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CrazyPete @ 27th Oct 02:43PM:
Boost Speed Varies?

DL can be like this:

and other times it can be around

13Mb/s Down (upload stays the same).

It is normal or is there something I can look into?
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CrazyPete @ 27th Oct 04:26PM:
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And now:

anon @ 27th Oct 10:14PM:
Re: Boost Speed Varies?

I too am having the same issues as you CrazyPete.
I normally get good speeds over 23 Mb/S but it seems like boost has been very slow the last couple of weeks for me.
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CrazyPete @ 28th Oct 08:46AM:
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said by gtx21 :

I too am having the same issues as you CrazyPete.
I normally get good speeds over 23 Mb/S but it seems like boost has been very slow the last couple of weeks for me.

Here is this morning for me:

CrazyPete @ 28th Oct 09:01AM:
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CrazyPete @ 28th Oct 11:48AM:
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TheWiseGuy @ 28th Oct 12:00PM:
Re: Boost Speed Varies?

The Boost downstream channel has a maximum capacity of 38mbps. So unless you have a channel to yourself, if you run a large number of speedtests the Boost speed will likely vary. If you need a high bandwidth connection at all times and FIOS is available I suggest you get FIOS. Otherwise you should use your connection and test when you think there is a problem.
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CrazyPete @ 28th Oct 12:41PM:
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said by TheWiseGuy :

The Boost downstream channel has a maximum capacity of 38mbps. So unless you have a channel to yourself, if you run a large number of speedtests the Boost speed will likely vary. If you need a high bandwidth connection at all times and FIOS is available I suggest you get FIOS. Otherwise you should use your connection and test when you think there is a problem.

Ok. So question. In my case, I like it for the upload speed (using Slingbox) but for the average person that wants faster downloads, why would you buy Boost? I am getting the same speed DL now as I was before Boost.
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TheWiseGuy @ 28th Oct 12:55PM:
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I would guess the average Download speed for most users on Boost is quite a bit faster then the average Download speed they get on normal OOL. I didn't say that if someone saw 15mbps all the time or a large portion of the time they would not have a right to complain. Your title was Boost speed varies. I simply said that a speed variation if you did a lot of speed tests was normal. Also make sure when testing to use several different tests since part of the variation can in some cases simply be a particular speed test so if you are testing use several including

»ftp://ftp1.optonline.net/test64
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RARPSL @ 28th Oct 05:13PM:
Re: Boost Speed Varies?

There is also the issue that you are not only sharing that channel with all the other Boost Users on your node BUT any ULTRA users on your node. While Ultra uses (at the current time) 2 Ultra-Only Channels, its 3rd Channel is that node's Boost Channel not a 3rd Ultra-Only one (although DOCSIS 3 modems currently support 4 Bonded Download Channels, CV does not provision a 4th channel or even 3 Ultra-Only Channels).
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CrazyPete @ 1st Nov 08:08PM:
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So does all this mean that I'm not really going to get anywhere near 30Mb/s (or even 20) very often?

Or is there something I can do?
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TheWiseGuy @ 1st Nov 08:24PM:
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A channel has a bandwidth capacity of slightly over 410 GB/day. So a lot depends on how many people are on the channel and how much they download. As I said, if you do a lot of tests, your speed is bound to vary. If the channel you are on has normal usage you would probably see close to 30mps a lot of the time. If there is high usage, say a lot of college students running P2P, it may be lower a lot of the time.
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RARPSL @ 1st Nov 09:07PM:
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said by TheWiseGuy :

A channel has a bandwidth capacity of slightly over 410 GB/day. So a lot depends on how many people are on the channel and how much they download.

The total daily available bandwidth is not that relevant to the question nor is your statement about the number of people on the channel and how much they are downloading UNLESS you qualify that statement with the caveat of "When you want to use the channel". If you use the channel when no one else is on, you will get good speeds. If you try to use it when lots of others are on AND doing downloads, then you will share the 38Mbs (max) with them and get lower speeds.

This is a lot like driving at "Rush Hour" as opposed to a non-Rush Hour (or at 3AM in the morning). If you use the highway when lots of other cars are there, you will not be able to go full speed (you may be forced to creep along in "bumper-to-bumper" traffic). Using the highway when you are the only one there will allow you to go at the speed limit.
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TheWiseGuy @ 1st Nov 10:13PM:
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CrazyPete

I've had to put the other poster on ignore since it is obvious his objective is to argue with me, and I hope he does not distract you from learning about the network. He could have made his points in a very different way if his objective was to add to the conversation. It is quite obvious he is looking for an argument but he really does not want to deal with the important aspects of the situation. He can continue this argument with out me.

As I said in my initial response, the channel is 38mbps so if another user happens to be downloading when you are, you will not see speeds that are 38mbps. It does not matter if it is an Ultra user or a Boost user and there are almost certainly a lot more Boost users then there are Ultra Users. It is a very small side issue that seems to be a fixation with some people that Boost and Ultra use the same channel.

Whether you will see close to 30mbps regularly or rarely will depend on the overall usage of the channel. There is 410GB/day. So from a statistical basis unless there are couple of users whose usage is very very high or the number of users is large, making the channel having a high regular load, it is unlike that the usage would occur at the same time as you on a regular basis but as I said in the original post if someone is using the channel at the same time you will not see 30mbps. So whether you will see 30mbps very often as many users get, or rarely as some users end up with will be based on the usage of the channel. With 410GB of data available, there is a lot of bandwidth available, but if someone happens to be using it when you do, your bandwidth will not be 30mbps. Again from a statistical basis whether you will rarely see 30mbps depends on the overall usage of your channel.
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Tancred @ 2nd Nov 08:17PM:
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TheWiseGuy is full of shit.

The answer to your problem is that most people are suffering from it. Just look around on these forums and see how unhappy people are with CableVision's complete lack of service.

Too many people using OOL. Nodes are overloaded. CableVision's response? Ignore the problem!

Basic evidence to support this claim is the following:
If you're speed is slower than advertised between 6 - 10 PM, then run a speedtest at around 2 - 4 AM. It should be maxed out because most people are asleep at that time.

The most you can do isn't much really. Call CV, be put on hold for a half hour, talk to tech support, perform useless troubleshooting tasks that a comatose person would have performed already and waste another half hour of your time, get a tech to come to your house, tech says no problems, go back to step one and keep doing it till progress has been made.

Hell, even some of the techs that came to my house talked shit about CableVision and the numerous problems people are experiencing with them and rightly so.
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TheWiseGuy @ 2nd Nov 10:05PM:
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And how does anything in your post contradict what I have said except your conclusion that it is the prevalent condition. I never said that there were not overloaded channels, but I have been here long enough to know that people come here to complain when they have a problem. People who are not having a problem tend not to post. In fact it is actually somewhat frowned upon to post hey my speeds are good, when others are having a problem.

My main point was that if you run a large number of tests your speeds would vary. I also made it clear that if you are consistently not getting good speeds you have a right to complain. You can say I am full of shit but I think you should realize that there are probably over 10,000 nodes and 3 Million people using OOL. I've been around here a while and seen the amount of posts that occur when a lot of people are having problems. That doesn't mean that those who are having a problem don't have a valid complaint or a legitimate gripe.
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RARPSL @ 2nd Nov 11:55PM:
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said by TheWiseGuy :

CrazyPete

As I said in my initial response, the channel is 38mbps so if another user happens to be downloading when you are, you will not see speeds that are 38mbps. It does not matter if it is an Ultra user or a Boost user and there are almost certainly a lot more Boost users then there are Ultra Users. It is a very small side issue that seems to be a fixation with some people that Boost and Ultra use the same channel.

The fact you are CURRENTLY sharing your Boost Channel with an Ultra User as opposed to another Boost User (ie: Both are using it at the same time) MAY be relevant based on how D3 handles the Bonded Channels. If D3 load levels all 3 Channels (ie: uses the same bandwidth on all 3) then an Ultra user will have less of an impact on the Boost user than if it were another Boost User (since only 33% of its load is on the Boost Channel [thus making it act as a Boost User using only that percentage of its actual bandwidth]). If Ultra uses the least loaded Channel, it would favor the two Ultra Channels only rolling over to the Boost Channel when the Ultra Channels are loaded (ie: It would have NO/MINIMAL impact on the Boost Channel until it needs more than at least 60Mbs since only then will it need a 3rd Channel). There is also the possibility that it rolls over to the extra channels when the first channel is loaded (so it would act more like a Boost User). I think it load levels so a 30Mbs download only has 10Mbs on the Boost Channel (thus acting like a 10Mbs Boost User).
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