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Marcus Carr @ 11th Sep 07:26PM:
New HD Channels in Maryland
People over at AVS have received fliers about new HD channels:
Anne Arundel County 10/10 - 38 channels:
BET
Big Ten Network
Bio
Bravo
Cartoon Network
CBS College Sports
CMT
CNBC
HLN
Comedy Central
Disney XD
E
Encore
ESPNEWS
FOX Business
Fuse
G4
Hallmark Movie Channel
IFC
Lifetime
Lifetime Movie Network
MGM
MLB Network
MTV
NBA TV
NHL Network
Nick
Planet Green
QVC
Spike
Style
Turner Classic Movies
The Weather Channel
Travel Channel
Tru TV
TV One
VH1
WE
Baltimore County 11/28 - 44 channels:
BET, BigTen, bio, Bravo, Cartoon Network, CBS College Sports, CMT, CNBC+, HLN, Comedy Central, DisneyXD, E, Encore, ESPNEWS, ESPNU, FoxBiz, fuse, G4, Hallmark, IFC, MLB Exta Innings/NHL Center Ice Featured Games (1 channel), NBA League Pass/MLS Direct Kick Featured Games (1 channel), IND PPV (had this previously, it went away to make room for others, now it's returning?), Lifetime, Lifetime Movies, MGM, MLB Network, Mtv, MSNBC, NBATV, NHL Network, Nick, PlanetGreen, QVC, Spike, Style, TCM, Weather, Tennis Channel, Travel, truTV, tvOne, VH1, We.
Montgomery County 12/12 - 48 channels - see next post:
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Marcus Carr @ 11th Sep 07:27PM:
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CleanGene @ 11th Sep 11:47PM:
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It should not surprise anyone that those dates roughly coincide with the first batch of channel changes for analog reclamation in Anne Arundel, Baltimore county (not city), and Montgomery County - moving channels to digital frees up a lot of room for things like more HD. :)
Anyway, if you're in those areas, now would be a good time to stop in to the office to pick up any DTAs you'll need, or call to have them shipped to you. Don't wait if you can help it.
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raw @ 12th Sep 02:46PM:
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So no ESPNU in AA county (as of yet, anyway)... *grumble*
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CleanGene @ 12th Sep 11:20PM:
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said by raw :
So no ESPNU in AA county (as of yet, anyway)... *grumble*
If you have the Sports Pack, try channel 730 :)
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anon @ 13th Sep 02:20AM:
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lucky
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raw @ 13th Sep 08:04AM:
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I meant in HD. :)
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CleanGene @ 13th Sep 08:14PM:
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said by raw :
I meant in HD. :)
Picky, picky ;)
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Onazuka @ 13th Sep 09:57PM:
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We aren't getting any of these in Howard County.
What's worse is we have Scientific Atlanta equipment and the new I-Guide, remote DVR programming, etc., only work on Motorola boxes so we won't be getting that either.
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Marcus Carr @ 19th Sep 05:38PM:
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Comcast has added a second HD PPV channel in Baltimore on channel 259.
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Joe12345678 @ 19th Sep 10:12PM:
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They count the 3 in demand channels as 3 but ONLY ONE CAN BE LIVE At a time and that is part time any ways.
red zone is only live 6H a week for about 15 weeks a year.
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Marcus Carr @ 19th Sep 10:16PM:
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Both channels are live right now. One has boxing and the other has UFC.
RedZone is 1-8 ET on sundays for 17 weeks.
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TurboDan @ 20th Sep 03:04PM:
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said by Onazuka :
We aren't getting any of these in Howard County.
What's worse is we have Scientific Atlanta equipment and the new I-Guide, remote DVR programming, etc., only work on Motorola boxes so we won't be getting that either.
Ocean County, NJ is in the same boat. But look at it this way - at least on Scientific Atlanta equipment, you don't have to deal with Comcast spamming your guide with ads.
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PGHammer @ 23rd Sep 07:44PM:
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AFAIK, Prince George's and Montgomery Counties should take place simultaneously (the two counties neighbor each other, though PG went ADS before Montgomery). While CNBC HD+ (and FBN HD) are welcome, conspicuous by their absence is FNC HD. Also, isn't HD Theater a move (as they were already in the 200s in Montgomery County, as they are in PG)? QVC and HSN HD are unsurprising (though Comcast does not own QVC any longer, they still have a long-term carriage agreement). TWC HD? Unsurprising (in fact, late!) and welcome (capacity was likely an issue; as of late, weather has caused more than its share of local headaches). I still hope that the absence of FNC HD was simply an oversight (if we can be inflicted with HD Rachel Maddow and Andrea Mitchell, then Ann Coulter and Megyn Kelly deserve equal time).
Now, I have nada against Andrea Mitchell (before NBC itself, and later MSNBC, grabbed her, Andrea was a regular at NBC O&O WRC-TV, and she actually covered her stories like Joe Friday - just the facts; she hasn't changed her style), Rachel is as baldly in the liberal tank as her compadre Keith Olbermann (if not worse). Though Glenn Beck (and even Sean Hannity) are as far to the right as Rachel and Keith are to the left, at least they actually dare to present data to back up their comments, which is more than I can say for Rachel OR Keith. Chris Matthews, while just as left-leaning as Keith and Rachel, doesn't commit their sins of ommission, though, so I can actually respect him.
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CleanGene @ 23rd Sep 11:09PM:
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said by PGHammer :
AFAIK, Prince George's and Montgomery Counties should take place simultaneously (the two counties neighbor each other, though PG went ADS before Montgomery).
You would think that, but actually Montgomery county is scheduled for the first batch of digital conversions at the end of November, hence the new HD adds in December. PG, on the other hand, won't take place until sometime later - the timeframe for that seems to be tentative still, so I won't suggest actual dates, other than to say it won't be this year.
While CNBC HD+ (and FBN HD) are welcome, conspicuous by their absence is FNC HD. Also, isn't HD Theater a move (as they were already in the 200s in Montgomery County, as they are in PG)?
I believe that is correct - HD Theater is on 225, IIRC. That may be a misprint, but everything else looks OK at a glance.
I still hope that the absence of FNC HD was simply an oversight (if we can be inflicted with HD Rachel Maddow and Andrea Mitchell, then Ann Coulter and Megyn Kelly deserve equal time).
I have no information on further HD adds other than what's above, but of course there is a second round of digital conversions scheduled for Montgomery County at the beginning of January, and PG will almost certainly be done in two batches as well. Assuming the first round goes smoothly, it would not surprise me to see more adds announced with the second round of changes as well, but this is simply speculation on my part at this point :)
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PGHammer @ 24th Sep 01:33AM:
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said by CleanGene :said by PGHammer :
AFAIK, Prince George's and Montgomery Counties should take place simultaneously (the two counties neighbor each other, though PG went ADS before Montgomery).
You would think that, but actually Montgomery county is scheduled for the first batch of digital conversions at the end of November, hence the new HD adds in December. PG, on the other hand, won't take place until sometime later - the timeframe for that seems to be tentative still, so I won't suggest actual dates, other than to say it won't be this year.
While CNBC HD+ (and FBN HD) are welcome, conspicuous by their absence is FNC HD. Also, isn't HD Theater a move (as they were already in the 200s in Montgomery County, as they are in PG)?
I believe that is correct - HD Theater is on 225, IIRC. That may be a misprint, but everything else looks OK at a glance.
I still hope that the absence of FNC HD was simply an oversight (if we can be inflicted with HD Rachel Maddow and Andrea Mitchell, then Ann Coulter and Megyn Kelly deserve equal time).
I have no information on further HD adds other than what's above, but of course there is a second round of digital conversions scheduled for Montgomery County at the beginning of January, and PG will almost certainly be done in two batches as well. Assuming the first round goes smoothly, it would not surprise me to see more adds announced with the second round of changes as well, but this is simply speculation on my part at this point :)
I'm actually surprised that Prince George's is lagging Montgomery here because Montgomery County's system was a mess (mostly due to the mess that Prime Communications left it that Comcast had to clean up; that was why Montgomery's ADS rollout was late). In the case of Prince George's, I think part of the issue is a new call center in Largo (replacing the existing local call center there, and taking some of the load from Silver Spring; also moving to Largo is the NOC, which was on Ritchie-Marlboro Road) which is likely what part of the delay in Prince George's (my home system) is about.
Largo will take over some of the local load from Silver Spring (which will still back Largo up in cases of heavy call volume); Largo will also have Internet and telephony CSRs (Silver Spring had been handling *all* of that). Silver Spring is not scheduled to lose any bodies (the shrinkage will happen mostly at Lanham and Bowie). As part of the original agreement between the original cable companies serving the county (Comcast was the eventual acquirer; however, both were originally acquired by Jones Intercable), Comcast was burdened with three local offices within the county (Largo, Lanham, and Bowie), while Verizon FIOS only has one.
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mjw703 @ 24th Sep 08:57AM:
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I live in Arlington, which used to be a Prime Communications area. They must have been a totally rotten cable company, they were still using traps for HBO when I moved here in 2001. I had them ages ago when I lived in Annapolis, and they were truly awful there as well. But how did Arlington get Scientific Atlanta equipment and Mogo get Motorola if Prime built both systems? I have a feeling Arlington won't be seeing any new HD channels for a long, long time. Too bad since I think we have a lot of people with HD sets in this county, and a lot of people here have Fios or a dish. I live in an apartment so I don't have a choice, otherwise I'd go with Fios.
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Marcus Carr @ 24th Sep 10:53AM:
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According to customer service, DTAs will be available in Baltimore City at the beginning of October.
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Marcus Carr @ 30th Sep 04:28PM:
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Charles and St. Mary's counties added 35 HD channels in August after dropping 20 analog channels and before dropping another 20.
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Marcus Carr @ 1st Oct 12:33PM:
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Unlabeled channels at 854 and 863 this morning in Baltimore. If they match the Montgomery County numbers above they will be CBS College Sports HD and NBA TV HD. These would be in adddition to the second HD PPV and RedZone HD we got recently. We haven't had the digital migration yet but maybe we have room for a few channels anyway.
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ak3883 @ 1st Oct 01:18PM:
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Up here in the Philly burbs we got NBATV HD recently, on 863. No 854, but we got Comcast Network HD(old CN8) on 856(also on 201). Perhaps the other one is NHL Network, to coeincide with the start of NHL season?
Weird thing is we had no HDs in the 800s, just some ondemand/spotlight links/placeholders. So it seems like all of Philly metro's HDs will be moving to the 800s in the future. My area starts the migrations on 10/13.
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anon @ 1st Oct 01:53PM:
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Correct about new HDs in 800s. Info from other areas shows that will be where they are going and additions of NBA, RedZone, PPV, etc. match up. They even dropped the Comcast Network in a spot where there wasn't a channel (856) in the 800 lineups elsewhere.
From what I have found, here is what to expect...
785-PPV
786- MLB/NHL Game Plan main HD game
789- BA/MLS Game Plan main HD game
806- QVC
815- Weather Channel
816- HLN
818- MSNBC
819- CNBC
821- Fox Business
827- Spike
828- Comedy Central
830- WGN America
832- Bravo
833- E!
834- Style
835- Lifetime
836- WE
840- Travel
841- TruTV
852- ESPNews
853- ESPNU
854- CBS College Sports
855- Big 10 Network
857- NHL
859- MLB
861- NFL RedZone
862- Tennis
863- NBA
864- Outdoor
865- TV One
866- BET
867- G4
870- HD Theatre
873- Green
874- Bio
877- Disney XD
878- Cartoon
879- Nik
883- CMT
884- MTV
885- FUSE
886- VH1
890- TMC
891- Encore
892- MGM
893- IFC
894- Hallmark Movies
895- Lifetime Movies
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anon @ 1st Oct 01:53PM:
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NHL should be 858 from what i have been tracking on new HD channels and 854 should be CBS College Sports.
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raw @ 1st Oct 05:54PM:
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CBS College Sports HD is live and labeled as such on our side of the Patapsco, as is NBA TV HD, although the guide for NBA TV just says "NBA High Definition TV"
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PGHammer @ 1st Oct 09:37PM:
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Still, that's a LOT of duplication in the 800s.
Will the 800s become a second HD Block (as the 200-256 area is now)? That's the only reason I can see for it (so there will be some moves from the 200s to the 800s) eventually.
857 (NHL TV), 859 (MLB Extra Innings) and 861 (NFL RedZone) are all moves/duplicates, as is 870 (HD Theater). However, note that NFL HD stays put (231, if I'm not mistaken). So it looks like four moves, and a truckload of now-in-HD (let's see how much is genuine, as opposed to Turner Stretch-O-Matic content) channels.
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ak3883 @ 1st Oct 11:32PM:
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I think they will move all HD channels into the upper 700s and 800s, including the ones currently in the 200s. I couldn't find it, but I thought I remembered seeing a new PDF of a lineup somewhere, and it had everything(including local HDs) moved into the 700s/800s.
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raw @ 4th Oct 06:19PM:
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said by PGHammer :
857 (NHL TV), 859 (MLB Extra Innings)
Neither of those currently exist in HD here, so I wonder how many of those will end up to be moves in an effort to standardize lineups across Comcast's MD dominionsholdings.
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anon @ 5th Oct 02:24PM:
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Looks like the new Hd "package" is being dropped in the 800s with duplicates remaining in 200s around the country. Think local stations (ABC, etc.) will remain where they are now with new nationals going to 800s.
Thursday will be 2 weeks since end of digital migration in Chester Co. PA but not holding my breath for new HD channels, although others have gotten them even after 1st wave or migration. We never even for FX/Speed/Fox News HD when others did months ago.
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Marcus Carr @ 7th Oct 09:52AM:
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"World of More channels" were added today in Anne Arundel and Calvert Counties.
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raw @ 7th Oct 05:00PM:
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Indeed. Channel 858 has not shown up yet as NHL Network, but it is live and in HD.
Edit: I can't seem to find WTTG HD (DC's FOX, currently on channel 255). Comcast better not be dropping it...
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Spiderman865 @ 7th Oct 05:06PM:
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Not around here. All of the new HD they have added are mixed in with SD channels in the 200-350 range.
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Marcus Carr @ 8th Oct 04:39AM:
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said by Marcus Carr :
Unlabeled channels at 854 and 863 this morning in Baltimore. If they match the Montgomery County numbers above they will be CBS College Sports HD and NBA TV HD.
Channels are now labeled and those are the correct channels. They still say Not Authorized so far.
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anon @ 8th Oct 04:24PM:
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This is really great news.
I am a Comcast subscriber in Baltimore and I was about to make the switch to FIOS because of the lack of NHL TV HD, and the missing HD Channel that Center Ice provides.
I have called/emailed/mailed everybody I could find from Comcast to ask for an ETA on when NHL Network and The Center ICE HD channel would be available but nobody would answer. I explained that I was going to cancel, but still no go.
Marcus, thanks for this info - saves me the hassle and $$$ of switching to FIOS.
How did you get this info?
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Marcus Carr @ 9th Oct 09:44AM:
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»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···t=424081
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PGHammer @ 14th Oct 08:07PM:
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Apparently, it's next month that the rest of Project Cavalry will ride into Prince George's County; I got a separate mailing from the Comcast of Prince George's Largo, MD office detailing changes to Digital Starter and above included equipment effective November 16 (the change goes from a single standard converter and remote to a standard converter and up to two DTAs, all with included remotes); we received this mailing as we are normally subscribers to Digital Starter (but are in a Digital Premier promo period for now that runs until October 2010). We will likely add at least one DTA (for our only all-analog TV).
However, I have some questions regarding DTAs and Digital Starter/Digital Classic post-Cavalry.
1. Which channels normally part of Digital Starter are typically receivable on a DTA?
2. What outputs are *standard* on a DTA? (I'm thinking that the DTAs are a lot like the DCT-7xx output-wise; RF and composite-only.)
3. We are currently billed for a standard digital converter and an HD converter (however, we have two standard converters, neither of which is HD-capable; one is a DCT22xx and one is a DCT-7xx). Preferably, I'd rather replace the DCT-22xx with a DCT-7xx and point out to Billing that if they are going to actually bill us for an HD converter, we'd like to actually have one; the HD converter will either go in the kitchen or my bedroom. Is there an actual chance that such a swap could be affected at no additional charge? (However, if we're merely billed for an additional digital converter, that would be fine.)
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PGHammer @ 19th Oct 08:18PM:
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Surprise, surprise.
I was channel-surfinng on thhe DCT-700 in the family room (connected via composite to the 32" 4:3 Trinitron WEGA) and noticed that the HD channels had been added to the guide (I'm not referring to the OTA sub-channels, but the actual HD channels normally included with Digital Starter/Classic, such as FNC HD at channel 215); however, they are, naturally, not viewable on the DCT-700, as this isn't an HD-capable STB (unless there is something they aren't telling).
»www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Bus···aleId=33
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Marcus Carr @ 26th Oct 10:34AM:
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said by Marcus Carr :said by Marcus Carr :
Unlabeled channels at 854 and 863 this morning in Baltimore. If they match the Montgomery County numbers above they will be CBS College Sports HD and NBA TV HD.
Channels are now labeled and those are the correct channels. They still say Not Authorized so far.
Channels are active but only available on the sports pack, even though the SD version of CBS College Sports is on Digital Classic. :uhh:
No time frame for DTA availability (as far as customer service knows.) Might not be until early next year. Baltimore City is often behind the counties. Maybe if we also had FiOS available...
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scottbbfm @ 26th Oct 12:49PM:
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I can confirm the availability of CBSC HD and NBA TV HD on Baltimore City - although that's a shame (if not quite annoying) about the availability of new HD channels.
Experienced total outtages Saturday night and this morning - maybe they were working on some upgrades?
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Marcus Carr @ 29th Oct 08:57AM:
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As of this morning most of the HD channels have been duplicated in the 800s, even though we haven't received word on Project Cavalry/World of More yet.
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anon @ 30th Oct 04:32PM:
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I am in Baltimore County (Timonium) but have not see these new channels listed in my guide. Is there something that needs to be done in order to see them?
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scottbbfm @ 2nd Nov 03:07PM:
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Anyone know anything about MASN? Does Comcast plan to offer bandwith for a MASN2 HD so all O's/Nats games are in HD?
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dyhrdmet @ 2nd Nov 04:56PM:
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said by scottbbfm :
Anyone know anything about MASN? Does Comcast plan to offer bandwith for a MASN2 HD so all O's/Nats games are in HD?
I know MASN produces both the Nats and O's in HD, but do they distribute 2 HD channels to air all games live in HD? I know last season, they had 1 (MASN HD, which sometimes showed a game on MASN2).
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PGHammer @ 2nd Nov 06:21PM:
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I did a QAM rescan earlier today; apparently, the remapping has begun.
Several additional channels are now showing up twice (in the old analog spots, and in their clearQAM-for-now positions) in Comcast of Prince George's County (MD)'s system. The dupes include all the PEGs, all the news channels (SD-only, unfortunately, darn it), and even surprise visitor the Weather Channel.
If you have a TV with a QAM tuner, here's your chance to do a heads-up comparison of analog vs. QAM, even with an SD picture.
In every single case, the QAM picture was both clearer and sharper (even the PEGs had their act cleaned up) compared to the analog resident. I don't have the remotest clue of how QAM differs from a standard analog NTSC signal; however, the fact that it even cleans up PEG content (typically produced on the leanest of budgets!) makes me all the angrier over the dearth of such tuners in low-end HDTVs (of any size) today.
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PaulGo @ 3rd Nov 12:26PM:
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As far as I know all TV's currently produced (even low end TV's) now have built in QAM tuners. I wish they would make a good quality external tuner box that could tune in QAM and ATSC channels.
The fly in the ointment is that producer of the cheap DTA have gotten approval to allow the cable companies to scramble all channels except the over the air channels so if the cable companies implement this the clear QAM tuners will not get many channels. The only solution would be to get a TV with Tru2way or an external box with this feature.
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PGHammer @ 3rd Nov 01:13PM:
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The manufacturers of the inexpensive DTAs (and the cable companies they sell to) were chivvied into petitioning the FCC by the programmers (who want end-to-end copy-protection) likely by threatening to not renew (or possibly even cut the cable companies off entirely). Cable companies without content to sell are DEAD cable companies; naturally, they caved. With that taking place behind closed doors, of COURSE we weren't aware; so, therefore, we blame the cable companies (despite us knowing better).
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scottbbfm @ 3rd Nov 02:15PM:
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That's correct, all games were produced in HD. If there was a rain out or the game ended early, etc, the game that was supposed to be on MASN2 was simulcast on MASN and MASNHD. Additionally, the game on MASN2 was shown via tape delay in HD later. It was my understanding that Comcast wasn't going to offer the bandwith for a bonus HD channel, so there was little point in MASN actually broadcasting a second HD channel. Since Comcast will seemingly have the bandwith available by the start of next season, I don't see why a MASN 2 HD channel shouldn't be possible.
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Marcus Carr @ 20th Nov 05:20PM:
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Finally got a postcard today about DTAs for Baltimore City. Effective 12/23, Digital Starter and above will include a free digital converter or DTA on the primary outlet and up to two free additional DTAs. No mention of analog reclamation yet.
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Marcus Carr @ 26th Nov 02:59PM:
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Baltimore County got their new channels yesterday.
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SGR @ 26th Nov 10:51PM:
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Odd, no new channels here and I'm in Baltimore county.
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Donfish @ 27th Nov 12:25AM:
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So do those HD non-premium movie channels like Encore, Hallmark and MGM now show all movies in 16.9 or is it the same old pan and scan 4.3 but in HD resolution?
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Marcus Carr @ 27th Nov 03:12AM:
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said by SGR :
Odd, no new channels here and I'm in Baltimore county.
Well apparently somebody there has them.
»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···17604510
The flier for Baltimore County said on or about November 28 so you should get them soon.
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SGR @ 29th Nov 12:59AM:
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Ahh, my location is outdated. I'm in Parkton now. It looks like we just got all the new channels but they are in a weird area right now. Our HD's normally are in the 200's but now we've got a bunch in the 200's and a bunch in the 800's. (Including a lot of duplicates) I guess Comcast is moving HD's to the 800's now and will eventually deactivate the 200's? I checked Comcast.com's channel lineup and it's not even listing the new HD's in the 800's and still shows the normal HD lineup in the 200's.
Unfortunately my Tivo hasn't picked them up yet. 800-899 show up as "Information Channel On Demand" yet when I go to it it's the new HD channels.
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