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crazyk4952 @ 30th Oct 12:03AM:
[Equipment] PAP2T incorrect time
My PAP2T has been an hour off for several days. I suspect that it thinks daylight savings time has ended already.
This is what I have for the daylight savings time rule:
start=3/8/7/2:00;end=11/1/7/2:00;save=1
Also, my NTP server is time.nist.gov.
I thought this was right, but maybe not? What could be the problem?
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OmagicQ @ 30th Oct 12:07AM:
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That's the same rule I use and I have the correct time. Try using another time server like 0.us.pool.ntp.org
Edit: Make sure you have the correct timezone selected also.
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pagemen @ 30th Oct 12:19AM:
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Have you tried to reboot the PAP2? This also happens to me sometimes -- time is correct but the DST rule isn't applied, a reboot would "fix" it.
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crazyk4952 @ 30th Oct 08:30AM:
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I tried rebooting, unfortunately, this did not help.
I choose different time servers, but this didn't help either. I tried manually inputting the time, but this is no good either.
The only thing that resolved the issue is changing the time zone to GMT -07:00 . However, this is NOT my correct time zone. My correct time zone is Mountain and should be GMT -06:00. This is what I have had it set to and this setting has worked correctly until recently!
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slow mo @ 30th Oct 08:50AM:
Re: [Equipment] PAP2T incorrect time
said by crazyk4952 :
I tried rebooting, unfortunately, this did not help.
I choose different time servers, but this didn't help either. I tried manually inputting the time, but this is no good either.
The only thing that resolved the issue is changing the time zone to GMT -07:00 . However, this is NOT my correct time zone. My correct time zone is Mountain and should be GMT -06:00. This is what I have had it set to and this setting has worked correctly until recently!
For DST rule to work, time zone should be set to standard time. In your case, it should be Mountain time zone GMT -7:00.
My PAP2 has the same rule but time zone GMT -5:00 because I am in Eastern time zone. The time is correct.
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PX Eliezer @ 30th Oct 09:29AM:
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said by crazyk4952 :
. However, this is NOT my correct time zone. My correct time zone is Mountain and should be GMT -06:00.
I know this was already said, but:
USA Eastern: GMT -5
USA Central: GMT -6
USA Mountain: GMT -7
USA Pacific: GMT -8
I'm sorry, but I had a good laugh out of this.
You seem to have forgotten the existence of the Central time zone, which gave us John Belushi as well as Da Bears....
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(The Paris Meridian is the "Rose Line" referred to in "The Da Vinci Code").
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PX Eliezer @ 30th Oct 09:38AM:
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One of the benefits of Greenwich is that 180 degrees east or west of Greenwich is mostly the Pacific Ocean (not land) so it was a convenient place for the International Date Line.
Obviously adjustments had to me made for Siberia and for various islands.
The late Arthur C Clarke wrote a light short, "Trouble with Time", set on Mars, where, since there is no ocean in which to put the International Date Line, one can step from one day to another on dry land - with amusing results when not knowing that it's Sunday has results fatal to a projected crime.
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crazyk4952 @ 30th Oct 10:17AM:
Re: [Equipment] PAP2T incorrect time
said by PX Eliezer :
I know this was already said, but:
USA Eastern: GMT -5
USA Central: GMT -6
USA Mountain: GMT -7
USA Pacific: GMT -8
OK, so maybe I am a little comfused. When I go to »www.time.gov and click on the Mountain time zone, it shows my time as UTC -6 hours Daylight Savings Time.
However, when we go back to standard time, the Mountain time zone will be UTC -7 hours? Is that right?
And for the daylight savings time rule to work correctly in the PAP2T, the time needs to be in standard time?
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PX Eliezer @ 30th Oct 10:30AM:
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Yes on all counts. The purpose of the rule is to ADJUST for DST automatically. So keep your time zone as USA Mountain: GMT -7, all year round.
By the way, in the United Kingdom, Daylight Savings Time ended LAST Sunday (October 25).
I bet that's when your issue started?
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crazyk4952 @ 30th Oct 11:15AM:
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said by PX Eliezer :
By the way, in the United Kingdom, Daylight Savings Time ended LAST Sunday (October 25).
I bet that's when your issue started?
I don't know the exact day, but it is possible that the problem started on the 25th.
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toro @ 30th Oct 11:27AM:
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Are you sure the string is correct ? Yours is
start=3/8/7/2:00;end=11/1/7/2:00;save=1
Mine (which appears to still work correctly) is
start=3/8/7/2:0:0;end=11/1/7/2:0:0;save=1
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crazyk4952 @ 30th Oct 11:33AM:
Re: [Equipment] PAP2T incorrect time
said by toro :
Are you sure the string is correct ? Yours is
start=3/8/7/2:00;end=11/1/7/2:00;save=1
Mine (which appears to still work correctly) is
start=3/8/7/2:0:0;end=11/1/7/2:0:0;save=1
I tried your string and it did not make any difference.
Also, oddly enough, my PAP2T switched back to -6:00 on its own....
I changed it back to -7:00. I'll see if it stays this time.
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toro @ 30th Oct 11:36AM:
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Is your PAP2 set to provision its own settings from a VoIP provider ?
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dcurrey @ 30th Oct 11:37AM:
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I have "start=3/2/7;end=11/1/7;save=1" so I guess I am off 1 hour until 2:00 am.
BTW my time is correct. Does this mean my March start is wrong. I thought it worked right last spring.
BTW2: Toro is in Canada I think. For some reason Bush figured we needed to adjust DST differently than everybody else. So the rules are different.
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dcurrey @ 30th Oct 11:40AM:
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Original thread discussing this.
»Sipura/Linksys PAP2 users -- don't forget your DST settings!
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trev @ 30th Oct 11:41AM:
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said by dcurrey :
BTW2: Toro is in Canada I think. For some reason Bush figured we needed to adjust DST differently than everybody else. So the rules are different.
Nah, we copied your DST change to save the headache of doing business with you guys who would have a different time for two weeks of the year.
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dcurrey @ 30th Oct 11:48AM:
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Didn't know that. :)
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brg @ 31st Oct 10:47AM:
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said by PX Eliezer :
The late Arthur C Clarke wrote a light short, "Trouble with Time", set on Mars, where, since there is no ocean in which to put the International Date Line, one can step from one day to another on dry land
Read that; a long time ago.
There are any number of places where you can straddle the date line on Terra. I've done so in Taveuni, Fiji. Took the obligatory picture of one foot on either side of the rather small official marker...
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EarloftheWes @ 31st Oct 11:03AM:
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I had this problem.
If I remember correctly, it was associated with my router's time being off by an hour.
Anyway...
These are my settings and they work fine:
start=3/8/7/2:0:0;end=11/1/7/2:0:0;save=1
GMT-08:00
Primary NTP Server: time.nist.gov
Secondary NTP Server: time-a.nist.gov
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mb @ 31st Oct 04:48PM:
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The appropriate page from the admin guide is attached. Note that it was written before the latest change in daylight savings time rules
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dcm @ 1st Nov 01:07AM:
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My PAP2 successfully switched from 1:59 AM to 1:00 AM :)
DST rule start=3/8/7/2;end=11/1/7/2;save=1 GMT -5:00
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TelSat @ 1st Nov 10:47AM:
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I see different DST rules. I would have to read the Sipura Administration guide.
Here is mine and it works fine; start=3/8/7;end=11/1/7;save=1
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PX Eliezer @ 1st Nov 10:54AM:
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That simpler rule
start=3/8/7;end=11/1/7;save=1
would kick in as soon as Sunday began, that is, midnight.
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The more complete rule
start=3/8/7/2;end=11/1/7/2;save=1
would kick in Sunday at 2:00 AM which technically is the rule.
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crazyk4952 @ 1st Nov 11:28PM:
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said by dcm :
My PAP2 successfully switched from 1:59 AM to 1:00 AM :)
DST rule start=3/8/7/2;end=11/1/7/2;save=1 GMT -5:00
After changing it to GMT -7:00, it now seems to work just fine. It also correctly switched over to standard time this morning.
Thanks for everybody's help
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PX Eliezer @ 1st Nov 11:33PM:
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Good news. :)
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And hopefully that concludes our twice a year discussion of Daylight Saving Time.
See you in March !!
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dcm @ 1st Nov 11:57PM:
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said by PX Eliezer :
See you in March !!
Um, don't you mean 3/8/7/2. :p
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