gain from the new package? I had Extreme HD with all the movie channels, 20/20, and local phone. I didn't realize upgrading the internet would put me in the new package.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:36PM:
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said by DVRaholic :

I upgraded online yesterday to 35/20 for my residential account. As others have stated before activation is not until tomorrow so we will see then :)

Im hoping to see 35/30 That would be fantastic !!
Should be somewhere between 35/30 and 35/35
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JeepMatt @ 22nd Jun 12:36PM:
Took The Bait

Okay, I called in and took the bait..

I previously was at the $139.99 bundle, which included 20/5 internet, phone, and ALL TV channels (including the premiums).

To keep with what I was at...here is what I had to do:

Choose the new $119.99 bundle, which includes phone, 25/15 internet and Extreme HD (no premiums).

Then, add the all access movie package which is now $35 / month, so my total will now be $154.99 month ($15 increase).

HOWEVER, I'll be getting the access movie package FREE for 3 months, so that right there is a $105 savings - which offsets the $15 increase for 7 months. :p

Order # is already on my verizon.com account - and set for completion today. I'll verify the speeds when I get home tonight.
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jadebangle @ 22nd Jun 12:36PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

said by vpro :

Ok, got off the phone with the billing rep. and they said 25/15 is a boost to 20/5 and no price increase for me. I asked her 3 times to make sure and she said no price increase, it will be the same price as 20/5 on our bundle ($40.99).
There is no free upgrades from 20/5 -> 25-15 ... call back or your going to be surprised by a 10.00 increase when you get the bill
25/15 is not a boost from 20/5
this user is an exception, not everyone is going to get this special pricing due to an uninformed customer rep. he got lucky or should say they made a little mistake :D
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steve6966 @ 22nd Jun 12:38PM:
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Do these prices seem right? Is it cheaper?
Click for full size
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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:41PM:
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said by DVRaholic :

Hey vzguy1 Thanks for mentioning the Fluff in previous posts
Is this fluff on 25/15 going to become the new 25/25 package in august ?? Also will we see any Fluff on Residential 35/20 package ??
Just wondering if you know something you would like to share with us :)
Essentially yes. And you are welcome. I don't post very often but when I do post I make sure I am accurate and not just starting rumors.
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devicemanage @ 22nd Jun 12:39PM:
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I just went online, took the triple play for 119.99 with 25/15, added hbo for 15.99 and got the compaq netbook promotion.

It will take 24 hours to become effective and come with an email with instructions when active. All you have to do is log into your account and upgrade, but I opened a chat session and was guided from start to finish - better than calling in if you ask me.
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jmn1207 @ 22nd Jun 12:41PM:
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said by deblin :

said by jmn1207 :

This fluff is odd. If it's permanent, it would be the first where a company advertised a significantly lower speed than was being offered.
Agreed, but the theory that it's a temporary 25/25 until August when it's made official makes sense. Way earlier in the thread, 25/25 was mentioned and it just doesn't make sense to have a 25/15 and a 25/25 coexist.
They have/had a 20/5 and 20/20 service at the same time, it makes as much sense to have 25/15 and 25/25 I suppose. What is more difficult for me to digest is the possibility of having 25/25 tier officially sanctioned in a couple of months after spending a considerable amount of resources for a 25/15 tier and the 35/20 tier in the NY area.

If these are really 25/25 and 35/35 (or soon will be), why even bother with the 25/15 and 35/20 plans at all?
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deblin @ 22nd Jun 12:44PM:
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said by jmn1207 :

If these are really 25/25 and 35/35 (or soon will be), why even bother with the 25/15 and 35/20 plans at all?
As previously suggested, it could be to test the waters before making them official packages. They can still back out and then re-provision people without the fluff if it looks like they won't be able to (or won't want to) keep the 25/25 or whatever symmetrical tiers there are (if any).

I'm starting to wonder about this price for the 25/15 business with voice and TV. Even at the full bundled price (after 12 months) of ~$165/mo, that's only like $50 more than an equivalent residential account. So only a $50 premium for residental to business *and* a static IP...hmm
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anon @ 22nd Jun 12:45PM:
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I got off the phone with another rep to make sure and yes, no price increase on my bundle from 20/5 to 25/15. :P
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ravensfan55 @ 22nd Jun 12:47PM:
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So by upgrading we lose all our incentives, that makes it like a $25 price hike.
No thanks.
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bigpapae35 @ 22nd Jun 12:53PM:
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They wanted to charge me an extra $5 per month from 20/5 to 25/15.

I have the $94.99 triple play bundle, which they want to make $99.99 for the faster speed.

Is it worth it?
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v35_pilot @ 22nd Jun 12:54PM:
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said by Acerone :

No, I was the 20/5 customer and it seems to be going up as we speak.
Not me. My 20/5 is actually 20/2 at the moment -



Speed confirmed by several different Speedtest servers and Vz's own speed test website. Vz rep confirmed I am provisioned all the way at 20/5 so second level support is investigating.
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 01:01PM:
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said by steve6966 :

Do these prices seem right? Is it cheaper?
This is what I got and it came out cheaper for me.
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jefe @ 22nd Jun 01:05PM:
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said by bigpapae35 :

They wanted to charge me an extra $5 per month from 20/5 to 25/15.

I have the $94.99 triple play bundle, which they want to make $99.99 for the faster speed.

Is it worth it?
Who knows? But I just did the same thing. For $5/mo I like the idea of the higher upstream.

I went to the Bundles site and selected the bundle with the same features I already had but the 25/15 plan instead of 20/5 that I have now.

It was a little painful getting through the process because all the servers are super overloaded, but I completed eventually. In completing the order I agree to extend my contract for 1 year, and I was told that my order would be placed tomorrow.

I'm waiting to see a speedtest show me my order has actually been processed.
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Piranhaz @ 22nd Jun 01:06PM:
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Wow, a lot of east coasters here giving feedback. :)

Being in Washington state, I wonder if I should jump on the new upgrade pricing and speeds now, looks like it'll be $15/mo more with just 25/15 internet+ExtremeTV, or wait until Frontier takes over and see what I end up with then? Will it be faster tiers, slower tiers, caps, etc. etc.. ugh..

Decisions decisions...
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v4npro @ 22nd Jun 01:09PM:
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Well my is a boost to 25/15 is what the both rep's told me. No price increase on triple play bundle so thats a good deal for me for sure.
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steve6966 @ 22nd Jun 01:10PM:
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cool thx.. Putting the order in.. Getting the netbook too.. :)
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 01:11PM:
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said by Piranhaz :

or wait until Frontier takes over and see what I end up with then? Will it be faster tiers, slower tiers, caps, etc. etc.. ugh..
Nobody knows what Frontier will do. You'll need to make a decision based solely on what's available now from Vz.
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 01:12PM:
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those that made the switch are you wired with those great speeds or wireless?
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 01:16PM:
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Ok, this is weird. Just got off the phone with a rep who told me that I would lose my $150 gift card but I WAS eligible for the netbook for "free", but there'd be $50 for shipping. That's the first time I've heard of that situation.

I'm not sure all the reps are on board as to what's going on here. I'm a little nervous to pull any triggers before they all get this sorted out.

Has anyone else been told they could get the free netbook with "$50 shipping"?
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 01:16PM:
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said by Acerone :

those that made the switch are you wired with those great speeds or wireless?
To verify your speed (against the tier you're signed up for) you should always test with a wired connection. Any speed loss due to wireless has nothing to do with how you're provisioned.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 01:23PM:
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So today I called and had the switch done.

I'm now posting 54 down 30 up!!! LOL

I was only supposed to be 25/15 I have no idea how this happened...but it's pretty wild.
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 01:25PM:
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said by darcilicious :

said by Acerone :

those that made the switch are you wired with those great speeds or wireless?
To verify your speed (against the tier you're signed up for) you should always test with a wired connection. Any speed loss due to wireless has nothing to do with how you're provisioned.
I C. Thanks.. So wired I'm now 25/15... But not anything like the guys with 25/24 something...

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mangoSNJ @ 22nd Jun 01:28PM:
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Look at this:

I was 20/5

Called today, got rebundled for 25/15


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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 01:28PM:
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said by happyinSJ :

So today I called and had the switch done.

I'm now posting 54 down 30 up!!! LOL

I was only supposed to be 25/15 I have no idea how this happened...but it's pretty wild.
And me, who has been on the 50/20 tier for a year now, I have seen my speeds drop 5% since late last week. Now I can't hit 50mbs if my life depended on it.. when I used to hit 51.5mbs consistently.

Now my upload and download speeds are anything but consistent.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 01:36PM:
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said by Acerone :

I C. Thanks.. So wired I'm now 25/15... But not anything like the guys with 25/24 something...

run this if you haven't already done so and make sure you reboot the PC before re-testing

»www.verizon.net/central/vzc.port···ptimized
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cmthru @ 22nd Jun 01:46PM:
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My contract was about to expire so I decided to call Billing. I went from the old Premier to Extreme HD (including the movie package-grandfathered), upped 10/2 to 25/15 (15/5 apparently not available in my area of MD), continued with the same phone service for only $2 more a month. I had the CSR read the entire bundle back to me just to confirm and all was correct. Even she was surprised that it was just a $2 change. When I asked if I should expect billing fights she said that they've recently had a major upgrade in the software and there should not be any problems. I'm holding my breath on that.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 01:54PM:
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Still waiting for my speed increase.. It's been little over 2hours... probably takes up to 24hrs huh.
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kingspud @ 22nd Jun 01:48PM:
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Just Upgraded from 20/20 to 35/20 for the same price. It was a wash. Did it online. No hassles. Will do a speed test once it takes effect.
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mangoSNJ @ 22nd Jun 02:08PM:
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Mine only took about 2 hours.
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 02:11PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

said by Acerone :

I C. Thanks.. So wired I'm now 25/15... But not anything like the guys with 25/24 something...

run this if you haven't already done so and make sure you reboot the PC before re-testing

»www.verizon.net/central/vzc.port···ptimized
Thanks just gave it a try...
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Phil @ 22nd Jun 02:20PM:
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Looks like they put you on the 50/20 plan which you'll probably be billed for.
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hgratt @ 22nd Jun 02:22PM:
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said by happyinSJ :

So today I called and had the switch done.

I'm now posting 54 down 30 up!!! LOL

I was only supposed to be 25/15 I have no idea how this happened...but it's pretty wild.
I also went for the switch from 20/5 to 25/15 (cost was an extra $10/month). However, all my speed tests indicate 25/25. Not sure what's going on but I hope it sticks.

Harvey
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HenryFarpolo @ 22nd Jun 02:29PM:
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Quick change to the new speeds. Great price...Great results!!

Download Speed: 26006 kbps (3250.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 23357 kbps (2919.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
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ieko @ 22nd Jun 02:37PM:
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I went from 20/5 to 25/15 but I'm getting 25/20, I really don't mind! lol
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 02:43PM:
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So, for those of you that placed the order online and had an existing bundle and went to a new one... Were you even offered the netbook or camera during the online order process??
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 02:46PM:
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said by tcp1 :

So, for those of you that placed the order online and had an existing bundle and went to a new one... Were you even offered the netbook or camera during the online order process??
I didn't even see that when I went through my upgrade online. However, I just checked the order confirmation I printed and it states I chose the $99 netbook promotional item.
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rmckofke @ 22nd Jun 02:49PM:
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the netbook is for new customers only, right? not existing?
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anon @ 22nd Jun 03:02PM:
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Damn, I called at 11:30am,, wish my speeds would change already.
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 02:51PM:
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Well, ok, now I'm completely confused. Here's a chat I just had online. Not sure how reliable this is.
Click for full size
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 02:55PM:
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said by rmckofke :

the netbook is for new customers only, right? not existing?
I am an existing customer. My order confirmation stated that I chose the $99 netbook. I didn't have an option to even choose.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 02:56PM:
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Updated ... See page 19 of the thread
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 02:59PM:
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That rep is wrong. I confirmed via 3 chats and 2 call reps that you lose any promotional items you previously had. For example, I had a free HD MR DVR for 1 year. I lost that when I upgraded, but my overall plan came out cheaper.
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 02:59PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

The Elite group says otherwise, I'd trust them over the chat reps any day

Change the package, you lose the incentives, what ever they maybe.

Even with the above in writing, you will have to deal with "billing" if the above chat rep is just mis-informed and good luck getting the 150 Visa card or any other promo's re-instated
I don't argue with that; I just wonder if the information is changing as it comes out to the reps, even.

I do recall that the only stipulation on the $150 cash back was maintaining a triple bundle, not that particular triple bundle. I wish I could find my order with the specific text.
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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 03:00PM:
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What is the best number to call for tech support? I need to see if they can do anything about my 50/20 tier since they screwed up my speeds last week.
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rmckofke @ 22nd Jun 03:01PM:
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said by dharel1705 :

That rep is wrong. I confirmed via 3 chats and 2 call reps that you lose any promotional items you previously had. For example, I had a free HD MR DVR for 1 year. I lost that when I upgraded, but my overall plan came out cheaper.
I love my free DVR too much to lose it to the compaq netbook - my contract is up in November so I think I'll enjoy my 20/5 for the next few months
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 03:11PM:
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said by rmckofke :

said by dharel1705 :

That rep is wrong. I confirmed via 3 chats and 2 call reps that you lose any promotional items you previously had. For example, I had a free HD MR DVR for 1 year. I lost that when I upgraded, but my overall plan came out cheaper.
I love my free DVR too much to lose it to the compaq netbook - my contract is up in November so I think I'll enjoy my 20/5 for the next few months
You know that you don't actually lose the DVR. You just have to pay for it. You would lose the free promo after a year anyway.
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dealing3000 @ 22nd Jun 03:11PM:
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I also called in and was told that I would lose my 3 for 2 promotion ($30 off each month for 6 months). Since I am still not at my 30 day point I can easily change this though and get the new deal I was told (with netbook). My main issue is that I got a pretty good deal when I signed up $89.99 for 20/5 + HD Extreme + Phone. They quoted me $10 more for that same plan in my region. So I would lose the $180 but get a $300 netbook. I would also have to pay $10 more a month. Not exactly the slam dunk decision I had hoped for. I am going to take a few days to think about it.
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rmckofke @ 22nd Jun 03:17PM:
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said by dharel1705 :

said by rmckofke :

said by dharel1705 :

That rep is wrong. I confirmed via 3 chats and 2 call reps that you lose any promotional items you previously had. For example, I had a free HD MR DVR for 1 year. I lost that when I upgraded, but my overall plan came out cheaper.
I love my free DVR too much to lose it to the compaq netbook - my contract is up in November so I think I'll enjoy my 20/5 for the next few months
You know that you don't actually lose the DVR. You just have to pay for it. You would lose the free promo after a year anyway.
right but I use it all the time, and I figured at the most I'd drop it to the non HM version and swap out a box for an adapter to watch the costs somewhat. If I upgrade now Im giving them at least $60 that I wouldnt have if I just wait to renew when I'm up in November.

Im happy with 20/5, forget upload speed just give me a westell with a decent NAT table so I can dump the AT already.
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heritageguy @ 22nd Jun 03:35PM:
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I just called in and got upgraded to 25/15 at no charge. The rep said that since I had the top tier the speed upgrade was free. That works for me!
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 03:39PM:
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said by heritageguy :

I just called in and got upgraded to 25/15 at no charge. The rep said that since I had the top tier the speed upgrade was free. That works for me!
So you went from 50/20 to 25/15 ??? doesn't make much sense
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jammmin @ 22nd Jun 03:41PM:
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I am curious how many thousands of orignal subscribers are still on 5/2 who didn't know that they needed to call last year to get the free upgrade to 10/2.

Internet geeks here would know. Regular mom and pops wouldn't
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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 03:42PM:
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said by jammmin :

I am curious how many thousands of orignal subscribers are still on 5/2 who didn't know that they needed to call last year to get the free upgrade to 10/2.

Internet geeks here would know. Regular mom and pops wouldn't
Those people aren't concerned about their speed.
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heritageguy @ 22nd Jun 03:42PM:
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The top tier to which he was referring was the Triple Freedom Bundle - FIOS HD Extreme.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 03:45PM:
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Updated ... See page 19 of the thread
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destroyah @ 22nd Jun 03:45PM:
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It seems that my local BPON based office just dropped my speed for some reason. T_T



Will edit when I finish resetting the ONT. :mad:
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rifleman69 @ 22nd Jun 03:46PM:
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said by Piranhaz :

Wow, a lot of east coasters here giving feedback. :)

Being in Washington state, I wonder if I should jump on the new upgrade pricing and speeds now, looks like it'll be $15/mo more with just 25/15 internet+ExtremeTV, or wait until Frontier takes over and see what I end up with then? Will it be faster tiers, slower tiers, caps, etc. etc.. ugh..

Decisions decisions...
I'd stick with what you have if you're in one of the soon to be Frontier territories.
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BLUNTED 1 @ 22nd Jun 03:47PM:
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You can only get 35/20 on a triple play from what the reps told me so that sucks. I dont want 25/15 GRRR
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heritageguy @ 22nd Jun 03:50PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

said by heritageguy :

The top tier to which he was referring was the Triple Freedom Bundle - FIOS HD Extreme.
That was the 109.99 bundle and it cost 10 bucks to up to the 25/15 package ( now 119.99 ) and the loss of any current incentives to up and "re bundle" ... looks like a lot of people will be calling billing next month
My Triple Freedom Bundle bundle is 139.99 per month. It includes the movie package. Maybe that had something to do with it.
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 03:51PM:
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said by rifleman69 :

said by Piranhaz :

or wait until Frontier takes over and see what I end up with then? Will it be faster tiers, slower tiers, caps, etc. etc.. ugh..

Decisions decisions...
I'd stick with what you have if you're in one of the soon to be Frontier territories.
Why? If 25/25 comes my way and it's free/reasonable, I'm taking it. Why wouldn't I?
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Steely @ 22nd Jun 03:51PM:
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I don't know how some of you are being bumped from 20/5 to 25/15 for no additional charge. I called and was told it would cost me $5.00/mo more to re-bundle at the new speeds. The offer is a "Best" Triple Play bundle for $134.99, as opposed to my current $99.99 20/5 Freedom bundle + $30.00/mo for all the movie channels ($129.99 total).

There was nothing said about being "grandfathered in" for my current $30.00 all-movie-channels package and still getting the 25/15 speeds. The rep did say I would not lose the remaining 6 months of my one free HD box promo, and she did offer me the $99 Compaq netbook (which is really closer to $150 when you include the tax, shipping and handling fees).

Anyone else in New Jersey getting different information??

To summarize, to go from 20/5 to 25/15, I would have to pay $5/mo more than I'm paying now, and the premium movie channels would become tied into my bundle, therefore I'd be contractually obligated to retaining them for a full year.
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 03:52PM:
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said by aaronwt :

What is the best number to call for tech support? I need to see if they can do anything about my 50/20 tier since they screwed up my speeds last week.
1-800-837-4966 and follow the prompts.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 03:52PM:
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Updated ... See page 19 of the thread
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heritageguy @ 22nd Jun 03:55PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

That's my package as well ... Its now 119.99 + 30 dollars movie package ( grandfathered ) ... if you don't want a surpise, you had best call Verizon back.
The Rep checked twice to be sure. Maybe deals are different in different regions.
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TKC05 @ 22nd Jun 03:57PM:
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Placing my order for 35/20 removed movie package, bill goes down by $9.

BX, NY


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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 04:00PM:
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said by destroyah :

It seems that my local BPON based office just dropped my speed for some reason. T_T



Will edit when I finish resetting the ONT. :mad:
I'm on BPON too. This is what they did to me on my 50/20 tier. My upload is all over the place and my download can't even hit 50mbs any more. I'm going to call tech support about it tonght.

said by Gary A :

said by aaronwt :

What is the best number to call for tech support? I need to see if they can do anything about my 50/20 tier since they screwed up my speeds last week.
1-800-837-4966 and follow the prompts.
Thanks
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destroyah @ 22nd Jun 04:02PM:
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It seems that it got worse. :(


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Buglewe @ 22nd Jun 04:03PM:
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Same here, the rep told me to switch from 20/5 to 25/15 will cost me $5.00 more.
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 04:04PM:
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said by Buglewe :

Same here, the rep told me to switch from 20/5 to 25/15 will cost me $5.00 more.
$5.00 extra here...
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 04:06PM:
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How exactly do you find if you're on BPON vs GPON?
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destroyah @ 22nd Jun 04:07PM:
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You'll know. It depends on the ONT model. I have a Motorola 1000m or something like that with only a 100mbs lan port.

It seems that I'm back to normal. >.>
It seems that TCP/IP Offload v.2 was enabled for some reason in my Realtek gigabit lan settings. Not sure who changed it. --
--20/20 FIOS ~ 19.6D--23.8U--
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ravensfan55 @ 22nd Jun 04:07PM:
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Tellabs ONT - BPON
Alcatel-Lucent ONT - GPON

Motorola makes both BPON and GPON ONTs, so you'll have to find the model number if you have a Moto.
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TKC05 @ 22nd Jun 04:11PM:
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Close


no optimizations, any reccomendations other than the verizon one, always fails.
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kim11364 @ 22nd Jun 04:12PM:
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I am paying $50 for 20/5 plan. If I change my plan to 25/15, I have to pay $20 more. I guess it's now worth changing my plan
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Steely @ 22nd Jun 04:14PM:
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said by Acerone :

said by Buglewe :

Same here, the rep told me to switch from 20/5 to 25/15 will cost me $5.00 more.
$5.00 extra here...
You guys biting? I told the rep I'd think about it and call back. I'm not sure I'm ready just yet to pay more money, tie my movie channels into the 1-year bundle agreement and possibly risk losing my free HD box....all for a modest speed boost. What happens if I do this in, say, a month or two? (Probably nothing.)

Is this $99 netbook a big deal? Does it make it worth pulling the trigger now as opposed to waiting a few months? BTW, anyone know if it has onboard WiFi? The rep couldn't tell me!
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Buglewe @ 22nd Jun 04:17PM:
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My contract ends in August so I will have no other choice but to upgrade to the new triple play package for $99.99. Until then I will wait.
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Chaser @ 22nd Jun 04:17PM:
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said by darcilicious :

said by rifleman69 :

said by Piranhaz :

I'd stick with what you have if you're in one of the soon to be Frontier territories.
Why? If 25/25 comes my way and it's free/reasonable, I'm taking it. Why wouldn't I?
Practically, anyone would jump on a "free upgrade". But, what makes you think that Frontier is going to live up to Verizon's standards?

Like darcilicious said, we don't know what Frontier will do, but I was checking their website, and currently, Frontier charges $50 for their "3 Mbps, Frontier High-Speed Internet Max." They didn't even state the upload speed.

»www.frontier.com/products/Produc···pe=1&p=2

Frontier will likely honor Verizon's "2 year price guarantee", during which time, Frontier might jack up the prices for new customers. I think that's what rifleman69 was referring to.
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Buglewe @ 22nd Jun 04:18PM:
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My contract ends in August so I will have no other choice but to upgrade to the new triple play package for $99.99. Until then I will wait.
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Scyber @ 22nd Jun 04:20PM:
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To everyone questioning how it could be the same price for some people, remember that at one point Verizon had different package pricing depending on whether you committed for 1 or 2 years. For example, when I got my bundle billing "fixed' in july of '08 the options for Phone, 20/5 internet, & premiere TV was either $99.99 for 12 months, or $109.99 for 24 months. The difference was that the 24 month package qualified for a $200 gift card. So some people might have the same package at a different price.
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 04:21PM:
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said by Chaser :

Frontier charges $50 for their "3 Mbps, Frontier High-Speed Internet Max." They didn't even state the upload speed.
That's because it's their DSL package -- they don't offer fiber anywhere yet (or very very few places).
Frontier will likely honor Verizon's "2 year price guarantee", during which time, Frontier might jack up the prices for new customers. I think that's what rifleman69 was referring to.
Right. So upgrade now (or as late as possible before you become a Frontier customer) and know what you're getting and what you're going to pay for it.

Put it this way: it seems unlikely that Frontier will hand out more for the same or lesser price ;-)
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Steely @ 22nd Jun 04:21PM:
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Is this what everyone in NJ is seeing now?
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burnin8or @ 22nd Jun 04:25PM:
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said by Steely :

Is this $99 netbook a big deal? Does it make it worth pulling the trigger now as opposed to waiting a few months? BTW, anyone know if it has onboard WiFi? The rep couldn't tell me!
The information for the netbook on their site makes it sound like it does:

quote:
Product Specifications:

Communication: 10/100 LAN, WAN, WLAN, Webcam
Wireless access point and Internet service required and sold separately. Availability of public wireless access points limited


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Agent Smith @ 22nd Jun 04:27PM:
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35/20 NYC 10461 Zipcode here.
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Piranhaz @ 22nd Jun 04:28PM:
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said by darcilicious :

said by Chaser :

Frontier charges $50 for their "3 Mbps, Frontier High-Speed Internet Max." They didn't even state the upload speed.
That's because it's their DSL package -- they don't offer fiber anywhere yet (or very very few places).
Frontier will likely honor Verizon's "2 year price guarantee", during which time, Frontier might jack up the prices for new customers. I think that's what rifleman69 was referring to.
Right. So upgrade now (or as late as possible before you become a Frontier customer) and know what you're getting and what you're going to pay for it.

Put it this way: it seems unlikely that Frontier will hand out more for the same or lesser price ;-)
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I probably will call when I get home and upgrade to 25/15, as who knows when Frontier will officially take over and do away with Verizons offerings and make their own. Could be slower or more expensive.
And if Frontier does have better packages, I guess I could always change once again.

I'll need to make my own mochas at least once a week to make up the price difference. :D
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jefe @ 22nd Jun 04:29PM:
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Anybody know what order status "fallout" means? That's what the status is showing of the order I placed for a new package earlier today.
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Bviper @ 22nd Jun 04:36PM:
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said by jefe :

Anybody know what order status "fallout" means? That's what the status is showing of the order I placed for a new package earlier today.
I am trying to figure this out also.
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 04:38PM:
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said by Bviper :

said by jefe :

Anybody know what order status "fallout" means? That's what the status is showing of the order I placed for a new package earlier today.
I am trying to figure this out also.
Have you tried calling and asking? From a quick google, it looks like 'fallout' refers to an order exception of some sort.
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Hispanic @ 22nd Jun 04:41PM:
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I just got my upgrade...




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jefe @ 22nd Jun 04:52PM:
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I'm listening to hold music now.
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NastyGrouch @ 22nd Jun 04:52PM:
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I switched to the new bundle for tv and internet, my bill went up 10 or 15 but i got the 35/20 and im getting great speeds


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Hispanic @ 22nd Jun 04:55PM:
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Very nice.. ny ny! lol
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mangoSNJ @ 22nd Jun 04:56PM:
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I have no idea why, and I've called and chatted with a rep. Their computer shows me listed as 25/15 yet I keep getting these results.


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dsl_sutra @ 22nd Jun 04:59PM:
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I'm in the NYC FIOS area. 10/2 internet only - installed earlier this month.
When I signed up the price was a special offer $42.99 upgrade from DSL - 1 yr contract.

Waited on hold for 10 minutes then with the customer service rep for another 15 - on and off. So now provisioned for 15/5 will go into effect tomorrow with no price/contract change. The rep also said no need to reboot the AT router.

Does it normally take a day? I can't check for another few hours.
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 05:06PM:
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The VZ website must be hosed right now. Any link I try to click on gives me this error message:

We're sorry....
We are not able to process your request. To continue, please select
one of the following options:

Return to the previous page.
View the verizon.com site map.
Go to the verizon.com home page.
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rifleman69 @ 22nd Jun 05:09PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by darcilicious :

said by rifleman69 :

said by Piranhaz :

or wait until Frontier takes over and see what I end up with then? Will it be faster tiers, slower tiers, caps, etc. etc.. ugh..

Decisions decisions...
I'd stick with what you have if you're in one of the soon to be Frontier territories.
Why? If 25/25 comes my way and it's free/reasonable, I'm taking it. Why wouldn't I?
Because it locks you in that much longer with Frontier...who's success (or failure) is not guaranteed.
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rifleman69 @ 22nd Jun 05:10PM:
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said by Chaser :

Practically, anyone would jump on a "free upgrade". But, what makes you think that Frontier is going to live up to Verizon's standards?

Like darcilicious said, we don't know what Frontier will do, but I was checking their website, and currently, Frontier charges $50 for their "3 Mbps, Frontier High-Speed Internet Max." They didn't even state the upload speed.

»www.frontier.com/products/Produc···pe=1&p=2

Frontier will likely honor Verizon's "2 year price guarantee", during which time, Frontier might jack up the prices for new customers. I think that's what rifleman69 was referring to.
You hit the nail on the head Chaser.
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rifleman69 @ 22nd Jun 05:11PM:
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said by darcilicious :

said by Chaser :

Frontier charges $50 for their "3 Mbps, Frontier High-Speed Internet Max." They didn't even state the upload speed.
That's because it's their DSL package -- they don't offer fiber anywhere yet (or very very few places).
Frontier will likely honor Verizon's "2 year price guarantee", during which time, Frontier might jack up the prices for new customers. I think that's what rifleman69 was referring to.
Right. So upgrade now (or as late as possible before you become a Frontier customer) and know what you're getting and what you're going to pay for it.

Put it this way: it seems unlikely that Frontier will hand out more for the same or lesser price ;-)
Know what you're getting? You're guaranteeing that Frontier will function exactly the same as Verizon currently? I have a bridge to sell you over the Willamette if you're interested.
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 05:15PM:
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said by rifleman69 :

Because it locks you in that much longer with Frontier...who's success (or failure) is not guaranteed.
True but a risk I'm willing to take at least on the Internet side. Less sure about the video side... hmmmm..... :uhh:
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almahix @ 22nd Jun 05:16PM:
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said by Gary A :

The VZ website must be hosed right now. Any link I try to click on gives me this error message:

We're sorry....
We are not able to process your request. To continue, please select
one of the following options:

Return to the previous page.
View the verizon.com site map.
Go to the verizon.com home page.
Are you sure you can order online in your state? I know here in California we cannot.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 05:23PM:
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Again looks like us 20/20 people lose out in the rest of the states.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 05:23PM:
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Is anyone else still waiting for the speeds to kick in? Waiting since 11:30am. :/
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Buglewe @ 22nd Jun 05:23PM:
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My contract is up in August so I renewed for the $99.99 deal online which I was offered the Compaq Mini Notebook for $99.99.
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JeepMatt @ 22nd Jun 05:24PM:
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First test - just got home - this is the new 25/15 tier..

Last Result:
Download Speed: 25865 kbps (3233.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 21531 kbps (2691.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Not shabby!
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TheOtherPete @ 22nd Jun 05:27PM:
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Called about the 25/15 upgrade less than an hour ago and I just ran a speedtest and the new speeds are already active for me (Last Result: Download Speed: 26021 kbps Upload Speed: 23310 kbps) Sweeet.

Dealing with VZ reps is always a pain. After enduring several levels of menu automation from the 888-553-1555 I get dumped on a human who basically asks me why I'm calling even though all the menu prompts I answered previously should have clued them in about that, then after getting transferred I have to give the billing rep my account number (again)....then I tell her I want exactly the same triple package I have now but with 25/15 internet and she quotes me $129/mo but then mentions that includes free (?) showtime.

I guess she didn't grasp the concept of "exactly the same" because after I got her to drop showtime (lowering the price to what I expected, $119/mo) then she asks me if I want a bunch of other stuff that I have to refuse one after another.

I'm also on the phone with her for at least 10 full minutes with nothing but dead silence while she does something on her end...whatever system they are using, it really must suck to take that long to make what seems like a simple change.

Anyway, got the new speed, paying $10 per month - worth it for me.
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kdwycha @ 22nd Jun 05:29PM:
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Well....I thought it was going to cost 10 dollars more a month from the posts I seen yesterday.

I was paying 99.99 + for 10/2 and phone and TV with additional boxes and DVR and stuff.

Today I notice in Tampa it said 99.99 for the Triple Freedom with 15/5 internet.

I signed up online and it doesn't say it will go up any so I ordered and hopefully I will be all hooked up tomorrow with the new speed :D
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 05:31PM:
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said by almahix :

said by Gary A :

The VZ website must be hosed right now. Any link I try to click on gives me this error message:

We're sorry....
We are not able to process your request. To continue, please select
one of the following options:

Return to the previous page.
View the verizon.com site map.
Go to the verizon.com home page.
Are you sure you can order online in your state? I know here in California we cannot.
Yes - I was logged into MyVerizon looking at the bundles yesterday and earlier today.

Now, I'm getting:

Gateway Timeout
The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server.
Reference #1.bda81160.1245705245.2418289
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kdwycha @ 22nd Jun 05:36PM:
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Yes - I was logged into MyVerizon looking at the bundles yesterday and earlier today.

Now, I'm getting:

Gateway Timeout
The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server.
Reference #1.bda81160.1245705245.2418289
I got that when I ordered my new internet speeds online. The chat CSR gave me a new link and I tried everything over again and finally got a confirmation number. Although the number doesnt seem to show up in my orders yet on the myverizon.com site. Might take a little while I guess.
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Cyberian75 @ 22nd Jun 05:45PM:
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My order for 15/5 is showing as completed, but my speeds haven't changed. What gives?
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tcp1 @ 22nd Jun 05:46PM:
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Does upgrading via online order always take an extra day, vs calling in?

Figured it's worth it to do it online for the $5/mo off...
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kes601 @ 22nd Jun 06:03PM:
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When I go in to modify my services to change from 20/5 to 25/15, it shows me a price increase of $12 ($64.99). This is even more excessive than the $10 increase I thought it was going to be. Anybody else seeing this price?
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jefe @ 22nd Jun 06:03PM:
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Yep
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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 06:04PM:
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said by Agent Smith :

35/20 NYC 10461 Zipcode here.
that is a really good deal. My 50/20 tier cost $90 plus I have Extreme HD and cell service for another$85.

If they had those prices here, I would go back tohaving phone service and drop to the 35/20 tier you have access to.
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Ancalagon @ 22nd Jun 06:06PM:
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Ok, so is the $5/month discount only for new subscribers? I spoke with a dude on the phone who was stumbling badly through his call script so I don't necessarily trust the accuracy of his information, but he said the $5/month discount is only for new accounts.

I'm on a $109.99 20/5 Triple-Play right now and I'm looking to get the 25/15 for the best price possible.
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KenAF @ 22nd Jun 06:06PM:
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Does anyone in N. VA or MD see the TV+Internet bundles when they login? I don't see any bundle options.
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 06:09PM:
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said by KenAF :

Does anyone in N. VA or MD see the TV+Internet bundles when they login? I don't see any bundle options.
I don't believe the TV+Internet bundles are available anymore :( They're all Triple-Play with various speed tiers or premium movie add-ons. At least, that's certainly the case in OR...
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 06:15PM:
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Actually, the press release »newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···net.html there should still be double-plays but if so, none of them show up for me :p

Bundle pricing varies by market and starts at $99.99 for triple bundles and $79.99 for double bundles. Both double and triple bundles require a one-year service agreement; however, customers will receive a two-year price guarantee.

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Agent Smith @ 22nd Jun 06:17PM:
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But you live in VA heh of course is better there if i was there heck i would pick 50/20 over 35/20.
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jefe @ 22nd Jun 06:18PM:
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said by tcp1 :

said by Bviper :

said by jefe :

Anybody know what order status "fallout" means? That's what the status is showing of the order I placed for a new package earlier today.
I am trying to figure this out also.
Have you tried calling and asking? From a quick google, it looks like 'fallout' refers to an order exception of some sort.
This is my first experience with the quagmire of Verizon customer support that I've read about in this forum. I spent about an hour on the phone between being transfered to different departments (Oh...we're not the department to handle that) and listening to hold music.

I eventually, after an hour, wound up right back where I started when I first called. I thought of the movie "Groundhog Day." I hung up and went back to an online live chat.

The live chat person told me that "fallout" means something didn't process properly. She said my INTERNET order had gone right through but the TV portion required manual intervention and would be processed tomorrow. I'm a little skeptical because when I look online at order status both Internet and TV are showing "fallout."

I guess I'll be waiting until tomorrow to find out if the situation resolves itself. :(
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jmn1207 @ 22nd Jun 06:21PM:
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I only see double play with internet and phone service. I don't see anything for bundles with just TV and internet.

Is it possible to get a triple play bundle, and pay for 3 services, but not use the phone service or even get a Verizon phone number?
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Chaser @ 22nd Jun 06:24PM:
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You can always unplug your phones, but the number would still be available.
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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 06:25PM:
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It shows the same price whether 1 year or 6 months.

They list a flex bundle with 25/15 Internet and Extreme HD for $94.99 a month. When I try to make a bundle with cell service with both of those or just one, it says there is no bundle available like before. if they offered the 35/20 tier here instead I would sign up for that tier, but with 25/15 I think I'll wait until August to see what transpires.

If I could go back in time I would have never dropped my landline. It has just caused me too many headaches and it looks like I will no longer get a discount once my current bundle with Extreme HD and cell service ends.

said by KenAF :

Does anyone in N. VA or MD see the TV+Internet bundles when they login? I don't see any bundle options.

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birdfeedr @ 22nd Jun 06:38PM:
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said by steve6966 :

Do these prices seem right? Is it cheaper?
The page you pulled up is incomplete. Even though you have the Phone checked on the top line, it did not make it down to the bundle choices. I saw that same thing yesterday when I was going back and forth with checking bundles. If you tried to order, you'll see the phone portion is not populated.

Trying to place the order will end up either nowhere (incomplete, not fulfilled) or placed with items or prices you weren't aware you'd be billed for.

Personally, I would try again. If it doesn't look right, you'll end up in BillingHell(tm).
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jmn1207 @ 22nd Jun 06:39PM:
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said by Chaser :

You can always unplug your phones, but the number would still be available.
I can't just unplug my phone as we have 2 separate Verizon bills to the same address under different names. One for a POTS connection, and another for FiOS TV and internet. It would probably be possible, to do, but I shudder to think what it might do to our bills. Since the FiOS side would be using the fiber for the phone service, I would just pay for the phone, but never get it installed and just leave the ONT completely out of the phone picture...while saving money on a bundled package.
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eric87m @ 22nd Jun 06:46PM:
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Switched from 20/20 to 25/15 and bill went down $30 and am getting these speeds:

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birdfeedr @ 22nd Jun 06:53PM:
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said by Steely :

Is this $99 netbook a big deal? Does it make it worth pulling the trigger now as opposed to waiting a few months? BTW, anyone know if it has onboard WiFi? The rep couldn't tell me!
A netbook without onboard wifi? It wouldn't be a netbook then. :o

I wouldn't get so excited about it. It looks like a Compaq-branded eee-pc.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 06:57PM:
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im getting 26 down with 25/15 but only about 12 or 13 up. anyone have a suggestion?
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 06:58PM:
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said by Steely :

said by Acerone :

said by Buglewe :

Same here, the rep told me to switch from 20/5 to 25/15 will cost me $5.00 more.
$5.00 extra here...
You guys biting? I told the rep I'd think about it and call back. I'm not sure I'm ready just yet to pay more money, tie my movie channels into the 1-year bundle agreement and possibly risk losing my free HD box....all for a modest speed boost. What happens if I do this in, say, a month or two? (Probably nothing.)

Is this $99 netbook a big deal? Does it make it worth pulling the trigger now as opposed to waiting a few months? BTW, anyone know if it has onboard WiFi? The rep couldn't tell me!
The person I spoke to say my Free for one year HD DVR Multi Room receiver will extend for another year with no charge if I take the new $99 plan...
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 06:58PM:
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said by birdfeedr :

said by steve6966 :

Do these prices seem right? Is it cheaper?
The page you pulled up is incomplete. Even though you have the Phone checked on the top line, it did not make it down to the bundle choices. I saw that same thing yesterday when I was going back and forth with checking bundles. If you tried to order, you'll see the phone portion is not populated.

Trying to place the order will end up either nowhere (incomplete, not fulfilled) or placed with items or prices you weren't aware you'd be billed for.

Personally, I would try again. If it doesn't look right, you'll end up in BillingHell(tm).
Not true. The page is not incomplete. I got the same thing. Phone is listed as free with this new bundle. My existing phone service will not change. This package is discounted almost $68 to bring it to $90. I verified with 3 online chats and 2 reps on the phone. I think it has to due with how my original bundle was put together. My order went through and I have a printed confirmation with confirmation number. When checking for status, I am at 70% complete with full activation due tomorrow.

My monthly total for service FiOS Triple Freedom with phone, 35/20 internet and Extreme HD plus HBO, Cinemax and movies is now $90. In addition, I have to pay 19.99 for multi room HD dvr, 11.98 for 2 HD stbs and fees/taxes. In the end I save about $20 per month.
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Steely @ 22nd Jun 07:05PM:
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said by Acerone :

The person I spoke to say my Free for one year HD DVR Multi Room receiver will extend for another year with no charge if I take the new $99 plan...
Free for a whole new year starting now or free until the end of the original annual agreement? Doesn't seem right they would actually restart the entire promotion.
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kes601 @ 22nd Jun 07:07PM:
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Well, I decided to go ahead and update even though the new speeds did not excite me, I like the 24 month price guarantee.

The rep did give me HBO + Cinemax for free for 3 months even though I already subscribed to them, however now I have to think that I will then be hit with the $35/month charge instead of the $30/month charge I pay now. But, that is ok because I will cancel HBO + Cinemax after the True Blood season is over.

So, for the next 3 months I will pay $6 less than I pay now.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 07:09PM:
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Just so everyone understands(based on the results of some of the test results I think its clear)

if you got the 25/15 you could get results up to 25/25

if you got 35/20 you could get results up to 35/35

If you got 15/5 you could get results up to 25/25 (not a typo)

If you are getting anything greater it could be because of the test server or by mistake you were provisioned on the 50/20 tier. I believe the latter being the main problem. :-)

Have fun everyone with your new speeds and if you didn't get it this round hopefully the next one in August will be better :-)
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 07:11PM:
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said by almahix :

said by Gary A :

The VZ website must be hosed right now. Any link I try to click on gives me this error message:

We're sorry....
We are not able to process your request. To continue, please select
one of the following options:

Return to the previous page.
View the verizon.com site map.
Go to the verizon.com home page.
Are you sure you can order online in your state? I know here in California we cannot.
After leaving the PC to have dinner, I came back and was able to access the FiOS bundle tab on MyVerizon, once again.

Above are the bundle offerings in Flori-duh. If I went with the first option, I would gain internet speed, but lose HD channels currently available with the now discontinued Premier TV package. The second option would gain internet speed (currently 10/2) and give me a few more HD channels, but they are ones that I wouldn't watch anyway and my monthly price would go up by $25. The third option adds the Showtime channels which I do not currently have and am not interested in.
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Florida triple play bundles
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Acerone @ 22nd Jun 07:13PM:
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said by Steely :

said by Acerone :

The person I spoke to say my Free for one year HD DVR Multi Room receiver will extend for another year with no charge if I take the new $99 plan...
Free for a whole new year starting now or free until the end of the original annual agreement? Doesn't seem right they would actually restart the entire promotion.
All I remember her saying this extends for another year but not sure if her means today or when my agreement ends in 4 more months...
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Ancalagon @ 22nd Jun 07:28PM:
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So I still need 2 answers before going forward...

1.) Does the $5 off for a month for a year promotion apply to existing customers?

2.) If I'm going with a 1 year contract, and they introduce some sweet new tiers in August, am I stuck with my current tier?

I've been on this 20/5 triple play since July 2006 so I don't know what the pricing is these days.
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steve6966 @ 22nd Jun 07:34PM:
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said by dharel1705 :

said by birdfeedr :

said by steve6966 :

Do these prices seem right? Is it cheaper?
The page you pulled up is incomplete. Even though you have the Phone checked on the top line, it did not make it down to the bundle choices. I saw that same thing yesterday when I was going back and forth with checking bundles. If you tried to order, you'll see the phone portion is not populated.

Trying to place the order will end up either nowhere (incomplete, not fulfilled) or placed with items or prices you weren't aware you'd be billed for.

Personally, I would try again. If it doesn't look right, you'll end up in BillingHell(tm).
Not true. The page is not incomplete. I got the same thing. Phone is listed as free with this new bundle. My existing phone service will not change. This package is discounted almost $68 to bring it to $90. I verified with 3 online chats and 2 reps on the phone. I think it has to due with how my original bundle was put together. My order went through and I have a printed confirmation with confirmation number. When checking for status, I am at 70% complete with full activation due tomorrow.

My monthly total for service FiOS Triple Freedom with phone, 35/20 internet and Extreme HD plus HBO, Cinemax and movies is now $90. In addition, I have to pay 19.99 for multi room HD dvr, 11.98 for 2 HD stbs and fees/taxes. In the end I save about $20 per month.
I'm confirming the same when ordering online. Spoke to them over the phone and their best offer was $20 more for slower speed.
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 07:49PM:
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Yes steve6966, that is exactly what I ordered. It seems online ordering is completely different than phone ordering. Here is a recent chat excerpt confirming bundle discounts:

Brandon: usually the way it works, you get a bundle discount for having all 3 services

Dave: Plus, the plan states it is discounted 67.98 for a total of $90.

Brandon: so the price breakdown shows what each service is by itself, but then the overall price is discounted for having multiple services

Brandon: that would be about right

Dave: OK. So phone being listed as free is nothing to worry about since my order went through.

Brandon: well the combination can be a bit tricky on how they bill each service. but the overall bill is what includes all the discounts

Brandon: and bundle pricing

Dave: If my confirmation page shows phone as free, with the other prices detailed above for tv and internet, then I am safe to assume my order is OK and I will not be losing any service (phone in particular)?

Brandon: you wont lose anything, but if you want to confirm how the pricing breaks down I would suggest talking to the billing/sales office. you wont lose any services though

Dave: OK. Thanks.
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Gary A @ 22nd Jun 07:50PM:
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Free phone!!! :o Well no wonder you got such a great bottom line price for the triple play bundle.

Man, am I jealous of you guys in NY. :huh: You got some great deals. The rest of us got sc***ed.
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gmsbf5104 @ 22nd Jun 08:00PM:
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said by Gary A :

After leaving the PC to have dinner, I came back and was able to access the FiOS bundle tab on MyVerizon, once again.

Above are the bundle offerings in Flori-duh. If I went with the first option, I would gain internet speed, but lose HD channels currently available with the now discontinued Premier TV package. The second option would gain internet speed (currently 10/2) and give me a few more HD channels, but they are ones that I wouldn't watch anyway and my monthly price would go up by $25. The third option adds the Showtime channels which I do not currently have and am not interested in.
Looks like the changed the bundles from last night. Earlier at 129.99 it included all the movie channels. Apparently Florida ended up not getting a good deal like originally mentioned by one of the VZ reps since it now jumps from 139.99 for all channels to 159.99.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 08:11PM:
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said by gmsbf5104 :

said by Gary A :

After leaving the PC to have dinner, I came back and was able to access the FiOS bundle tab on MyVerizon, once again.

Above are the bundle offerings in Flori-duh. If I went with the first option, I would gain internet speed, but lose HD channels currently available with the now discontinued Premier TV package. The second option would gain internet speed (currently 10/2) and give me a few more HD channels, but they are ones that I wouldn't watch anyway and my monthly price would go up by $25. The third option adds the Showtime channels which I do not currently have and am not interested in.
Looks like the changed the bundles from last night. Earlier at 129.99 it included all the movie channels. Apparently Florida ended up not getting a good deal like originally mentioned by one of the VZ reps since it now jumps from 139.99 for all channels to 159.99.
No, its is 149.99 ( 119.99 + 30 ) not 159.99, a ten dollar increase for the 20/5 to 25/15 tier change here in Florida
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johnmax @ 22nd Jun 08:12PM:
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Changed my triple play with 20/20 at $94.99 plus movies/sports 17.99 plus HBOs 21.99 ($134.97 total) to some new Extreme HD Plus (dont remember exactly the name) which gives me all the same channels, all movies, minus the sports package (dont need it) AND 35/20 for $134.99. So $.02 more for more speed. All my discounts and promos stayed the same.

And seeing 35+ down and 30+ up too!
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Cyberian75 @ 22nd Jun 08:13PM:
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Where can I find the live chat link?
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Nesis @ 22nd Jun 08:15PM:
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New speedtests. Apollo Beach FL. Coming from the 20/5 package.
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birdfeedr @ 22nd Jun 08:17PM:
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said by steve6966 :

I'm confirming the same when ordering online. Spoke to them over the phone and their best offer was $20 more for slower speed.
Oops! I didn't notice the NY factor.

Verizon is sure driving a lot of activity with different geographic plans. I did try to see what came up for me, but no dice. Nothing worth springing extra for.

I'm actually happy with what I have. It works for me. :)
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Cyberian75 @ 22nd Jun 08:18PM:
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Man, my upstream is still at 1800kb/s... it'd be around 4800kb/s.
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gmsbf5104 @ 22nd Jun 08:22PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

No, its is 149.99 ( 119.99 + 30 ) not 159.99, a ten dollar increase for the 20/5 to 25/15 tier change here in Florida
My bad your right. I didn't think their system would let you order Showtime twice. Of course it doesn't help everytime I try to play with any of the bundles it loads an error page directing me to contact the local office.

I messed with it on two different accounts also and was surprised to see two different offers on the $35 movie channel package. One was 21.99 off the two or three months with extreme HD and the other was 15.99 off for a year with extreme HD or the other option.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 08:39PM:
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I'm currently getting 20/5 Internet & phone (Freedom whatever package) for $70 per in NJ, with my contract ending next month. Called in about the new packages, and I can either pay $10 a month more for a speed downgrade (15/5), or $20 a month for 25/15 -- which I don't need.

I said that both new packages were unacceptable, and asked if I could go back to DSL. Can't, since they cut the copper. I said I'll probably switch to OOL and Optimum voice, and she couldn't have cared less.

Nice way to treat a very long time customer. Burn in hell, Verizon.
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Ancalagon @ 22nd Jun 08:42PM:
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Well damn, I have good luck.

I called up Verizon to see about upgrading my 20/5 to 20/20 here in Florida. I figured what the heck, it's worth a shot, I prefer 20/20 to 25/15 any day. I'm making small talk with the CSR about how busy they must be with the new promotions. CSR comments that yeah, it's been crazy with the new netbook promotion. I say yeah I bet, but is that netbook only for new customers, or does it apply to renewals/upgrades with a contract extension also? CSR says to hold on, checking with a supervisor. CSR comes back and says "Sure, we'll throw in the netbook with the 20/20 internet [$10 more monthly), it'll put you under contract for the next year." I say "Sure, that sounds awesome."

So in the end for $10 a month more I got myself 20/20 and a netbook. Not bad. I have crazy luck with customer service.
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BLUNTED 1 @ 22nd Jun 08:45PM:
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I'm just annoyed I can't get the 35/20 with internet only. They say I need the triple play and I said I don't want it but you have to get it for the 35/20 which is stupid if you ask me.
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dmodert66 @ 22nd Jun 08:49PM:
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said by Ancalagon :

Well damn, I have good luck.

I called up Verizon to see about upgrading my 20/5 to 20/20 here in Florida. I figured what the heck, it's worth a shot, I prefer 20/20 to 25/15 any day. I'm making small talk with the CSR about how busy they must be with the new promotions. CSR comments that yeah, it's been crazy with the new netbook promotion. I say yeah I bet, but is that netbook only for new customers, or does it apply to renewals/upgrades with a contract extension also? CSR says to hold on, checking with a supervisor. CSR comes back and says "Sure, we'll throw in the netbook with the 20/20 internet [$10 more monthly), it'll put you under contract for the next year." I say "Sure, that sounds awesome."

So in the end for $10 a month more I got myself 20/20 and a netbook. Not bad. I have crazy luck with customer service.
When I called about moving to a bundle (currently all 3 are separate), he said he would see about the netbook. He was surprised when it didn't come up as an option, and that he will speak with his supervisor tomorrow and call me at 2:30 PST...Here's hoping... (By the way, mine will actually save me about $40 a month)
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Piranhaz @ 22nd Jun 08:52PM:
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Okay, got my upgrade -



Even tho it does cost me an extra $15/month. But, as before, who knows what service/tiers Frontier will supply, so I might as well get it while I can. At least for a year.
So I have Internet 25/15 + ExtremeHD for $94.99/month.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 09:03PM:
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OK, with all the different info on upgrading if your a current package I did a chat and called back the Elite Group

Chat says none of your current promos are effected , called the Elite group and explained were getting different answers so they called the person that did the training for the new bundles. This time, the answer came back that yes, no changes will happen to current discounts, cash card, monthly $$ off ect.

More interesting info is that the deal for Florida is NEW customers get HBO for a year free ( explains why there is a showtime movie tier for 129.99 ) AND up to two free DCT700's the digital adapter, this is in direct response to competition from Bright house cable

So I did the upgrade to 25/15 for 10 bucks and confirmed all incentive's stayed in place.

Also, the rep confirmed that in August tier's would be changing again and that things would role out country wide that are now regional ... guess we can start a new thread on yet again rumors on what is next :)
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SoCalDude @ 22nd Jun 09:06PM:
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So if the 15/5 and 25/15 both get up to 25/25, is there really a difference? Will the up to 25/25 wear off after downloading for a while?
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anon @ 22nd Jun 09:14PM:
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said by SoCalDude :

So if the 15/5 and 25/15 both get up to 25/25, is there really a difference? Will the up to 25/25 wear off after downloading for a while?
no...it will stay sustained.
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 09:11PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

Chat says none of your current promos are effected , called the Elite group and explained were getting different answers so they called the person that did the training for the new bundles. This time, the answer came back that yes, no changes will happen to current discounts, cash card, monthly $$ off ect.
So this is different than what I was told. I was told that by upgrading, I would lose my free DVR promotion. If this is not the case, based on your findings, my upgrade deal is even better. $90 per month for Triple Freedom with phone, 35/20 Internet, Extreme HD TV plus HBO, Cinemax & Movies plus 11.98 for 2 HD STBs. That's 101.98 plus fees & taxes. That saves me over $40 per month if I still get my dvr free.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 09:16PM:
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said by dharel1705 :

said by guppy_fish :

Chat says none of your current promos are effected , called the Elite group and explained were getting different answers so they called the person that did the training for the new bundles. This time, the answer came back that yes, no changes will happen to current discounts, cash card, monthly $$ off ect.
So this is different than what I was told. I was told that by upgrading, I would lose my free DVR promotion. If this is not the case, based on your findings, my upgrade deal is even better. $90 per month for Triple Freedom with phone, 35/20 Internet, Extreme HD TV plus HBO, Cinemax & Movies plus 11.98 for 2 HD STBs. That's 101.98 plus fees & taxes. That saves me over $40 per month if I still get my dvr free.
They confirmed after the upgrade processed that all current promo's were retained. So it would seem that its what I wanted , just pay for new bundle pricing ( and we don't get any new freebies )
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 09:17PM:
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said by vzguy1 :

said by SoCalDude :

So if the 15/5 and 25/15 both get up to 25/25, is there really a difference? Will the up to 25/25 wear off after downloading for a while?
no...it will stay sustained.
VZguy1 Any comment that the soon to be 35/35 and 25/25 will be country wide in August?
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Springbokke @ 22nd Jun 09:21PM:
Seems everyone gets a different price

Yesterday I logged into my account and checked how much it will be to upgrade from 20/5 to 25/15 and it was $15.

Today I repeat the process and now it's $17.

Then the sales chat popped up and they guy made me a offer I can definitely refuse, he said $20.

Verizon suck.
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guppy_fish @ 22nd Jun 09:23PM:
Re: Seems everyone gets a different price

said by Springbokke :

Yesterday I logged into my account and checked how much it will be to upgrade from 20/5 to 25/15 and it was $15.

Today I repeat the process and now it's $17.

Then the sales chat popped up and they guy made me a offer I can definitely refuse, he said $20.

Verizon suck.
Interesting as chat has no access to customer records and can't sign anyone up for anything
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Springbokke @ 22nd Jun 09:31PM:
Re: Seems everyone gets a different price

said by guppy_fish :

said by Springbokke :

Yesterday I logged into my account and checked how much it will be to upgrade from 20/5 to 25/15 and it was $15.

Today I repeat the process and now it's $17.

Then the sales chat popped up and they guy made me a offer I can definitely refuse, he said $20.

Verizon suck.
Interesting as chat has no access to customer records and can't sign anyone up for anything
Apparently I look like good bait because the chat always pop up when I check prices.
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kdwycha @ 22nd Jun 09:31PM:
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What's the deal with online ordering and the status on the myverizon.com site? I am in Florida and already have the triple play with 10/2 internet. I changed my internet to 15/5 today at around 4 or 5PM and I did receive a confirmation number after going through all the screens.

I check the myverizon.com site to see my order status and it says there are no pending orders and it can take 24 hours to post on there. I also got no confirmation e-mails.

Has anyone else ordered online and how long did it take for the order status to post? I am just curious if I should reorder tomorrow if it is not there and the website is less busy.

Thanks.
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dharel1705 @ 22nd Jun 09:34PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by kdwycha :

What's the deal with online ordering and the status on the myverizon.com site? I am in Florida and already have the triple play with 10/2 internet. I changed my internet to 15/5 today at around 4 or 5PM and I did receive a confirmation number after going through all the screens.

I check the myverizon.com site to see my order status and it says there are no pending orders and it can take 24 hours to post on there. I also got no confirmation e-mails.

Has anyone else ordered online and how long did it take for the order status to post? I am just curious if I should reorder tomorrow if it is not there and the website is less busy.

Thanks.
I got the same thing. Goto www.verizon.com/orderstatus and choose check order status without logging in.

This worked for me. Plus, I called and spoke to a rep to confirm my order was actually in the system.
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NY Tel @ 22nd Jun 09:36PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Did you check your speed at speakeasy to see if it went through?

»www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
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anon @ 22nd Jun 09:55PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

said by vzguy1 :

said by SoCalDude :

So if the 15/5 and 25/15 both get up to 25/25, is there really a difference? Will the up to 25/25 wear off after downloading for a while?
no...it will stay sustained.
VZguy1 Any comment that the soon to be 35/35 and 25/25 will be country wide in August?
Negative on the 35/35....that will stay in Downstate NY only. The 25/25 will be the norm in August though.
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Ancalagon @ 22nd Jun 10:00PM:
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Is the 25/25 going to be automatic for 20/20, or is it going to be a higher cost upgrade new tier thing?
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darcilicious @ 22nd Jun 10:12PM:
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Verizon has yet to do an automatic FiOS upgrade so if they did it for 25/25, it would be a first.
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N O Y B @ 22nd Jun 10:13PM:
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No fluff.

Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Where's my fluff?


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NY Tel @ 22nd Jun 10:14PM:
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said by N O Y B :


No fluff.

Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Where's my fluff?
That's normal for the 20X5 tier.
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Agent Smith @ 22nd Jun 10:14PM:
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I think its only for new tiers like 25/15 and like 35/20 for the fluff.

also to the others THERE is not automatic upgrades you have to call to process or get the tier.
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N O Y B @ 22nd Jun 10:19PM:
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said by NY Tel :

said by N O Y B :


No fluff.

Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Where's my fluff?
That's normal for the 20X5 tier.

Right. No fluff; allowance for TCP overhead.


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NY Tel @ 22nd Jun 10:21PM:
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said by N O Y B :


said by NY Tel :

said by N O Y B :


No fluff.

Download Speed: 19642 kbps (2455.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 4610 kbps (576.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Where's my fluff?
That's normal for the 20X5 tier.

Right. No fluff; allowance for TCP overhead.


No I do get fluff depending on the day of the week. I never get higher than 4800 on the upload and on the download I often get 22,000 but on average - my readings are close to yours and I am on PPPoE.
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Wait, I just saw the Verizon FiOS guy as I was getting off - He's the one on the right....
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sbtim @ 22nd Jun 10:37PM:
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getting about 26down/16 up now.

only a little fluff for me...
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Steely @ 22nd Jun 10:48PM:
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Where are you located? "Fluff" may be somewhat area dependent!
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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 10:48PM:
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I just talked with tech support. What a bunch of idiots. they were trying to have me change settings on one PC, saying the problem was with the PC, even though I reiterated multiple times that my six desktops and three laptops(all are either Vista 64, Vista 32 or WinXP) all exhibit the speed fluctuations and it started at the same time last week. Yet they kept insisting that I need to change the RWIN values on my VISTA machine.

Between billing and now tech support I have really lost all faith in Verizon. The last time I let Verizon install something on my PC and make changes I lost over 100 email rules and had to reenter over 40 accounts. Heck if I'm going to let them screw things up again.
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aaronwt @ 22nd Jun 10:49PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Steely :

Where are you located? "Fluff" may be somewhat area dependent!
Yes, we have neagtive fluff here
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sbtim @ 22nd Jun 10:50PM:
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im in los angeles. my download tests at 26 but on FTP servers its been up to 31
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SoCalDude @ 22nd Jun 11:03PM:
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I'm trying to look at the prices online, but every time I enter my Verizon home number, I get this page. I used to be able to get in. Any one know why I keep getting this page?
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dmodert66 @ 22nd Jun 11:05PM:
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said by SoCalDude :

I'm trying to look at the prices online, but every time I enter my Verizon home number, I get this page. I used to be able to get in. Any one know why I keep getting this page?
I have been getting that page for months now (since before the 20/20 upgrade). I find it easier just to call and have the rep tell me about the packages, and compare them to what I see here to make sure I'm not getting ripped off...
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UofMiamiGrad @ 22nd Jun 11:08PM:
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35/20 rocks!



TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.5.4b
click START to begin

** Starting test 1 of 1 **
Connected to: miranda.ctd.anl.gov -- Using IPv4 address
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 34.49Mb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 32.20Mb/s
The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 45 Mbps T3/DS3 subnet
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SoCalDude @ 22nd Jun 11:08PM:
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Ya, I've been getting that page for a few weeks, but I actually got in once last week. No luck so far.
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anon @ 22nd Jun 11:31PM:
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still waiting for my speed change.. since 11:30am
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anon @ 23rd Jun 12:34AM:
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I had a 5/2 plan for 3 years which I was completely happy with. Then they started charging me $5 more for speeds they don't even offer any more.

They would not grandfather me into the 10/2 speeds or even the new 15/5.

They forced me to pay more and get less..

I HATE VERIZON and that's the same reason I went to T-Mobile as well for my cell phone. VERIZON are greedy corporate monsters who think they can do what they want to whoever and screw over contracts.

Anyways, thanks for letting me vent.. I simply went over to DSL EXTREME who offer Fiber (Because they lease the verizon lines) for $39.99 a month for 10/2!! Wooot!! that's what I was paying for a 5/2 plan.

I highly suggest spreading the word, dropping your fios wireless B.S. and moving to the competition.

If you keep paying, verizon will keep gouging!
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PurdueGuy @ 23rd Jun 12:59AM:
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I think I'm lucky I ordered about 2 weeks ago.

I am moving to a condo in Long Beach, California, and went ahead and scheduled the FiOS install (internet and TV). I got the previous bundle of:
- 20/5 internet
- Extreme HD TV
- $100 Visa card back after 60 days
- $79.99/month (for 1 year)

Now, it looks like if I try to change, I would have to go with one of the following:
- 25/15 Internet
- FiOS TV Extreme HD
- $94.99/month
OR
- 15/5 Internet
- FiOS TV Essentials
- $84.99/month

Neither bundle has the $100 cash back! So in either case, I'm paying more $$ per month (even to get less services!), and not getting $100 back.
Seem this is a huge downgrade, and not an upgrade!
Am I missing something?!?
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eric87m @ 23rd Jun 03:47AM:
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So how long do people expect these higher-than-they-should-be-speeds to last?
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SoCalDude @ 23rd Jun 04:23AM:
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said by eric87m :

So how long do people expect these higher-than-they-should-be-speeds to last?
Maybe til August, when FIOS gets more upgrades. I wonder if it's still going to be 10/10, 25/25, 75/25.
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birdfeedr @ 23rd Jun 05:53AM:
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said by vpro :

still waiting for my speed change.. since 11:30am
Did you get any order confirmation?

Speedtest exactly the same as before order upgrade? or slightly improved?

Consider rebooting router. Also, you may need to optimize for higher speed.
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kdwycha @ 23rd Jun 06:07AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by birdfeedr :

said by vpro :

still waiting for my speed change.. since 11:30am
Did you get any order confirmation?

Speedtest exactly the same as before order upgrade? or slightly improved?

Consider rebooting router. Also, you may need to optimize for higher speed.
Heh like this guy I got 2 order confirmations actually. One done at 4PM yesterday which I didn't know if it went through and then one at 10PM.
I try to check at »www.verizon.com/orderstatus without logging in as well as myverizon.com and clicking recent orders and nothing shows up on either.

Guess I will have to call this morning because it appears online ordering is broken or something even though it gives you order confirmation.
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kdwycha @ 23rd Jun 06:40AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by kdwycha :

said by birdfeedr :

said by vpro :

still waiting for my speed change.. since 11:30am
Did you get any order confirmation?

Speedtest exactly the same as before order upgrade? or slightly improved?

Consider rebooting router. Also, you may need to optimize for higher speed.
Heh like this guy I got 2 order confirmations actually. One done at 4PM yesterday which I didn't know if it went through and then one at 10PM.
I try to check at »www.verizon.com/orderstatus without logging in as well as myverizon.com and clicking recent orders and nothing shows up on either.

Guess I will have to call this morning because it appears online ordering is broken or something even though it gives you order confirmation.
Heh. The guy from live chat kept telling me to keep refreshing the page yesterday and I just called to check order status and there were 10 orders placed for the upgrade from 10/2 to 15/5 and none of them went through.

The CSR told me I have to wait until 8AM and call billing to upgrade. I never did have much luck with the Verizon website.
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bronxlcsw @ 23rd Jun 07:40AM:
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Well here are 2 different spped tests. One wired the other wireless. On the wired i get the 35/25 speed. However, on the wireless i barely break 17mbs down and up. My wireless settings on the actiontec router is wpa security channel selection is set to automatic. I am also sitting 9 feet from the router. is this the top speed on the wireless side i could expect.
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birdfeedr @ 23rd Jun 08:11AM:
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said by bronxlcsw :

is this the top speed on the wireless side i could expect.
Maybe you could get better, and you certainly could get less. Too many factors influence wireless reception. That's why anyone will tell you if you're checking the provisioning of your internet connection, used wired to see what FiOS is delivering.

Wireless is a different story.
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anon @ 23rd Jun 08:13AM:
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Yeah speedtest's are 20/5.. I did the optimization for 25/15 and still same speeds, I've rebooted PC and router yesterday after few hours after getting off the phone. I guess I gotta call billing again today.
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aaronwt @ 23rd Jun 08:13AM:
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If your using wireless G you won't be able to hit those speeds. I know on my 5Ghz wireless N, the speed tests are the same as from my wired connections. Which used to always hit 51.5 mbs(now it's around 49mbs because of Verizon changes)
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Acerone @ 23rd Jun 08:16AM:
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Did anyone confirm that the price of the 25/15 and 35/20 both go for $64.99 in NY? I forgot to ask yesterday when I called for the upgrade...
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jefe @ 23rd Jun 08:31AM:
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I never found out what that is all about. However, this morning I spoke to a really helpful rep at Verizon's East Islip call center. I wound up going for the 30/20 plan + Showtime (my wife is a nurse and needs to see Nurse Jackie :-D) for $10/mo more than I was paying on my last bundle. I had 20/5 without Showtime previously, and I went from $94.99 to $104.99, extending my contract a year from today.

The changes took effect almost immediately and here's my first speed test:



I'm smiling :D
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kdwycha @ 23rd Jun 08:33AM:
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YAY! Ordered my 15/5 service on the telephone by contacting billing. They were having issues with the order system yesterday both in the billing department and online and that is why my online orders didnt go through.

Now my order shows up on the order status and hopefully I will have my new speeds sometime today.

5 minute call turned into 30 minutes though with the guy trying to sell me 3 or 4 different things and he wouldnt stfu about it :P
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 08:45AM:
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said by kdwycha :

YAY! Ordered my 15/2 service on the telephone by contacting billing. They were having issues with the order system yesterday both in the billing department and online and that is why my online orders didnt go through.

Now my order shows up on the order status and hopefully I will have my new speeds sometime today.

5 minute call turned into 30 minutes though with the guy trying to sell me 3 or 4 different things and he wouldnt stfu about it :P
I have 2 questions since you and I are in the same Tampa market:
1. Isn't the speed upgrade 10/2 to 15/5, not 15/2?
2. What is the price increase for the speed upgrade (it looks to me like $10)?
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Buglewe @ 23rd Jun 08:50AM:
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said by kdwycha :

YAY! Ordered my 15/2 service on the telephone by contacting billing. They were having issues with the order system yesterday both in the billing department and online and that is why my online orders didnt go through.

Now my order shows up on the order status and hopefully I will have my new speeds sometime today.

5 minute call turned into 30 minutes though with the guy trying to sell me 3 or 4 different things and he wouldnt stfu about it :P
Lucky you, it seems that my online order yesterday didnt go through. I spend about 30 minutes on the phone with the rep this morning to upgrade to the 25/15. I check online for the order status and there was nothing
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jefe @ 23rd Jun 08:52AM:
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I had the same issue here on Long Island....my online order yesterday never went through. The status showed "fallout" at 25% completion.

This morning I had much better results talking to a rep that is here on Long Island. My speed tier change happened within 10 minutes of getting off the phone. Still waiting for Showtime to become available but I'm assuming that will happen today. If not...I'll be calling Ms. Perez back. ;)
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dariena @ 23rd Jun 08:59AM:
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On the phone now doing my upgrade, they said it should be completed by around noon so I'll do some speed tests then...
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jefe @ 23rd Jun 09:02AM:
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If your results are the same as mine were this morning, you'll see the speed increase in 10 or 15 minutes.
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dariena @ 23rd Jun 09:09AM:
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yup you're right... I just tried to remote back in to my home pc's and couldn't connect for a few minutes, got back in ran the speed tests and the upgrade is already there. Sweet.
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v4npro @ 23rd Jun 09:11AM:
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Yay! Error in their billing system is prohibiting my new speeds to kick in... their submitting a ticket to get it fixed and would take up to 24 hours.. another day without new speeds :/

Edit: Also this rep said a $10 more increase. The two rep's I talked to yesterday said no price increase... I love verizon billing.

Worth a $10 increase? 20/5- 25/15?
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kdwycha @ 23rd Jun 09:17AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Gary A :

said by kdwycha :

YAY! Ordered my 15/2 service on the telephone by contacting billing. They were having issues with the order system yesterday both in the billing department and online and that is why my online orders didnt go through.

Now my order shows up on the order status and hopefully I will have my new speeds sometime today.

5 minute call turned into 30 minutes though with the guy trying to sell me 3 or 4 different things and he wouldnt stfu about it :P
I have 2 questions since you and I are in the same Tampa market:
1. Isn't the speed upgrade 10/2 to 15/5, not 15/2?
2. What is the price increase for the speed upgrade (it looks to me like $10)?
I corrected the post to 15/5. I just have basic TV with no HD/Premiums and regular phone and internet.

I was told the price would remain the same 99 a month...same as the triple freedom I had before.

Also it seems to be provisioned and I am getting 25/17 or so as the speed. I have verified I ordered 15/5 and it does say that in the e-mail so I am happy.
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anon @ 23rd Jun 09:26AM:
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Orderd 25/15 yesterday afternoon, business rep said that it would probably take untill 5PM today for the new tier to hit, but I have not recived an e-mail and the order number is not found online.. Should i call?
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Acerone @ 23rd Jun 09:30AM:
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said by Fiosfan :

Orderd 25/15 yesterday afternoon, business rep said that it would probably take untill 5PM today for the new tier to hit, but I have not recived an e-mail and the order number is not found online.. Should i call?
I got my email about 3 hours after the call... And it didn't take long for the 25/15 to show up... About 5 minutes it all started.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 09:52AM:
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said by kdwycha :

said by Gary A :

said by kdwycha :

YAY! Ordered my 15/2 service on the telephone by contacting billing. They were having issues with the order system yesterday both in the billing department and online and that is why my online orders didnt go through.

Now my order shows up on the order status and hopefully I will have my new speeds sometime today.

5 minute call turned into 30 minutes though with the guy trying to sell me 3 or 4 different things and he wouldnt stfu about it :P
I have 2 questions since you and I are in the same Tampa market:
1. Isn't the speed upgrade 10/2 to 15/5, not 15/2?
2. What is the price increase for the speed upgrade (it looks to me like $10)?
I corrected the post to 15/5. I just have basic TV with no HD/Premiums and regular phone and internet.

I was told the price would remain the same 99 a month...same as the triple freedom I had before.

Also it seems to be provisioned and I am getting 25/17 or so as the speed. I have verified I ordered 15/5 and it does say that in the e-mail so I am happy.
THANKS! Well, now I'm confused. I just got off the VZ phone with a very nice CSR named Kathy. She confirmed exactly what I read in the new bundles. There was no *free* upgrade in speed for me - WTF?!? I too am on the basic triple play bundle (Premier package) with no premium movie channels for $95 a month. I don't get it!?!

How come you got a free speed upgrade at the $99 price and I don't at the $95 price? What *magic* words did you use?
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FiOS LIVE @ 23rd Jun 09:55AM:
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said by vzguy1 :

Just so everyone understands(based on the results of some of the test results I think its clear)

if you got the 25/15 you could get results up to 25/25

if you got 35/20 you could get results up to 35/35

If you got 15/5 you could get results up to 25/25 (not a typo)

If you are getting anything greater it could be because of the test server or by mistake you were provisioned on the 50/20 tier. I believe the latter being the main problem. :-)

Have fun everyone with your new speeds and if you didn't get it this round hopefully the next one in August will be better :-)
said by vzguy1 :

Negative on the 35/35....that will stay in Downstate NY only. The 25/25 will be the norm in August though.
I could have seen that one coming with 35/35 in D-NY only.

vzguy1, will the 25/25 be an additional tier and not replace 25/15? If so, will it also have additional bandwidth making get results up to 35/35 or possibly even 45/45 since 15/5 can get so much higher additional?
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mangoSNJ @ 23rd Jun 10:10AM:
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So today I'm getting this:



Again, everyone tells me im on the 25/15 plan LOL
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herbyscrub @ 23rd Jun 10:17AM:
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Manhattan, NY 10002...

Original Plan: 20/5 + HDExtreme for $79.99

Upgraded: 25/15 + HDExtreme for $84.99 ($64.99 after discounts)
+ free HBO & Cinemax with other stuff until Sept. 22 (I just finished the two month trial of this too)
Also...the nice lady did a valued customer $10 monthly discount for a year. (I've only had this account for two months lol)
I also had an existing $10 off monthly when I signed up, just kept talking til the CSR's manager approved the discount.
Had to extend my contract from today until one year from now.
Speed increased about 5 minutes after I got off the phone at 9:30AM EST.

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jmn1207 @ 23rd Jun 10:30AM:
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Has anyone posted the results of a sustained upload with the 25/15 plan that show speed test results over 20Mbps? I'm looking for the fastest upload speeds I can get, and if 25/15 is faster than my 50/20 plan in uploads, I'd gladly make the switch, but only if some proof is provided that these upload speeds are sustainable, and not just "SpeedTest.net" anomalies.

I don't trust the speed test sites. I can get over 75Mbps download results using a Playstation 3, which is grossly inaccurate. When I use real files and allow the download and/or upload to go on for 90 seconds or more, I almost always see 50Mbps and 20Mbps (minus typical overhead) for the average transfer rates.

I suspect that many people actually have 25/25 provisioned for their 25/15 plan, but I'd like some legitimate proof outside of the typical speed tests.

Uploads are more important than downloads for me, and while there was $20 difference in price between 20/20 and 50/20, it seemed like a reasonable price to performance increase to go with the faster plan. Now with higher uploads being seen on a plan with a lower cost, I'm certainly going to go with a cheaper plan if it outperforms my current tier in upload potential.
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lmchu @ 23rd Jun 10:35AM:
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I'm with you, I'm on 20/20 and all the speed test sites show I'm on target rumors of august adjustments will wait and see.


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fobinator @ 23rd Jun 10:35AM:
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said by BLUNTED 1 :

You can only get 35/20 on a triple play from what the reps told me so that sucks. I dont want 25/15 GRRR
Not true, I signed up for flex double play online yesterday for Extreme HD and 35/20 for $95
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BLUNTED 1 @ 23rd Jun 10:37AM:
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I want internet only but they dont off that alone they said and they person I spoke with said triple play only so maybe I should call again and see if they can do something.
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aaronwt @ 23rd Jun 10:57AM:
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said by fobinator :

said by BLUNTED 1 :

You can only get 35/20 on a triple play from what the reps told me so that sucks. I dont want 25/15 GRRR
Not true, I signed up for flex double play online yesterday for Extreme HD and 35/20 for $95
I really wish they would offer those speeds across the country. I would change to that plan if that were the case.

Are there supposed to be any plans to change the tier to that speed in August? If there is I might go ahead and sign up for the 25/15 plan with Extreme HD in antcipation of it being changed to 35/20.
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VirtualSlew @ 23rd Jun 11:05AM:
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I understand that many of you are excited about the new internet speeds, but at what point are you paying for bandwidth you don't need or can't even utilize for that matter. I for one would be interested in a a lower tiered package. I certainly don't need 10,15, or even 25Mbs upload speeds. In fact, I can live with 5 down and 2 up. I would like to see more tiers with some lower speeds with lower prices. I'm more interested in lowering my bill than uploading at 25Mbs. Verizon, if you're listening, give your customers a choice of how much bandwidth they need. Someone that simply reads email and surfs web pages certainly doesn't need more than 5Mbs of bandwidth. Let's see a 5/2 + TV bundle for $55.
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BLUNTED 1 @ 23rd Jun 11:05AM:
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I don't know why they wouldn't offer speed as internet only if someone wanted it. Just sounds like they want to suck people into a package deal for a year
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Nezmo @ 23rd Jun 11:09AM:
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said by VirtualSlew :

I understand that many of you are excited about the new internet speeds, but at what point are you paying for bandwidth you don't need or can't even utilize for that matter. I for one would be interested in a a lower tiered package. I certainly don't need 10,15, or even 25Mbs upload speeds. In fact, I can live with 5 down and 2 up. I would like to see more tiers with some lower speeds with lower prices. I'm more interested in lowering my bill than uploading at 25Mbs. Verizon, if you're listening, give your customers a choice of how much bandwidth they need. Someone that simply reads email and surfs web pages certainly doesn't need more than 5Mbs of bandwidth. Let's see a 5/2 + TV bundle for $55.
I can see your point. In my case, I work from home and access my remote desktop over my connection. The fast speeds are perfect for my needs. I'm probably not using the full bandwidth even then but the fast down and up speeds certainly means I don't have any bottlenecks at my end.
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Nezmo @ 23rd Jun 11:10AM:
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said by BLUNTED 1 :

I don't know why they wouldn't offer speed as internet only if someone wanted it. Just sounds like they want to suck people into a package deal for a year
Maybe they are trying to make money... recurring revenue streams are good for the bottom line ;)
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VirtualSlew @ 23rd Jun 11:13AM:
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said by Nezmo :

said by VirtualSlew :

I understand that many of you are excited about the new internet speeds, but at what point are you paying for bandwidth you don't need or can't even utilize for that matter. I for one would be interested in a a lower tiered package. I certainly don't need 10,15, or even 25Mbs upload speeds. In fact, I can live with 5 down and 2 up. I would like to see more tiers with some lower speeds with lower prices. I'm more interested in lowering my bill than uploading at 25Mbs. Verizon, if you're listening, give your customers a choice of how much bandwidth they need. Someone that simply reads email and surfs web pages certainly doesn't need more than 5Mbs of bandwidth. Let's see a 5/2 + TV bundle for $55.
I can see your point. In my case, I work from home and access my remote desktop over my connection. The fast speeds are perfect for my needs. I'm probably not using the full bandwidth even then but the fast down and up speeds certainly means I don't have any bottlenecks at my end.
Remote Desktop (RDP) protocol requires very little bandwidth. You're only getting screen refreshes and sending mouse clicks/movements and keyboard strokes. I used to RDP on a dialup. It certainly wasn't ideal, but it was usable. This is what I mean about buying bandwidth you dont' need. How often is anyone going to utilize 35Mbs down or 25Mbs up. Perhaps for short instances, you'll get things done more quickly, but I'm talking about sustained usage. Most of us are forced to buy bandwidth we don't need. That's my only point.
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BLUNTED 1 @ 23rd Jun 11:18AM:
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Guess I have to wait till the next upgrade to see what they do :(
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fobinator @ 23rd Jun 11:19AM:
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said by BLUNTED 1 :

I want internet only but they dont off that alone they said and they person I spoke with said triple play only so maybe I should call again and see if they can do something.
Have you tried doing it online? I logged onto my account and I see the a la carte option to change my internet to 35/20 for $69 with 1 yr agreement

Fobinator
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v4npro @ 23rd Jun 11:35AM:
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said by VirtualSlew :

I understand that many of you are excited about the new internet speeds, but at what point are you paying for bandwidth you don't need or can't even utilize for that matter. I for one would be interested in a a lower tiered package. I certainly don't need 10,15, or even 25Mbs upload speeds. In fact, I can live with 5 down and 2 up. I would like to see more tiers with some lower speeds with lower prices. I'm more interested in lowering my bill than uploading at 25Mbs. Verizon, if you're listening, give your customers a choice of how much bandwidth they need. Someone that simply reads email and surfs web pages certainly doesn't need more than 5Mbs of bandwidth. Let's see a 5/2 + TV bundle for $55.
I agree,, I think customers should choose their own plans / speeds , this goes for alot other services.. like cell phone providers.. I don't use all my minutes at the cheapest plan so why do I have to pay that full price? pay to go is risky...

It should be the same with internet, choose what speed you want.. what channels. A good idea I think, but will never happen since companys wants to make money money money, is that.. : A. If you don't want a contract you pay the same(as contract people) for the services(tv, internet, phone) but you have to pay monthly for the STB's. or B. If you go on contract depending on 1 or 2 years, STB's are free for that contract up to certain amount say any more than 3 you pay for the additional.

Anyway, hopefully I get FLUFF with my new speeds once they kick in (2days later).
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 11:57AM:
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said by VirtualSlew :

I understand that many of you are excited about the new internet speeds, but at what point are you paying for bandwidth you don't need or can't even utilize for that matter. I for one would be interested in a a lower tiered package. I certainly don't need 10,15, or even 25Mbs upload speeds. In fact, I can live with 5 down and 2 up. I would like to see more tiers with some lower speeds with lower prices. I'm more interested in lowering my bill than uploading at 25Mbs. Verizon, if you're listening, give your customers a choice of how much bandwidth they need. Someone that simply reads email and surfs web pages certainly doesn't need more than 5Mbs of bandwidth. Let's see a 5/2 + TV bundle for $55.
First, let me start by saying that I totally agree with you. The way I use my internet connection, I probably don't need the higher speeds either. Its all in how you/I/we use our connections. To some its extremely important, to others, not so much.

I am about lowering my monthly expenses and these new bundles don't work for me. But, have you read the front page article Karl wrote this morning? VZ is trying a new marketing strategy - not competing on price.

It will take a few months to see if this new marketing approach works or not. If they continue to sign new customers and don't lose too many existing customers, they will continue on this path. If their bottom line shows they are losing more customers, then they may have to back off this approach and go back to competing on price.

I have until Sept when my 2-yr agreement ends, so I'll just continue to monitor the situation until then. At this point, I am not willing to pay an additional $25 per month for the *Better* bundle. I'll continue to pay $95 for 10/2 internet, Premier TV & land phone. When my current agreement ends, I will have to make a decision - go month-to-month for $132.97, sign up for the *Better* bundle at $120, or go back to Brighthouse cable.

I can only hope that between now and Sept, VZ comes out with different, lower priced bundles, but I'm not holding my breath. The risk I am taking by doing this is that they may actually come out with new, more expensive bundles than the ones just announced. For example, before these new bundles, I could have upgraded my bundle to 20/5 internet and Extreme HD for only $10, but I passed on that deal, expecting a better one would follow. Well now, it turns out that was a dumb decision on my part. :(

Here's the link to Karl's article: »Verizon Stops Seriously Competing On Price
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alucard2x @ 23rd Jun 11:58AM:
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I just called and upgraded my speed from 20/5 to 25/15 and there was a price increase of $11.

Before:


After:

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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 12:04PM:
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said by fobinator :

said by BLUNTED 1 :

I want internet only but they dont off that alone they said and they person I spoke with said triple play only so maybe I should call again and see if they can do something.
Have you tried doing it online? I logged onto my account and I see the a la carte option to change my internet to 35/20 for $69 with 1 yr agreement

Fobinator
I saw this a la carte option too, but wasn't sure what would happen with my bundle pricing or my 2-yr agreement. Does it break your bundle? Do you start a new 1-yr agreement from the order date? Is there any downside to doing it this way that isn't explained on the website?

*You don't know, what you don't know* and that scares me.
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BLUNTED 1 @ 23rd Jun 12:05PM:
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You know I didnt check and I will now

EDIT : The option for 35/20 is not an option online for internet only
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VirtualSlew @ 23rd Jun 12:06PM:
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I did read about Vz not seriously competing on price. When my current commitment is up, I will be dropping the phone service in favor of a Pay as you Go Voip service. For $1 per month and $0.01 per minute for inbound and outbound calls, I will save plenty. I will also be threatening to go to the competition at which point I would assume I will be offered incentives/discounts as I was earlier this year. I have no desire to have my bill increased and am willing to take a lower tier to get it.
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almahix @ 23rd Jun 12:14PM:
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said by SoCalDude :

I'm trying to look at the prices online, but every time I enter my Verizon home number, I get this page. I used to be able to get in. Any one know why I keep getting this page?
We have never been able to order online in CA. I don't know why that is, but it is. If you call and order, insist upon the online order credit. I don't see how they can deny that when it isn't possible in the first place.

BTW, I called yesterday and it would have cost me $25/mo more to upgrade my current triple freedom bundle w/extreme hd, 20/5 and all premiums, so I declined. My contract is up in October, so we'll see what August brings.
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Buglewe @ 23rd Jun 12:21PM:
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said by VirtualSlew :

I did read about Vz not seriously competing on price. When my current commitment is up, I will be dropping the phone service in favor of a Pay as you Go Voip service. For $1 per month and $0.01 per minute for inbound and outbound calls, I will save plenty. I will also be threatening to go to the competition at which point I would assume I will be offered incentives/discounts as I was earlier this year. I have no desire to have my bill increased and am willing to take a lower tier to get it.
Cablevision offer me their triple play package for $69.99. I am really tempted to take it but I hate the lack of channel that they have to offer. If they offered TV One, TBN and other relgious channels then I would switch. I really dont care about the internet speed.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 12:35PM:
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said by VirtualSlew :

I did read about Vz not seriously competing on price. When my current commitment is up, I will be dropping the phone service in favor of a Pay as you Go Voip service. For $1 per month and $0.01 per minute for inbound and outbound calls, I will save plenty. I will also be threatening to go to the competition at which point I would assume I will be offered incentives/discounts as I was earlier this year. I have no desire to have my bill increased and am willing to take a lower tier to get it.
Again, I understand where you are coming from and I agree with you totally. Unfortunately, VZs latest bundle pricing sends a message - I'm afraid customers like you and I are going to have to accept the fact that VZ doesn't really have any interest in offering us any incentives to stay. They are only interested in customers who buy the high-end tiers, lots of STBs & HD DVRs and premium movie packages.
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Belspur @ 23rd Jun 12:38PM:
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Hello Gary A,

I going to try this afternoon. I am at UCF right now.

I have the Triple Play 20/5 and the move package for $30.00.

I still have MR DVR Free until October.

Will see what happens.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 12:40PM:
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said by Belspur :

Hello Gary A,

I going to try this afternoon. I am at UCF right now.

I have the Triple Play 20/5 and the move package for $30.00.

I still have MR DVR Free until October.

Will see what happens.
Good luck! :) I hope you can find something that works out for you.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 12:42PM:
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said by BLUNTED 1 :

You know I didnt check and I will now

EDIT : The option for 35/20 is not an option online for internet only
I wasn't sure if you currently had a bundle or were internet only.

Oops, my bad. I just went back and read one of your earlier posts that you were looking for internet only.
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Belspur @ 23rd Jun 12:51PM:
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We in Florida are getting hosed.

It's gonna cost me $12.00 to upgrade on-line.

Chat is next. Then a phone call.

Oh well, I will have to wait until October when my 1 year is up.

I was all excited about the new speeds.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 12:55PM:
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said by Belspur :

We in Florida are getting hosed.

It's gonna cost me $12.00 to upgrade on-line.

Chat is next. Then a phone call.

Oh well, I will have to wait until October when my 1 year is up.

I was all excited about the new speeds.
Same conclusion I came to.. except I used a stronger word than *hosed*. :D
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guppy_fish @ 23rd Jun 12:55PM:
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My cost was 10 bucks to go from 20/5 to 25/15 ( really 25 )

went from 109.99 to 119.99 for Pots & 20/5 & Extreme

chat can't do any thing with your account, its only a question/answer thing
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BLUNTED 1 @ 23rd Jun 12:55PM:
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Its cool didn't even think of looking there but now I know I can check there too :p
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 01:00PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

My cost was 10 bucks to go from 20/5 to 25/15 ( really 25 )

went from 109.99 to 119.99 for Pots & 20/5 & Extreme

chat can't do any thing with your account, its only a question/answer thing
Yeah, that's the difference between your situation and mine. You're looking at a starting cost of 109.99, whereas I'm looking at a starting cost of $94.99.
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guppy_fish @ 23rd Jun 01:00PM:
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said by Gary A :

Same conclusion I came to.. except I used a stronger word than *hosed*. :D
You have two issues, you two year price is coming to an end, that's 15 dollar increase, no price last forever and they keep giving more HD channels so its not unexpected ... just look at what Bright house offers, 35 compressed HD channels vs FIOS 100+ uncompressed ... forget ever looking at internet for comparison ... Bright house is stuck in the 90's

Its 10 bucks to get 5X more upload , maybe not worth it to you but hardly could be considered getting hosed
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dfiler @ 23rd Jun 01:19PM:
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I just upgraded my FiOS account via the verizon website.

My 10/2 plan was 42.99 with a yearly contract.
The new 15/5 plan is 44.99 with a new yearly contract.
No change over fees.

I think the above pricing is already discounted $5 because I also have FiOS phone service.

These prices are for Wilkinsburg PA.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 01:33PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

said by Gary A :

Same conclusion I came to.. except I used a stronger word than *hosed*. :D
You have two issues, you two year price is coming to an end, that's 15 dollar increase, no price last forever and they keep giving more HD channels so its not unexpected ... just look at what Bright house offers, 35 compressed HD channels vs FIOS 100+ uncompressed ... forget ever looking at internet for comparison ... Bright house is stuck in the 90's

Its 10 bucks to get 5X more upload , maybe not worth it to you but hardly could be considered getting hosed
I see your point and I agree with you. I'm looking at $94.99 which is 2007 dollars and no, no price lasts forever. I signed up for 2 years knowing that I would be here for at least that long and I wanted to lock in the price for as long as I could.

Facing the end of that 2-yr agreement and looking at the current prices is a shock to my brain. The size of the increase surprised me.

I also look at the deals the folks in the NY area are getting (because of more competition) and that bugs me, but I'm not moving to NY. ;)
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aefstoggaflm @ 23rd Jun 01:47PM:
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said by Cyberian75 :

Where can I find the live chat link?
I am not sure, but how about try this..

#1 Go to »www22.verizon.com/Residential/Su···ntactUs/

#2 For Call us:

a) Select OR as the state.

b) Select Product / Bill Inquiry as the service.

#3 And press go.

This is a sample screen of what I got.

[att=1]

[EDIT] PS. I may matter the day and time, when you do this...
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Please use the "yellow (IM) envelope" to contact me and please leave the URL intact.

Click for full size
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guppy_fish @ 23rd Jun 01:47PM:
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So its less than a buck a day for more and better HD and faster internet ... ( your 25 buck increase )

I understand the wanting a deal thinking, but I find it equally important not to focus on the price but the relative value to what other providers would have.

The options I have to my home, nothing touches FIOS, cable or Satellite in every ways is less. Its not the Hyundai pricing yes, its does cost a bit more, yes ... is it worth it? heck ya, the TV and Internet get a lot of use in our household and Me and the family are worth it :)
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almahix @ 23rd Jun 01:51PM:
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said by aefstoggaflm :

said by Cyberian75 :

Where can I find the live chat link?
I am not sure, but how about try this..

#1 Go to »www22.verizon.com/Residential/Su···ntactUs/

#2 For Call us:

a) Select OR as the state.

b) Select Product / Bill Inquiry as the service.

#3 And press go.

This is a sample screen of what I got.

[att=1]

[EDIT] PS. I may matter the day and time, when you do this...
In CA, there is no Live Chat option, just the other 3.
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fnnews @ 23rd Jun 02:13PM:
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No, I am in CA, and just finish the live chat. But you might need to sign in to your account first.
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almahix @ 23rd Jun 02:25PM:
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said by fnnews :

No, I am in CA, and just finish the live chat. But you might need to sign in to your account first.
I logged in to My Verizon, selected 'online support' then 'contact us', and I do not get a live chat selection.
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Agrajag @ 23rd Jun 02:39PM:
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No joy here. My 20/5 plan to move to 25/15 will cost me another $15 a month. No thanks. They can keep it.

I got the Live Chat option and the rep said I had to call Billing and provided an 800 number.
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kingspud @ 23rd Jun 02:48PM:
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Just got my upgrade after a phone call to VZ because my web order does not exist in the system. Not shocking. Went from 20/20 to 35/20. Getting 35/30. Go figure.


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fnnews @ 23rd Jun 03:23PM:
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Almahix:

1. once you logged into your account and select "Online Support",

2. on the next screen, select "Internet" option

3. on next screen, select "Billing" under Categories (The Categories is on the middle of screen, it includes: General support, Email, Billing...... but you need to select Billing)

4. Next screen, in the bottom of middle, select "FIOS internet contact us"

5. Next screen, you will see the "Live Chat" option. It will show "Available" if the live chat agent is available. If not, it might be the agent is not there.
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fnnews @ 23rd Jun 03:27PM:
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Sorry Almahix, that live chat is for Technical support only. I forget where to get the billing chat. I will find out if I remember where to get it!
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SparkChaser @ 23rd Jun 03:48PM:
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said by Agrajag :

No joy here. My 20/5 plan to move to 25/15 will cost me another $15 a month. No thanks. They can keep it.
It's probably the same here across the river from you. I'll pass on that and wait until the contract is almost up and see what I can get.

It would be interesting to know how many upgrades they get. :hmm:
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fnnews @ 23rd Jun 04:05PM:
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Almahix:

I think aefstoggaflm post the article is correct!

Just follow his instruction and I can get the live chat. However, during my trial, sometimes it does not work and only show text information for the phone number. I have to try several times and then got the live chat screen.
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Cyberian75 @ 23rd Jun 04:07PM:
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Thanks. The ONT had to be rebooted for me to see new speeds. Now I'm getting around 8MB/s upstream and 22MB/s downstream.
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deblin @ 23rd Jun 04:13PM:
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said by Cyberian75 :

Thanks. The ONT had to be rebooted for me to see new speeds. Now I'm getting around 8MB/s upstream and 22MB/s downstream.
Er...you do mean Mb/s right? Megabit not Megabyte? I'm not aware of any ~175/65 FiOS tier. :)
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Cyberian75 @ 23rd Jun 04:28PM:
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said by deblin :

Er...you do mean Mb/s right? Megabit not Megabyte? I'm not aware of any ~175/65 FiOS tier. :)
Right. Heh :D
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NastyGrouch @ 23rd Jun 04:30PM:
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Whats wierd is how not everyone is getting the same deals, ny gets better deals but why, some areas you can only choose time warner, so its not like they are fighting off 4 companies, satelite is a threat to the entire USA. I would think they would agressivly give every state they are in the same great deals.

But im not going to complain at the moment, for 10 bucks more a month, i called in and 5 bucks off, so for only 10 bucks more instead of 15 i get 35/20 and the upload isnt 20 but 30 so how can i complain.

I get more HD channels, i never have to watch sd agian, ever.
And I have a blazing net with 35/30 with hddvr and 2 hd stb with extreme for 137 a month. thats a steal.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 04:33PM:
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Again, the happiest customers are from the NY area. :(
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Chaser @ 23rd Jun 04:34PM:
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said by NastyGrouch :

Whats wierd is how not everyone is getting the same deals, ny gets better deals but why, some areas you can only choose time warner, so its not like they are fighting off 4 companies, satelite is a threat to the entire USA. I would think they would agressivly give every state they are in the same great deals.

But im not going to complain at the moment, for 10 bucks more a month, i called in and 5 bucks off, so for only 10 bucks more instead of 15 i get 35/20 and the upload isnt 20 but 30 so how can i complain.

I get more HD channels, i never have to watch sd agian, ever.
And I have a blazing net with 35/30 with hddvr and 2 hd stb with extreme for 137 a month. thats a steal.
It's because competition is more intense in those areas.

If the rumors are true, then the deals that NY and NJ currently receive should be available to the rest of the nation by August 16, I hope. Then again, in August, Verizon plans to increase the speeds again, plus it'll be symmetrical. We'll probably go through a similar process, again.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 04:36PM:
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said by Chaser :

If the rumors are true, then the deals that NY and NJ currently receive should be available to the rest of the nation by August, I hope.
Don't hold your breath. If they just announced the new bundles country-wide, I don't see them dropping the prices for the rest of us so soon, if ever.
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Flizesh @ 23rd Jun 04:47PM:
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Just bit the bullet and did it. Rep over the phone said it would cost me total $5 more per month ($94.99 plan to 99.99 plan) and I got 25/15... She also said my 1 free STB bonus would stay until its 12 months was up...


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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 04:52PM:
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Another happy New Yorker.
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darcilicious @ 23rd Jun 04:52PM:
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said by Chaser :

If the rumors are true, then the deals that NY and NJ currently receive should be available to the rest of the nation by August 16, I hope.
NNJ and NY have always gotten better deals (price-wise) than the rest of the markets. I wouldn't expect that to change in August.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 04:52PM:
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Nope, me neither.
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jefe @ 23rd Jun 04:58PM:
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We need better deals to make up for the high cost of living around here. :p
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DJMADfx @ 23rd Jun 05:00PM:
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said by jefe :

We need better deals to make up for the high cost of living around here. :p
That's for sure! We'll gladly trade housing costs with those in Florida! haha
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guppy_fish @ 23rd Jun 05:02PM:
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said by jefe :

We need better deals to make up for the high cost of living around here. :p
Yup no income tax, low property taxes ( compared to the North East ) here in Florida and some folks still whine about costs :uhh:
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Chaser @ 23rd Jun 05:03PM:
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said by darcilicious :

said by Chaser :

If the rumors are true, then the deals that NY and NJ currently receive should be available to the rest of the nation by August 16, I hope.
NNJ and NY have always gotten better deals (price-wise) than the rest of the markets. I wouldn't expect that to change in August.
I don't doubt that. That's why in August, NJ and NY will likely get another upgrade. We will hopefully be offered the same deals that they are currently getting, while NJ and NY will be upgraded to better deals.
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munson15 @ 23rd Jun 05:04PM:
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Wow! I just upgraded to the 35/20 tier this morning, and results I've been getting in online speed tests have been closer to 35/35. Simply incredible!


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birdfeedr @ 23rd Jun 05:18PM:
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Gary,

In the same boat with you. Someone said "yeah but there's so many more HD." Doesn't apply to me. SD only, and likely to stay that way for the near future. Kill my TV, then I'll probably go LCD.

You and I have the Premier TV package which does not exist anymore. My $105 Triple Freedom package with 20/5 and Premier TV was bundled with $13 discount for 2 year contract, plus 1 SD-STB=$97 per mo. Acceptable to me at that time, knowing I had 2 years.

Well, December is my trigger date. At this time, HD Extreme (which is meaningless to me) is the only way to get the speed bump (which I really don't need). So I'm going to ride it out towards December. Maybe see what happens in August, but I have no hopes of anything special at that time that will make me go "Wow, this is FiOS, this is big!"

So in December, after all the summer fuss has died down, I'm thinking Retention will have some way to let me keep my legacy bundle without too much of a price up.

The only consolation in all this was knowing I didn't have to wring my hands when the TV lineup and the corresponding price was bumped up last (when?) November? I had a 2-year at an acceptable price point.

When I go to Retention in December, I'll start with Cox Cable current triple play deal and ask if they can do something to keep me with FiOS.
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darcilicious @ 23rd Jun 05:20PM:
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I have a two year, non-bundled contract and am not paying more for Extreme HD than when I signed up for the Premier TV plan back in 12/07.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 05:52PM:
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said by birdfeedr :

Gary,

In the same boat with you.
At least I'm in good company! :) Since my 2-yr agreement is up in Sept., I'll have to let you know what, if anything, VZ is willing to do to keep me. Not much, I suspect.
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Gary A @ 23rd Jun 05:59PM:
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said by guppy_fish :

said by jefe :

We need better deals to make up for the high cost of living around here. :p
Yup no income tax, low property taxes ( compared to the North East ) here in Florida and some folks still whine about costs :uhh:
What you say about lower living costs in Florida is partly true. However, the recent jump in my homeowners' insurance policy more than wiped out all those savings combined. So yes, I whine about costs.

I also don't like paying for Florida Power's nuclear power plant before its even built. And if housing values have fallen so far in the last couple years when the market collapsed, why are my property taxes the same? So yes, I whine about costs.
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almahix @ 23rd Jun 07:45PM:
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Here, here!
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Mannus @ 23rd Jun 09:17PM:
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said by dfiler :

I just upgraded my FiOS account via the verizon website.

My 10/2 plan was 42.99 with a yearly contract.
The new 15/5 plan is 44.99 with a new yearly contract.
No change over fees.

I think the above pricing is already discounted $5 because I also have FiOS phone service.

These prices are for Wilkinsburg PA.
I have internet only (15/5 package) for 44.99. I am in NE Indiana
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jdrtech @ 23rd Jun 09:51PM:
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I love my new speeds, yahoooo! FiOS
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RolteC @ 23rd Jun 09:54PM:
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said by jdrtech :

I love my new speeds, yahoooo! FiOS
So what did you do to order? Just say you wanted the 35/20 speeds and now your paying $5 more a month?
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anon @ 23rd Jun 10:05PM:
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orderd yesterday, still nothing... talked to techman28 over at verizon forums and he said him asnd his people were taking care of it but still nothing, perpahs i need to reset my ont? how do i take out the battery?
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Agent Smith @ 23rd Jun 10:07PM:
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No need to reset try calling verizon again and read what plan you currently have and to give you a order # when you re order it.
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mario44222 @ 23rd Jun 10:12PM:
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Hm I still have 20/20 but I'm getting 20/10ish
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anon @ 23rd Jun 10:18PM:
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I ordered Monday morning and I am to still waiting for speed change. Reason for me for it to take so long is that there was an error on our service which wouldn't allow changes to it.. the error was found this morning and still hasn't been fixed....

Hopefully when the speeds go through, 2morrow, I get fluff in my speeds, 26/20.. :o then it would def. be worth the extra $10 for sure.
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jdrtech @ 23rd Jun 11:36PM:
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i called monday afternoon and verizon rep told be i should have the new speed by 5pm, she was right on i called my local verizon service center 718-890-1550 in NYC the new speed cost me 10 bucks more, im happy with it!
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Cyberian75 @ 24th Jun 12:06AM:
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Just reboot it.
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Agent Smith @ 24th Jun 12:16AM:
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Never mind i ordered it. It better not break my bundle -__- as learning from other readers post.
Click for full size
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anon @ 24th Jun 12:48AM:
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Anyone think the new 25/15 speeds will be available in MDUs (such as apartments)? I currently have the 20/5 service which runs a VDSL loop from the ONT in the communication closet in my building.

I hope so, but considering they never even offered 50/20 service, I'm not expecting much. Even more so because my VDSL modem doesn't look like it will get a link faster than ~6 Mbps up (and I'm directly above the communication closet):

P861H> vdsl port speed                                                          
VDSL status: up
Downstream line rate: 49600 kbps
Upstream line rate: 7296 kbps
Fast downstream payload rate: 0 kbps
Slow downstream payload rate: 40192 kbps
Fast upstream payload rate: 0 kbps
Slow upstream payload rate: 5824 kbps
Downstream delay: 8.5 ms
Upstream delay: 7.9 ms
Tx total power: 1.2 dBm


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jimboe @ 24th Jun 01:34AM:
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..wait a minute.. let me get this straight.

So, now, two of the 3 "lower" tiers (at least here in downstate NY), get 65% HIGHER upstream (test results seemingly showing 35mbps) than the supposed "top tier". "premier" FiOS internet customers?

Now that's just f'n ridiculous.

Someone over there needs to have their heads examined.

50/20 subs:
•Don't get bundle discounts
•Pay more for the tier

And are now getting significantly less on Upload, and maybe 33% more on download?

C'mon VZ! Get your shit together! We're paying the f'n premium for shits sake!
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Buglewe @ 24th Jun 08:47AM:
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I upgraded from 20/5 to 25/15

Nice


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BLUNTED 1 @ 24th Jun 09:03AM:
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I just did it too to see what 25/15 would get and got up to 33 mb up on another speedtest


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jmn1207 @ 24th Jun 09:15AM:
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I suspect that the reason the 50/20 tier is being given no love is probably due to the Cablevision 101/15 plan. Verizon was playing around with the idea of offering 75/25 as the upgrade to 50/20, but now they are probably having to rethink their strategy.

It looks like all of the new FiOS plans come with boost-like uploads. When I get back home I plan on doing some testing, and ultimately will probably drop down to the lowest available tier if that gets me the best or the same upload potential as any other tier. Since there is no 35/20 tier for my region, the 15/5 seems to offer the best upload performance, or at least it's just as good as any other tier available, and better than my 50/20 tier. :huh:
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fobinator @ 24th Jun 10:45AM:
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said by jlee :

Anyone think the new 25/15 speeds will be available in MDUs (such as apartments)? I currently have the 20/5 service which runs a VDSL loop from the ONT in the communication closet in my building.

I hope so, but considering they never even offered 50/20 service, I'm not expecting much. Even more so because my VDSL modem doesn't look like it will get a link faster than ~6 Mbps up (and I'm directly above the communication closet):

I live in an apartment and getting 35/20 (35/~30) just fine.
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UofMiamiGrad @ 24th Jun 11:42AM:
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said by fobinatorI live in an apartment and getting 35/20 (35/~30) just fine.
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Is your apartment VDSL or do you have your own ONT in your unit? That is what the OP needs to know!
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fobinator @ 24th Jun 12:17PM:
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said by UofMiamiGrad :

said by fobinatorI live in an apartment and getting 35/20 (35/~30) just fine.
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Is your apartment VDSL or do you have your own ONT in your unit? That is what the OP needs to know!
My bad, read through original post too quickly, I have my own ONT in my unit thus I am not qualified to answer his question. =p
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yohance @ 24th Jun 01:38PM:
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Bronx, NY here....

I had the $94.99 Triple bundle with extreme HD (6 month price) installed last week. They gave me the 20/20 internet ..so i was pretty happy with that...even though it was more like 19/14. However, I read on this forum about the speed upgrades...so I called them up yesterday.

In the end..i ended up getting the 25/15 internet upgrade and free HBO for $99.99 (taxes, 2 boxes, phone included) ..two year price garuntee. You can't beat that...plus I got some extra extra fluff..lol



^^^ wow!
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rmckofke @ 24th Jun 02:41PM:
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I'm currently on the 94.99 + 30.00 (movies) plan with 20/5 internet & phone. I see they have a "Best" triple play bundle for 129.99 which also seems to include "Premium Channels" - is that the Movies Package? If so, then if I renew to that bundle my price goes up $5.

I am getting a free HM DVR at the moment so Im guessing that will end if I renew, but I was planning on downgrading to a regular DVR to save a few bucks, so I think I'll wait until Sept or Oct and hope these bundles are still around then.

The netbook would've been nice for current customers too, maybe if they locked in for 2 years or something.
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almahix @ 24th Jun 04:25PM:
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said by rmckofke :

I'm currently on the 94.99 + 30.00 (movies) plan with 20/5 internet & phone. I see they have a "Best" triple play bundle for 129.99 which also seems to include "Premium Channels" - is that the Movies Package? If so, then if I renew to that bundle my price goes up $5.

I am getting a free HM DVR at the moment so Im guessing that will end if I renew, but I was planning on downgrading to a regular DVR to save a few bucks, so I think I'll wait until Sept or Oct and hope these bundles are still around then.

The netbook would've been nice for current customers too, maybe if they locked in for 2 years or something.
In California, the 129.99 package includes showtime, and maybe starz and encore. It excludes hbo and max. Their mention of 'premium channels' is misleading to say the least; it is not the familiar $30 package of everything. Nasty, misleading advertisement.
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Ancalagon @ 24th Jun 05:33PM:
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For those that updated their speed tier online, how long did it take for the change to go into effect? I'm showing an estimated effective date of tomorrow (Ordered at around 2:50PM today), but I don't know how accurate that is.
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zebibyte @ 24th Jun 05:58PM:
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Looks like a double play is available online and via chat, not a bad deal, but probably not worth the speed increase for $15/mo.

Just an FYI for other Oregon area users.

25/15 Internet, Extreme HD = $94.99/mo. Only promotion offered for upgrading was 3mo of free HBO.
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anon @ 24th Jun 08:28PM:
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Techman28 over at the verizon forums got everything striaght for me(great employee)

»www.speedtest.net/result/503238987.png
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ME432ME @ 24th Jun 10:00PM:
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so i'm in the NY area (long island with cablevision competition) and called about the 25/15 speed increase. i was told it was a completely new tier and that it'd cost me $70 unbundled with 1 year contract... i'm currently paying $58 grandfathered for my 20/5 unbundled month-to-month out of contract.

$70 a month for a mid tier? that's disgusting.

i don't see how i have any options now, optimum has their 15/2 plan for $30 a month for first 6 months then price jumps to $50, +$15 for 30/5 boost.

i can stay with verizon 20/5 grandfathered for $696 a year
i can throw away money at 25/15 for $840 a year
OR i can jump to cablevision for:
30/5 boost for $270 for 6 months/540+? a year if i cancelled and re-got service (depending on the wait time between getting new accounts, i could also just get verizon dsl in between reordering service)
or i could just keep boost for a year at $660

i'm only considering for the next year, but i was hoping being in new york would always give me a price edge like everyone always complained about... i don't feel special anymore.
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nickdigger @ 24th Jun 10:08PM:
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said by ME432ME :

i can stay with verizon 20/5 grandfathered for $696 a year
i can throw away money at 25/15 for $840 a year
OR i can jump to cablevision for 30/5 boost for [a year at $660]
... and then rejoin FIOS after a year & get a new netbook/TV/whatever.
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guppy_fish @ 24th Jun 10:28PM:
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Go with the 15/5 tier if your unbundled ... it appears to be similar to the 25/15 in actual performance and reported speed tests and is lower cost ... should perform as well as boost if not better
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anon @ 25th Jun 06:46AM:
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bronxlcsw @ 25th Jun 07:17AM:
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Who would have thunk just several years ago that the South Bronx would be the Broadband capital of the USA. The envy of the cyberworld. Come to the south bronx and you have a choice of OOL Ultra at 100mbs or Fios 35/25 service. Oh yeah how about Complete wifi 3mbs coverage in the south bronx. The Bronx is where you want to be if you crave broadband speeds.
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Agent Smith @ 25th Jun 09:27AM:
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well i get 35/20 aka 35/35 triple play bundle for only $129


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RolteC @ 25th Jun 09:48AM:
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I just ordered. Im happy. Got more for less, unlike what most are saying here. I wont get into specifics.

But I want wait till I see what my speed tests show.
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 09:57AM:
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Oh my god!!!!!


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Agent Smith @ 25th Jun 10:01AM:
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Lol? maybe you get a tiny bit more on NY server.
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 10:02AM:
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A tiny bit more....

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UofMiamiGrad @ 25th Jun 10:03AM:
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The 35/20 package is great. For only $10 more per month than what I was paying with the 20/20 triple play ($99/month) you get much faster speeds and I got Showtime now. Can't complain :D
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deblin @ 25th Jun 10:05AM:
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said by UofMiamiGrad :

and I got Showtime now. Can't complain :D
I believe the showtime thing is a promo for ~3 months. So be careful, if you don't call to cancel the promo in ~3 months or so, your bill will be going up $35/mo ;)
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Agent Smith @ 25th Jun 10:06AM:
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Heh i mean on the upload side but yea 35/35 is good hopefully they dont put it to 35/20 or /25.
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 10:09AM:
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Guys, I dont trust these speed tests anymore.

Is there anyone here in the NY area that is willing to test file transfers?

This is the only real way to determine speed.

I dont like how the upload goes no higher then 22/27Mbits a sec yet the results state 32Mbit/sec +
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Agent Smith @ 25th Jun 10:10AM:
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»ftp://ftp1.optonline.net/test512

Download.

For me it goes about 4.10Mb/sec
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 10:14AM:
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ftp: 536876032 bytes received in 124.55Seconds 4310.63Kbytes/sec.

But I want to send a file between me and another FiOS user on the 35/20 or 50/20 tier.

This way we all find out whats going on with the speeds.
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Agent Smith @ 25th Jun 10:16AM:
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If someone here has a server that would be good.
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deblin @ 25th Jun 10:19AM:
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I have a friend with a colo in New York and he is able to max out my 25 upstream. If you IM me a URL on your server to wget, I can test it out from his side...

Or if you have nc (netcat) we can test that way, too.
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 10:42AM:
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Its ok guys, I tested it.

We all have 35/35 lines.

The chart is crazy because its a send/receive I am doing to a few people. But when it evens out, the upload stays around 35-36Mbits/sec for me.
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deblin @ 25th Jun 10:51AM:
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Cool deal.

Actually, if you don't mind, when your line is idle, would you mind fetching a file from me and showing your graph? Let me know your IP via IM if you're interested, so I can setup wireshark/tcpdump to collect the traffic info. And I can IM you the file to grab. :)

Thanks!
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 11:00AM:
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Sure, I sent you a PM.
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jefe @ 25th Jun 11:02AM:
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I can max out my up and download bandwidth as advertised (new 35/20 tier, that tests at ~30/30), but it isn't easy.

I've found that a single ftp upload or download to my web server in San Francisco will max out at ~!80 kB/s. If I use IE8 to download a file from same server, I max see ~1 mB/s. If I download that same big file using Flashget I see 4.2 mB/s, about 33 mb/s.

I can max out my upstream to the same server using ftp too, but only with multiple transfers going at the same time.

So I'm satisfied I'm getting what I'm paying for from Verizon, and then some. How to best use it to advantage is still in development. :)
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deblin @ 25th Jun 11:03AM:
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You likely need to tweak. I'm not saying it'll make it so you can use a single download thread to max things out, but it certainly sounds like your connection is suffering per-connect due to the latency of going cross-country...
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jefe @ 25th Jun 11:10AM:
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I'm tweaked. I see pretty much the same results using an east coast server, like one from 1and1.

Do you see a significantly higher throughput using ftp? If so...which ftp client?
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deblin @ 25th Jun 11:11AM:
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said by jefe :

I'm tweaked. I see pretty much the same results using an east coast server, like one from 1and1.

Do you see a significantly higher throughput using ftp? If so...which ftp client?
It all depends on the host. My friend's colo in NY can grab (over http) from me at the full 25 Mbit/s speed, roughly.
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 11:17AM:
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Where did you get a 25/25 line though? Thats not even a package.

And after testing with deblin, I achieved 26.1Mbit/sec or around 2.98MB/sec from his connection constantly.

I still wish I could test MY upload.
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deblin @ 25th Jun 11:27AM:
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It's not a 25/25, it's the 25/15+fluff line which most are testing at 25/25 :)

Thanks for testing, seems I'm doing alright on the upstream side. I don't think everyone is seeing the "fluff" or at least not all of it. :huh:
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RolteC @ 25th Jun 11:29AM:
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No problem, now I see what you mean.

I cant wait till Verizon tells us we are only suppose to have 35/20 here, and not 35/35 , and then all of a sudden everyones speeds drop back down.

And no one can complain because the agreement was for 35/20!..

Wow verizon, you are doing a great thing, hyping your service up so everyone can say its MUCH faster then it is, but only for a short time, because I DOUBT it will remain this way for everyone.
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jefe @ 25th Jun 11:37AM:
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I've thought of that too. Human nature being what it is, we get spoiled easily.

I expect one day a speedtest will show me getting 35/20 intead of 33/30. And even though 35/20 is what I'm paying for, a feeling of disappointment on that day will be unavoidable. :p
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aaronwt @ 25th Jun 12:50PM:
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Those of us on the 50/20 tier are already disappointed!
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Agent Smith @ 25th Jun 12:54PM:
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Its been 34.5Down/32-34Up

all day.

Weres my fluff :D


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anon @ 25th Jun 12:59PM:
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There's been an error on our account thats allowing any changes to it.. so I can't get 25/15 until it gets fixed.. They submitted a referral to have it fixed on Tuesday and now its Thursday and the ticket is still pending. I got transferred to 3 other rep's which all did/said the same thing. Can't wait to see my bill next month.
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deblin @ 25th Jun 01:00PM:
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said by aaronwt :

Those of us on the 50/20 tier are already disappointed!
Yeah, I hope in August they show the 50/20 people some love. Because if upload is important to you, it sure seems like a raw deal that 25/15 people are seeing 25/25 and you're stuck with 20 (19). :huh:
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jefe @ 25th Jun 01:15PM:
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This is a little interesting. I am fooling around with Win 7 installed on a spare hard drive on my laptop. Here's a speedtest with it:



Yet with my working XP hard drive installed in the same machine:



Looks like Win 7 has auto-tweaked for download, as it's supposed to, but I don't know what to make of the difference in upstream. When I first ran that test I thought...ooops...they've caught to the "fluff" already. :p
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deblin @ 25th Jun 01:21PM:
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It's likely windows 7 has a higher default upstream TCP window size, but appears to not auto-tune the send window side.
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jmn1207 @ 25th Jun 01:36PM:
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said by jefe :

This is a little interesting. I am fooling around with Win 7 installed on a spare hard drive on my laptop. Here's a speedtest with it:



Yet with my working XP hard drive installed in the same machine:



Looks like Win 7 has auto-tweaked for download, as it's supposed to, but I don't know what to make of the difference in upstream. When I first ran that test I thought...ooops...they've caught to the "fluff" already. :p
Try using a non-Flash speed test or simply download and upload a large file to/from a fast server.
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jefe @ 25th Jun 01:44PM:
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I am going to do that, but historically I've found the speedtest.net tests to be pretty accurate when compared to real world large file tests.
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deblin @ 25th Jun 01:45PM:
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said by jefe :

I am going to do that, but historically I've found the speedtest.net tests to be pretty accurate when compared to real world large file tests.
Funny, I've found the opposite :) The speedtest.net results for me have never been accurate.
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jefe @ 25th Jun 01:48PM:
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You know the old saying....YRMV.
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Joel94974 @ 25th Jun 02:02PM:
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said by vpro :

There's been an error on our account thats not allowing any changes to it.. so I can't get 25/15 until it gets fixed.. They submitted a referral to have it fixed on Tuesday and now its Thursday and the ticket is still pending. I got transferred to 3 other rep's which all did/said the same thing. Can't wait to see my bill next month.
The exact same thing is happening with me. I'm in Thousand Oaks, CA.
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Chaser @ 25th Jun 02:33PM:
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said by RolteC :

No problem, now I see what you mean.

I cant wait till Verizon tells us we are only suppose to have 35/20 here, and not 35/35 , and then all of a sudden everyones speeds drop back down.

And no one can complain because the agreement was for 35/20!..

Wow verizon, you are doing a great thing, hyping your service up so everyone can say its MUCH faster then it is, but only for a short time, because I DOUBT it will remain this way for everyone.
Verizon is not doing it for you, they are doing it for themselves. They are using you to test out their new speeds. It's like beta testing a game. Having faster speeds is obviously better, but making customers "happy" by providing these faster speeds is probably the last thing on their minds. It's all about testing their system.

By the way, I remember chatting with a rep, and he said that the testing was being done on the East coast. Can anyone on the West coast confirm this?
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Acerone @ 25th Jun 02:35PM:
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Are any of you guys getting those fluff speeds on a Apple?
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Chaser @ 25th Jun 03:11PM:
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I think I'm beginning to understand what's going on with all the "fluff" and speeds and testing. Keep in mind, this is all "hypothetical".

Rumor 1: there will be a speed upgrade in mid August
Rumor 2: the new speeds will likely be symetrical: (25/25), (35/35)
Rumor 3: tests are being done on the East coast, but not the West coast
Rumor 4: in August, the "advertised" speeds and prices that NY and NJ currently receive will become available nationwide

Fact 1: people on the East coast are experiencing faster, symmetrical speeds than advertised
Fact 2: people on the West coast are receiving faster download speeds, but not upload (not symmetrical)
Fact 3: NY and NJ get better speeds and prices due to intense competition

Putting the rumors and facts together, it seems like in mid August, the people on the East coast will by upgraded to the symmetrical speeds of 25/25 or 35/35, while the rest of us will be upgraded to the "advertised" speed and price that they are receiving, I hope. When I say "advertised", I'm referring to the speeds and prices on this page that glinc posted (it would "obviously" be the lower speeds. For example: Good Bundle, 15/5 in NJ) :

Note: even though, those speeds are available, the prices are not. Hopefully, it'll be lowered to $99 in August.

»/speak/slidesh···MA%3D%3D
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Piranhaz @ 25th Jun 03:27PM:
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said by Chaser :

I think I'm beginning to understand what's going on with all the "fluff" and speeds and testing. Keep in mind, this is all "hypothetical".

Rumor 3: tests are being done on the East coast, but not the West coast
Rumor 4: in August, the "advertised" speeds and prices that NY and NJ currently receive will become available nationwide

Fact 1: people on the East coast are experiencing faster, symmetrical speeds than advertised
Fact 2: people on the West coast are receiving faster download speeds, but not upload (not symmetrical)

Putting the rumors and facts together, it seems like in mid August, the people on the East coast will by upgraded to the symmetrical speeds of 25/25 or 35/35, while the rest of us will be upgraded to the "advertised" speed and price that they are receiving, I hope. When I say "advertised", I'm referring to the speeds and prices on this page that glinc posted (it would "obviously" be the lower speeds. For example: Good Bundle, 15/5 in NJ) :
Guess you missed my earlier post, but I upgraded to 25/15 from 20/5 and am getting 25/25 speeds. So it's not just an East Coast thing. We have "fluff" over here too.

said by Piranhaz :

Okay, got my upgrade -




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Chaser @ 25th Jun 04:04PM:
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Well, so much for my theory. LOL
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aaronwt @ 25th Jun 04:48PM:
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But no fluff on my existing 50/20 tier. Actually negative fluff.
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Phil @ 25th Jun 05:38PM:
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egou @ 25th Jun 07:50PM:
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said by aaronwt :

But no fluff on my existing 50/20 tier. Actually negative fluff.
Ditto.
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DJMADfx @ 25th Jun 10:35PM:
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Anyone (in NY) get them to remove Showtime from the 35/20 bundle? The breakdown online shows that Showtime is actually $10/month. Effectively, that would bring the bundle down to $99/month with 35/20. I do see that someone said that they removed Showtime online (which I did do last night), but for some reason I think it was a bug as you can no longer do so.
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Agent Smith @ 25th Jun 11:04PM:
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Speed test here is not that good but speedtest.net is accurate for me.


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jpg @ 26th Jun 08:52AM:
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That was me - when I upgraded my internet plan online, I picked 35/20 and it automatically added Showtime which I promptly removed. The order went through and the confirmation showed only the Internet change. I never bothered to actually check if Showtime got added anyway, so I'll report back tonight when I get home.

Needless to say, if they added it anyway, I'll ask them to remove it or downgrade me back to 20/20.
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ky @ 26th Jun 03:01PM:
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Wow, those are some interesting bundle prices for NY. I currently pay 109.99 for my 20/5 Triple Freedom and the speed bump will cost an additional $10. Wish we had the same competitive pricing in WA.
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THoff @ 27th Jun 02:04AM:
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said by Piranhaz :

Guess you missed my earlier post, but I upgraded to 25/15 from 20/5 and am getting 25/25 speeds. So it's not just an East Coast thing. We have "fluff" over here too.
It's not everywhere on the West Coast. I'm on the 20/5 plan in Southern California, and there is no fluff whatsoever, neither up nor down:


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darcilicious @ 27th Jun 02:07AM:
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The 20/5 doesn't get the fluff, if I remember the rest of the posts here correctly...
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dumbfound @ 27th Jun 05:04AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

So let me get this straight if I change my 20/20 plan to 25/15 I'll be on a 25/25 plan?

If so....
Will they reduce the 25/15 to actual speed when the 25/25 plan comes out? -- then if on the 25/15 can I change plan without penalty.

Thank you... =)
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bronxlcsw @ 27th Jun 06:49AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

As I said previously here in Pelham Bay the Bronx I placed my order over the internet on a sunday. By the following Tuesday i had the following speeds:
Click for full size
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tsskiller @ 27th Jun 05:01PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

As a fellow Pelham Bayer (if that even makes any sense), I upgraded the day the packages were available (to 15/5) and ended up receiving this:



Pretty good fluff I'd say.
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Agent Smith @ 27th Jun 05:03PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Like i said 25/25 and 35/35.
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SoCalDude @ 28th Jun 06:23AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Will the fluff on both the new tiers go away after the next upgrades in August?
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anon @ 29th Jun 11:09AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I called to upgrade only to find out that going from 20/5 to 25/15 will cost me $15 more a month. Ugh. Has anyone been successful in getting a lower price?
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v4npro @ 29th Jun 11:34AM:
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Was a free upgrade for me since we were already on a $139.99 bundle. BUT still waiting to get the speeds after last Monday ordering for it. A error on my account was found on Tuesday that dates back in 2006, which we didn't have fios till 2008, that was prohibiting any changes to the account to go through. The rep. said it would take 24/48 hrs to have it fixed after he sent in a ticket.. I've been calling them since Tuesday last week and here it is Monday the next week and still the error hasn't been fixed so on the phone with them again...... Worst experience yet with any TV/Internet company.
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darcilicious @ 29th Jun 11:40AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Senn :

I called to upgrade only to find out that going from 20/5 to 25/15 will cost me $15 more a month. Ugh. Has anyone been successful in getting a lower price?
Generally speaking, the longer that it's been since your last upgrade, the more it will cost per month when you finally do upgrade... especially this time around.

Last year at this time, Internet speeds were a free upgrade; and some time last fall (with the release of the Extreme HD package) most people saved money (paid less) when the re-upped with the new bundle...
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Gary A @ 29th Jun 12:42PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by darcilicious :

Generally speaking, the longer that it's been since your last upgrade, the more it will cost per month when you finally do upgrade... especially this time around.

Last year at this time, Internet speeds were a free upgrade; and some time last fall (with the release of the Extreme HD package) most people saved money (paid less) when the re-upped with the new bundle...
I would totally agree with your assessment. That seems to be the situation I am in. Before these most recent bundle prices, I was in my local Verizon Plus store upgrading a STB to HD and the CSR asked if I wanted to upgrade to 20/5 and Extreme HD for $10 more per month. I said no, thinking I'd wait for a better deal.

We all see how that decision worked out for me. :huh: Now I'm looking at a $25 per month increase to do the same thing. I was soooo smart!?!

All I can do now is watch the Brighthouse cable ads to see what their prices are in September when my 2-yr agreement with VZ is up. Maybe I'll be able to get a better deal from VZ Retention. Or, maybe not.
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guppy_fish @ 29th Jun 02:05PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Brighthouse in our area has less than 30 HD channels , internet speeds top tier are slower than the new 15/5 tier ...Sure it might cost less ... but your also going to get less
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sddsl @ 29th Jun 02:07PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I have 20/5 on the $99 triple play in new york. Can I go down to 15/5 to save money?
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Chaser @ 29th Jun 02:09PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by sddsl :

I have 20/5 on the $99 triple play in new york. Can I go down to 15/5 to save money?
I may be incorrect, but I don't think that they offer 15/5 in your area.
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sddsl @ 29th Jun 02:15PM:
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oh that might be true, I know they never had the lowest tier. But I thought there was a lower tier than mine in my area. Maybe it was 15/2. I am all confused now :/
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darcilicious @ 29th Jun 02:17PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Go here: »https://www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/Go···ion.aspx

Enter your Vz phone number. It will show you exactly what you can get for what price.
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sddsl @ 29th Jun 03:14PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

It says I can 25/15 for the same price as my current 20/5. If I upgrade, does it extend my contract? If it doesn't I guess I'll do the upgrade. Not that I'll use the bandwidth, but it can't hurt.
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darcilicious @ 29th Jun 03:21PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by sddsl :

If I upgrade, does it extend my contract?
Typically, yes.
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Chaser @ 29th Jun 03:21PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by sddsl :

It says I can 25/15 for the same price as my current 20/5. If I upgrade, does it extend my contract? If it doesn't I guess I'll do the upgrade. Not that I'll use the bandwidth, but it can't hurt.
Yes, it will renew your contract, or so I've heard. If the extra speed isn't going to do you any good, then I'd wait for August before making any changes, just to be on the safe side.
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RScottyL @ 29th Jun 03:41PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Yeah, I just checked, and it looks like it will go up $10/month to go from 20/5 to 25/15!

Darn!
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anon @ 29th Jun 03:49PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Same here in Kirkland, WA $10 more for the 25/15 over my 20/5 package.
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Gary A @ 29th Jun 05:08PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by guppy_fish :

Brighthouse in our area has less than 30 HD channels , internet speeds top tier are slower than the new 15/5 tier ...Sure it might cost less ... but your also going to get less
I know. :DI'm just trying to find a good argument to use when I talk to VZ. :uhh:
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Belspur @ 29th Jun 05:28PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Gary A,

Hang in there brother. I am with you. :D

Gonna wait and see.
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Raphion @ 29th Jun 05:31PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Agent Smith :

»ftp://ftp1.optonline.net/test512

Download.

For me it goes about 4.10Mb/sec
I got 3MB/sec here in Florida with 15/5. Held steady as it could possibly be at 27Mbps, and finished in 2 mins, 50 secs. Can't complain too much when a 15Mbps line runs 27 :D
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Raphion @ 29th Jun 05:54PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

15/5 tier test results from NY to FL on Windows XP with send and receive window sizes fattened up to 524288:


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Gary A @ 29th Jun 06:39PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Belspur :

Gary A,

Hang in there brother. I am with you. :D

Gonna wait and see.
As I replied to darcilicious above, I waited too long. I gambled there would be better deals (read cheaper) not worse ones. I should have taken the upgrade back in March when I had the chance. :huh:
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SoCalDude @ 29th Jun 07:48PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

15/5 seems to be the same as the 25/15 lol. Do you think the fluff will eventually go away?
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Raphion @ 29th Jun 08:41PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by SoCalDude :

15/5 seems to be the same as the 25/15 lol. Do you think the fluff will eventually go away?
I hope not. :D I hope that the speed I have now will actually be the new advertised floor tier in August.
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Drunkula @ 29th Jun 08:44PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle! I could have sworn I HAD 20/5 service. I just called to upgrade. My "area" is 15 meg max. I can't upgrade, not to mention I'm not getting what I thought I had!
:mad:


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Gordo74 @ 1st Jul 09:17AM:
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Looks like I'm the only one getting the exact advertised speeds at my tier, 25/15. Hah.
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frankpf3 @ 1st Jul 09:19AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I upgraded from 20 / 20 to 35 / 20 and I am receiving 35 / 35 testing with mySpeed.com.

I spoke to a tech about this and he says you are still billed as 35 / 20 but the provision is set up as 35 / 35.
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jul 09:24AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

My prediction for the August update for the 50/20 tier: 75/25 with a $5 price increase.

I did manage to call the latest round of upgrades correctly, so perhaps I will continue my streak. :D
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Acerone @ 1st Jul 10:15AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Gordo74 :



Looks like I'm the only one getting the exact advertised speeds at my tier, 25/15. Hah.
You and me both...


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RolteC @ 1st Jul 04:43PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I will have to say 75/35 or even 100/35.

I say this because how can they offer us 35/35. but only increase the top tier upload to only 25?

I guess we will wait and see what happens with everyone!
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jul 05:25PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

35/35 is just for NY...with fluff.

My GUESS is that we will have 75/25, 35/20 (in some regions), and 25/15.

Fluff may go bye bye.
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deblin @ 1st Jul 06:18PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by jmn1207 :

35/35 is just for NY...with fluff.

My GUESS is that we will have 75/25, 35/20 (in some regions), and 25/15.

Fluff may go bye bye.
So you're anticipating that outside of NY, the people with 25/15 now who are seeing fluff and getting 25/25 will be able to upgrade to 35/20 with no fluff? Hrm, interesting theory I guess. The fact that 15/5 people are seeing 25/15-25 could support that theory...

Time will tell I guess.

I thought vzguy1 was supposed to throw us a bone this week about what may be coming in August? ;)
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jul 06:46PM:
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[Still Just Guessin']

I suppose I should clarify my guess. :D

I think that the 35/20 plan will remain exclusively for the NY area, at least in this wave of upgrades. If any fluff remains, it might carry over to all tiers for any given region where fluff already exists. It might even remain symmetrical for all tiers, meaning that 75/25 would see results up to 75/75, provided that a suitable means of measurement can be found. (gonna have to really open up my send window ;))

I believe the tiers will be advertised as I initially stated, regardless of whether or not fluff is implemented.

75/25
35/20 (NY area only)
25/15
15/5 (forgot about this one)

It's difficult to believe that fluff would continue, especially with the 15/5 tier getting the same performance as the "fluffed" 25/15 tier.

This site seems to have a considerable amount of influence with public relations, and the fluff being removed would cause quite a stir around here. It might even cause a mini-PR disaster for Verizon, if they're not careful.

vz1guy should seriously consider patenting the word "fluff" when used to describe overhead in this manner. Hey, Paris Hilton patented "That's Hot" and "That's Huge", so why not?

[/Still Just Guessin']
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birdfeedr @ 1st Jul 08:05PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by jmn1207 :

vz1guy should seriously consider patenting the word "fluff" when used to describe overhead in this manner. Hey, Paris Hilton patented "That's Hot" and "That's Huge", so why not?
Trademark or service mark is more accurate, unless a process is invented to create the fluff. We presume Boost is somehow patented. That would be great! Not! Another revenue stream from licensing the technology. :(

Boost is a temporary (10 second) burst of accelerated speed.

Fluff, as originally described in vzguy1's post, seemed to refer to the slight overprovision so that the overhead did not get subtracted from throughput. My 20 mbps download measures something like 19.5 mbps in a speed test which only counts bytes that filled the buffer, not counting the extra it took to get it there.

Somewhere since his first post it morphed into what may still be a temporary condition where the speed tier is overprovisioned as much as 25%. Whether it's a prelude to an August Surprise or it's a system stress test, it appears to be widespread enough that it's not a mistake. However, it does not occur in every case of someone upgrading.

Why he hasn't made his next announcement may have something to do with the higher ups trying to find out who leaked what too early last time. So they are telling different people different things and keeping track so when it gets out, they know where the source is.

Unless he's the official anonymous source for rumors and they haven't figured out just what they want to do for the August Surprise.

Stay tuned folks. The buzz is what sells. ;)
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jul 08:16PM:
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Please, like any of these rumors are hurting Verizon's image or their wallets. If there is solid information about new tiers, there is absolutely no way that Verizon could hope to keep it all under wraps a few weeks before it was implemented. There is simply far too much involved to keep something as potentially big as this completely under wraps. And if Verizon spends a single nickel trying to expose a leak as silly as this, I swear I'm cancelling all my service with these nuts and cutting fiber lines as far as I can walk until the police finally arrest me for vandalism.
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JohnA @ 1st Jul 08:25PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by birdfeedr :

Unless he's the official anonymous source for rumors and they haven't figured out just what they want to do for the August Surprise.
That's been my suspicion, after the marketing gurus at Verizon only snagged about 30% of the technical and aware people in the first week.

Lots of trouble disguising that rate increase (for the majority) as a speed bump.
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frankpf3 @ 2nd Jul 08:18AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Fluff wend bye bye yesterday, I am now getting 35 / 20 in the mySpeed tests....... :(
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BLUNTED 1 @ 2nd Jul 08:26AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

still getting over 25 to 30 mb up for me
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Gary A @ 2nd Jul 09:06AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by JohnA :

said by birdfeedr :

Unless he's the official anonymous source for rumors and they haven't figured out just what they want to do for the August Surprise.
That's been my suspicion, after the marketing gurus at Verizon only snagged about 30% of the technical and aware people in the first week.

Lots of trouble disguising that rate increase (for the majority) as a speed bump.
BINGO! I was one that did not upgrade because it would have been a 25% increase in my monthly bill.
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Hispanic @ 2nd Jul 09:07AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Still getting fluff here


But i would much rather have 35/20 then 25/25.
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JohnA @ 2nd Jul 09:28AM:
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The suspicion is that if everyone else gets 25/25, that the CV areas will get 35/35. That I can understand. It would make much more sense for Verizon to attack CV on the bottom tiers where the lions share of their customers reside, rather than worry about matching the speeds of the low number of customers on CV's 101M tier.
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deblin @ 2nd Jul 09:56AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by frankpf3 :

Fluff wend bye bye yesterday, I am now getting 35 / 20 in the mySpeed tests....... :(
That was fast. :( Barely a week. I hope it's just a fluke. Please continue to test and report back.
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kdwycha @ 2nd Jul 10:14AM:
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Seems I am no longer getting upstream fluff on the 15/5 package in Tampa, Florida.
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kdwycha @ 2nd Jul 10:16AM:
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Er..nevermind...this is why I should test from multiple servers :P


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jmn1207 @ 2nd Jul 10:21AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by Hispanic :

But i would much rather have 35/20 then 25/25.
I would rather have 25/25 over 50/20. I'm just not comfortable about these speeds continuing past August when the tier is advertised as 25/15. If my 50/20 uploads do not increase in this supposed August update and the 25/15 tier continues to see uploads at ~25Mbps, I'm going to switch. I might even pick up a bundled pricing as it would be cheaper than just paying for TV/Internet. (unless I can bundle just those 2 services?)

If I do get phone service, they will have to allow me to keep the copper POTS phone line on a different account, separate from the FiOS/fiber service. No, I don't anticipate that my bill will ever be correct again if I try and make this happen. :)
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Hispanic @ 2nd Jul 10:40AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Well I hope the CV areas also include parts of Jersey. I'm in a CV area and unfortunately do not get 35/20.
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anon @ 2nd Jul 12:16PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

After week and a half, I still got the error on my account which won't allow anything done to it. Every rep I've talked to tells me something different. First 4 said it would take 24/48hrs,, which it didn't... 8th rep said 5-7 business days. All in all, it will probably take a month. Worst service from a internet provider I ever had.
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Hispanic @ 2nd Jul 03:26PM:
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I have to admit that i'm jealous of Optimum Online Ultra speeds even though there is a $300 activation fee. All the talk about bpon and gpon but it seems that Verizon is building out bpon over here in NJ. At least in my building which was wired fairly recently, it is bpon. I don't think Fios will ever compete on the downstream side so that is why it is advertising the uploads.
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JeepMatt @ 2nd Jul 05:27PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I lost the "fluff" here in DE too!

WTF? I was seeing 26/22 - now i'm getting 25/10!


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Hispanic @ 2nd Jul 05:46PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Try other speedtest sites...
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JeepMatt @ 2nd Jul 06:02PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Any tips on a "true" way to test your upload?
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Hispanic @ 2nd Jul 06:18PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Check your pm
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deblin @ 2nd Jul 07:18PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by JeepMatt :

Any tips on a "true" way to test your upload?
I'm still testing at 25.7/25.1 here in DE (though on a business line).

If you want, I can set something up for you to upload to (via HTTP or FTP, whichever you prefer) to test things out. In theory since I can pull @ 25 Mbps and you can push @ 25 Mbps, we should be set.

Here's my test result from just now:

»msiad.visualware.com/myspeed/db/···=9273885
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Raphion @ 2nd Jul 08:02PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I have noticed uploads starting very slow sometimes, then ramping up slowly, not reaching full speed for half a min or so. That'll mess up a speedtest run when that happens.

Also annoying since I'd rather the full upload be there right away, not a slow start. Dunno what triggers the slow start, seems to happen randomly. :hmm:

[edit to add]
I'm still all fluffy here:
Interesting side note, this test server reports that it's send buffer needs to be tweaked to really keep up with my download. =p (bolded that part)

WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
checking for firewalls . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client-to-server [C2S]) . . . . . 22.59Mb/s
running 10s inbound test (server-to-client [S2C]) . . . . . . 23.45Mb/s


------ Client System Details ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.6.0_07

------ Web100 Detailed Analysis ------
45 Mbps T3/DS3 link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
No network congestion discovered.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 118.94 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
No packet loss was observed.
S2C throughput test: Packet queuing detected: 0.02%
This connection is receiver limited 7.02% of the time.
This connection is sender limited 87.92% of the time.
Increasing the NDT server's send buffer (127.0 KB) will improve performance
This connection is network limited 5.04% of the time.

Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
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JTBurn @ 2nd Jul 08:02PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Typical VZ. Entice you with fluff, then take it way. "Dats de way ete iss und you vill like it".
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Acerone @ 2nd Jul 08:12PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by JeepMatt :

I lost the "fluff" here in DE too!

WTF? I was seeing 26/22 - now i'm getting 25/10!


I was seeing 25/15 and now I'm getting this.


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Gary A @ 2nd Jul 08:54PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

VZ giveth and VZ taketh away... and sometimes taketh yours and giveth to someone else.
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Hispanic @ 2nd Jul 08:59PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

And I continue to have downstream issues at night. Verizon has no clue. I had a speedtest as low as 5mbps.





I seriously feel like i'm back on cable.
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deblin @ 2nd Jul 09:03PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Are you good enough acquaintances or friends with any of your neighbors? I'd run some tests from their side at the same time your speeds go down the drain and see if they see similar slow downs.
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Hispanic @ 2nd Jul 09:26PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

My immediate neighbor has FIOS but only cabletv. She doesn't have the internet. There is something strange going on.


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JeepMatt @ 3rd Jul 06:03AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Deblin-

Thanks for that link - when I use that site, I get:

Download speed 25510 Kbps (socket test)
Upload speed 24179 Kbps (socket test)
Quality of service 98 %
Maximum delay 6 ms
Round trip time 17 ms

I wonder if the Speedtest.net site is having issues?
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deblin @ 3rd Jul 10:11AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I've never gotten consistent results from any of the speedtest.net locations here, actually.

The visualware site is pretty trusty (at least for me) :)
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anon @ 3rd Jul 01:55PM:
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It's so ridiculous how verizon customer service can only add new services but if you want to cancel one, it has to go through another department and could take 1-2 weeks. Stupid pending order from 2006 won't allow any new orders to go through (20/5-25/15). From June 23rd to now, nothing has been changed. Awsome service!

Yet, we change premier to extreme hd go through in January. I think this is a stall on their end for some reason. Can't wait to see the next bill, I bet it will be fobar'd.
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kdwycha @ 7th Jul 03:38PM:
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Well been almost 2 weeks and still getting well "fluffed" here...wonder how long until it goes away :(

Have 15/5 in Florida BTW.
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SoCalDude @ 8th Jul 05:48PM:
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Hey guys, I just got FIOS internet installed today. Since I only got internet, the guy didn't mind running the cat6 cable that I gave him. The 2 techs were really cool and they did a great job. Anyway, here is my speed test result for 15/5.



local LA server only gives me 2-3 Mbps on the upload.
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BLUNTED 1 @ 8th Jul 07:41PM:
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From verizons speedtest

Your download
speed is:
26.053 Mbps

Your upload
speed is:
28.864 Mbps

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OreoleO @ 8th Jul 08:32PM:
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I'm still only getting 15/15 here in bucks, pa. Shouldn't I have been on the 20/15 or something at least? called billing and they wouldn't budge.
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deblin @ 8th Jul 08:35PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by OreoleO :

I'm still only getting 15/15 here in bucks, pa. Shouldn't I have been on the 20/15 or something at least? called billing and they wouldn't budge.
What plan are you on? 15/15 was a valid speed tier a while ago. Unless you called to upgrade, it's quite conceivable that you'd still be on 15/15 unless you called back when there was a free upgrade from 15/15 to 20/20.
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dmodert66 @ 9th Jul 04:59AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

My Verizon rep told me I can make changes at any time (I mentioned possible, additional speed changes in August). I myself switched from 20/20 non-bundled to 25/15 bundled...
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JTBurn @ 9th Jul 06:54AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I think Speedtest.net site is having issues. At least on the upload test.

On MySpeed:

Download speed 26118 Kbps (socket test)
Upload speed 25742 Kbps (socket test)
Quality of service 99 %
Maximum delay 9 ms
Round trip time 12 ms

But on Speedtest.net I'm only at 15 upload.
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darcilicious @ 9th Jul 09:03AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

In general, I think the DC test server is having problems. Can you try another relatively close speedtest.net server?
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Chaser @ 9th Jul 02:18PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I hope that we'll hear from vztools1 soon. I'm really interested in to what's to come in mid August.
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JeepMatt @ 9th Jul 02:23PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

JT-
The Speedtest.net AND Speakeasy.net speed tests have both been bonked for the past week or so.

The Visualware test that Deblin uses is the most accurate.
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aaronwt @ 9th Jul 03:21PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

»speedtest.comcast.net/

The Comcast speedtest site seems to be consistent. Certainly many times more consistent than the FIOS speed test site. With the Comcast site I'll hit my new negative fluff speed of 49.3mbs down and around 19mbs up for the negative fluff for upload. The FIOS speed test won't get higher than 33mbs down and 10mbs up for me.
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SoCalDude @ 9th Jul 03:38PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

FIOS 15/5 :)
Click for full size
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aaronwt @ 9th Jul 03:41PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by SoCalDude :

FIOS 15/5 :)
I really need to dump my crappy 50/20 tier.
I'll make my decision in August to see if they make any changes. If nothing improves, I'll change and save myself around $50 a month and I guess FIOS loses that $50 a month from me.
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gmsbf5104 @ 9th Jul 07:36PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I know early on some people were being told they wouldn't lose their promotional discount like the $30 off for 6 months and I was wondering if anyone has gotten their first bill yet where this was actually the case.
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JTBurn @ 9th Jul 08:24PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Thanks Jeep and Darc.

The DC test server for Speedtest.net is having problems. I tried Ashburn, VA and got 25/25, which is awesome!

Jeep, also like you pointed out - Visualware gave me 26/26.

I'm a happy camper since I am paying for 25/15.

JT
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aaronwt @ 10th Jul 08:07AM:
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said by JTBurn :

Thanks Jeep and Darc.

The DC test server for Speedtest.net is having problems. I tried Ashburn, VA and got 25/25, which is awesome!

Jeep, also like you pointed out - Visualware gave me 26/26.

I'm a happy camper since I am paying for 25/15.

JT
For me the DC server is coming up faster for me for download. I can actually hit a negative fluff speed of 49.5 mbs from there compared to 47mbs from Asburn. But Asburn shows a better negative fluff upload at 19mbs compared with 16mbs for the DC site.

Still nothing like the speeds I had for a year before they borked my connection.
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fredct @ 10th Jul 06:05PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Sorry if this may have been asked & answered already, but 33 pages is a bit much to fully parse... :)

... if I go online (or call) and change my plan to one of the new ones, when does it take effect? Immediately, or at the next billing cycle, or what?

Thanks, Fred
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More Fiber @ 10th Jul 07:39PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

Within a couple of hours.
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rcgirl @ 10th Jul 11:08PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

you can get all the premiums and triple play for $154
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HEMIDART68 @ 10th Jul 11:32PM:
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said by rcgirl :

you can get all the premiums and triple play for $154
serious? I'm currently paying 149.41 for 15/5 with fios hd extreme and hbo + 3 months of free showtime and cinemax. Three hd boxes and 1 SD
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JeepMatt @ 11th Jul 07:52AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

That $154 is WITHOUT STB's figured in...
--
"ONE team - ONE city - ONE dream!!"

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SoCalDude @ 15th Jul 02:42AM:
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I hope the fluff doesn't go away.
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BLUNTED 1 @ 15th Jul 04:01AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

I hope I keep my fluff too on my 25/15



»www.speedtest.net/result/517724302.png
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TKC05 @ 17th Jul 11:02AM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

FTW


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anon @ 17th Jul 03:15PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

im not getting any fluff =(

upgraded in hopes of 25/25 but im just getting what i paid for

that kinda sucks.
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deblin @ 17th Jul 04:17PM:
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said by Senn :

im not getting any fluff =(

upgraded in hopes of 25/25 but im just getting what i paid for

that kinda sucks.
Most likely you need to do some tweaking.
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He who is not contented with what he has, would not be contented with what he would like to have. -Socrates

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RolteC @ 17th Jul 11:44PM:
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said by TKC05 :

FTW


Mind running a speed test on something other then speedtest.net, maybe »myspeed.visualware.com ?

And for a capacity test, which everyone should use!

»www.myconnectiontest.net/captest/try.html
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anon @ 17th Jul 11:54PM:
Heres a joke for ya

This is what OOL gives me at 12 midnight on my 15/2 connection.


FIOS on Monday .
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jefe @ 18th Jul 09:11AM:
Re: Heres a joke for ya

Hey SoonFIOS...I don't know about you, but as an ex-OOLer myself I laughed out loud at the post a couple above where annonymous Senn says ".....but im just getting what i pad for that kinda sucks."

You think he'd get any sympathy over in OOL Land? :D

edit: Here's a typcial speed test I ran during peak hours in the evening:



Your speed troubles will be over on Monday.
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RolteC @ 18th Jul 04:51PM:
Re: Heres a joke for ya

Everyone should realize one very important thing.

If one day, everyone(extreme exaggeration) decides to move over to FiOS and start abusing the connection, enough places will start to come on here complaining about slow speeds, and poor uploads.

Every network has its limits, and I am pretty sure when enough customers switch over the problems will start.

sighs, I just hope that day hough never comes for FiOS.
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darcilicious @ 18th Jul 08:04PM:
Re: Heres a joke for ya

"Abusing" the connection...? How so, by *using* it?
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birdfeedr @ 18th Jul 08:13PM:
Re: Looks like the announcement is announced...

said by RolteC :

And for a capacity test, which everyone should use!

»www.myconnectiontest.net/captest/try.html
which everyone should use! Windows trialware 2K / XP / Vista.

Linux need not apply.
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Raphion @ 20th Jul 12:58AM:
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said by RolteC :

And for a capacity test, which everyone should use!

»www.myconnectiontest.net/captest/try.html
Cool test, seems accurate at the moment (but wait till everyone else is using it too :hmm: ).

Capacity test statistics
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Download capacity: 25,598,392 bps
Download packets per second: 3,199
Upload capacity: 24,501,536 bps
Upload packets per second: 3,062
Quality of service: 98 %
Packet size: 1,000 Bytes

15/5 plan.
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