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SUMware @ 30th Oct 03:20PM:
Airport Security


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jvmorris @ 30th Oct 03:33PM:
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Oh, it's magic word time! ;) Where's the list of 20 words one should never say when going through a TSA security checkpoint? :D
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SUMware @ 30th Oct 03:36PM:
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Since the pic is a png and not text, I don't think that you have much to fear in this thread. So far... ;) 'Laptop' could be added to the list, although some visually astute TSA screeners may recognize such an item on sight, without needing accompanying verbal cues. 'Battery/batteries' could now also be added. Hope that the 'list' is alphabetized for TSA users.
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Rob @ 30th Oct 03:48PM:
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That's awesome. This is something I would expect Sheldon from Big Bang Theory to be telling a TSA agent.
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jvmorris @ 30th Oct 05:30PM:
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said by SUMware :

Since the pic is a png and not text, I don't think that you have much to fear in this thread. So far... ;) 'Laptop' could be added to the list, although some visually astute TSA screeners may recognize such an item on sight, without needing accompanying verbal cues. 'Battery/batteries' could now also be added. Hope that the 'list' is alphabetized for TSA users.
I think you missed my point. ;) The words 'bomb' and 'explosion' are not words that any prudent person dare mention in going through TSA airline security. "Terrorist/Terrorism" are two more. And there are quite a few others.
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Cudni @ 30th Oct 05:38PM:
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said by jvmorris :

The words 'bomb' and 'explosion' are not words that any prudent person dare mention in going through TSA airline security. "Terrorist/Terrorism" are two more. And there are quite a few others.
agreed, best kept in a cartoon format

Cudni
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SparkChaser @ 30th Oct 05:43PM:
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said by Cudni :

said by jvmorris :

The words 'bomb' and 'explosion' are not words that any prudent person dare mention in going through TSA airline security. "Terrorist/Terrorism" are two more. And there are quite a few others.
agreed, best kept in a cartoon format

Cudni
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Air travel is enough of a hassle these days. I just keep my mouth shut and move along with the crowd.
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SUMware @ 30th Oct 05:55PM:
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What impressed me about the cartoon was that laptop batteries can be potentially weaponized. Yet they are regularly permitted on aircraft while many trivial items are not.
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DrModem @ 30th Oct 06:23PM:
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After going through airport security, I saw tons of potential vulnerabilities that could be exploited.

It almost led me to believe that the TSA is only there scanning stuff to make you feel safe XD
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jwersan @ 30th Oct 06:42PM:
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said by DrModem :

the TSA is only there scanning stuff to make you feel safe..
DING!
Here's your cookie. :D
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Kearnstd @ 30th Oct 06:52PM:
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so while its nice to see them try to be secure i know full well that like anywhere else one goes in life, if someone wants to cause harm they will.

and i still find the fears of water bottles unfounded, how many liquid explosives exist that can be safely transported and simply mixed like that stuff in Die Hard 3.
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KrK @ 30th Oct 07:05PM:
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"Allah Ahkbar" would have to be high up there.

Calling the TSA officer an "infidel" would probably not speed things along much either :D
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lorennerol @ 30th Oct 07:11PM:
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"C4"
"No I won't remove my shoes"
"My virgins await"
"I was in *istan last month"
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kerriskandie @ 30th Oct 07:29PM:
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I know quite a few people who claim they regularly get through airport security, with a knife ( pen knife, lock knife etc) in their carry ons...

So how good is at all anyway......only good fro removing water and babyfood, I guess :hmm: :hmm:
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Its a Secret @ 30th Oct 08:39PM:
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said by jvmorris :

Oh, it's magic word time! ;) Where's the list of 20 words one should never say when going through a TSA security checkpoint? :D
Hi, Jack!
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shimonmor @ 30th Oct 09:38PM:
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On three separate occasions I've gotten through security with my camera bag which has a lead-lined "x-ray proof" pouch for my film (yes, I still shoot film). The pouch is large enough to hold a .45 handgun. And it wasn't searched. I, of course, never said anything for fear of reprisal (isn't it great to live in fear of government officials). This wasn't done on purpose...I just don't want my high speed film (or any of my film) subjected to x-rays...no matter what the TSA says about the effects of said x-rays. Sure makes me feel "safe" flying the friendly skies.
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SUMware @ 30th Oct 10:01PM:
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Several years ago I was flying from Schiphol in Amsterdam to southern France.

Like you I was carrying several rolls of slide film (good old Kodachrome 64) and requested a hand inspection to avoid the X-ray scanner (a service typically offered in the US at that time).

The guards hand inspected the rolls but absolutely forbade me to board the aircraft until the film was fed through the scanner. They said that the plane would not wait for me. I 'argued' but was forced to concede as time ultimately ran out. I was the last to board. My slightly discolored slides are an unexpected souveneir of that event. The Dutch inspectors were polite, but firm.

said by shimonmor :

isn't it great to live in fear of government officials
In theory, in a true democracy, the elected and accountable government is supposed to fear the wrath of the public. Because the public truly wields the power. This is still true in real democracies. But not so much in undemocratic systems.
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VikingBob @ 30th Oct 10:18PM:
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That cookie in jwersan's post could be made of C4 and food color...
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ff1324 @ 30th Oct 10:21PM:
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said by VikingBob :

That cookie in jwersan's post could be made of C4 and food color...
So what? It still looks yummy!

I still wonder what the TSA agent at Tampa airport was thinking when she said my 8 month old had to go through the metal detector on her own...

She probably just wanted the cookie.
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Loco @ 30th Oct 11:37PM:
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TSA does a pretty good job.
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Dude111 @ 31st Oct 12:23AM:
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quote:
It almost led me to believe that the TSA is only there scanning stuff to make you feel safe XD
A good point!
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mikedz4 @ 31st Oct 12:40AM:
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I walked through security with my watch and glasses on. The alarm didn't sound like it should have. Had to take my belt, empty my pockets and my shoes off though.
Thought about walking through the airport with my pants around my ankles because they made me take off my belt but thought better of it.

Now why don't they let normal people in the airport. Just make them go through the same security procedures that passengers do but give them their own lane to go through and make them have to show their licence and social security card as well. Plus give them some kind of arm band like a purple one to show they passed screening and are allowed to shop or do whatever in the terminal?
just a question.
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SLD @ 31st Oct 01:42AM:
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Once I got into an argument with the TSA because he wanted to feed my $1,200 watch through the X-Ray before I was ready pass through. This of course goes against all travelers' warnings, as it can be stolen by anyone on the other side of the scanner. Even easier if you beep when you go through. He insisted it was a threat, but let my wife have it without an inspection.
I got sent to the ridiculous extra inspection area. The guy there was very apologetic and did almost no check. I spoke to the supervisor about how the guy didn't even check the threatening watch and she said my behavior is what prompted the "secondary". I wasn't fully compliant, so I obviously was a threat.

Earlier this year, I dropped my dad off at the airport. An airport policewoman insisted on checking my trunk as I was closing it (he had just removed his bag). I refused unless I was obligated by law. She pointed to a sign that apparently overruled probable cause - the ACLU never did get back to me on that, and the police station didn't care - said something about homeland security. Yeah, right!
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BurntCricket @ 31st Oct 02:04AM:
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Why do some people like to stir up the shit then wonder why the room stinks?

I don't fly much, but the last four trips(all four after 9/11) through airport security took MAYBE twenty minutes TOTAL.

Ticket and ID please
Thank you, have a nice flight

NO hassles and no special searches.
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mikedz4 @ 31st Oct 02:38AM:
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why do I have to take off my belt? I shouldn't have to take off my belt. How the hell can i blow up an airplane with a belt? What am I going to do, point it at the stewardess? They would just laugh in my face. I thought this was "the land of the free and the home of the brave" as per our star spangled banner? What happened to our freedom? Has anyone ever asked our elected officials in washington that question when they have these televised or internet debates?
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Mele20 @ 31st Oct 03:13AM:
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I have to pop the trunk to park the car at the airport. I guess they think someone might have a bomb in the trunk that would blowup part of the open air parking lot? I don't understand the need for that at all. I wonder why they look in the trunk before allowing you in the parking lot but not under the car?

I have to put my Hawaiian heirloom gold bangle bracelet (worth about $1500) in one of the little bowls as it will ALWAYS, at all airports, set the scanner off. The first time they made me remove it I freaked. It has never been off my arm for 35 years except to very infrequently clean and polish it. I hated having to remove it and I was very afraid it would be stolen and sure enough, the scanner went off anyway and I was pulled over for a "special" screening and I couldn't see my bracelet and all my rings they made remove also (one was an unusual apple green, translucent, carved jade ring worth quite a bit). I asked the TSA agent to please get my purse and the bowl with the jewelry and put it near where they made me stand for the secondary inspection. The agent refused. I started yelling and crying and the commotion attracted a lot of attention and finally the agent went over and fetched both items. Then the agent poked and prodded and was generally nasty simply because I was worried about my jewelry being stolen why they tried to figure out why the scanner was still going off (it was the metal hooks on the back of my bra and the underwire).

That happened about three years ago and more than once. I didn't travel again until this summer and my rings don't set off the scanner but the bracelet still does. Luckily, I have a bra now that has metal hooks and underwire but it doesn't set it off like all my others do so I can usually get through the scanner with no problem and keep my eye on my bracelet and get to it as it comes through the scanner. Although, this last trip a couple of weeks ago, everything of mine came through the scanner but the bowl with the bracelet. I asked the agent three times about it before he even looked toward me. Then he looked around for it and found the bowl had fallen on the side of the conveyer still inside the scanning area and the bracelet was out of the bowl sort wedged in there. I was lucky to get it back. I don't want to not wear it when traveling as it has never been removed all these many years. I feel naked without it.

This last trip about ten days ago, there was a very elderly, stooped man in front of me. He could manage (barely) to walk with his big cane but the agent took it from and put it through the scanner doorway. It didn't go off. I figured the agent would hand the cane back to the man so he could go through the scanner. But no, even though the man plead for it, and started getting very confused, and could not even shuffle to the scanner door way without his cane. The younger woman with him who had a child with her had already gone through the scanner. She turned around and tried reach through the scanner doorway to grab his arm and help him through the scanner as the agents kept telling him that he had to walk through without the aid of his cane. One agent pushed her away roughly and insisted that he walk through unaided. During all this, I was directly behind him in the line so my bracelet and purse, shoes, shopping bag with glasses, etc. had already long gone through the scanner and no TSA agent was watching that stuff as they were all riveted on the poor old man who was very feeble and bent over from osteoporosis being abused. Anyone on the other side could have pocketed my bracelet or taken my purse, etc. The daughter who was not allowed to hold her father's arm to help him through made a scene and finally a supervisor came and helped him through. It was the sort of thing one expects in NON free countries but here?
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Grail Knight @ 31st Oct 06:20AM:
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quote:
why do I have to take off my belt?


Perhaps because belts make perfect places to hold a weapon.

»www.bowenknife.com/knives_belt_main.shtml
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mikedz4 @ 31st Oct 06:33AM:
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next time ill go through with no pants on and see what happens.
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jvmorris @ 31st Oct 07:37AM:
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said by Grail Knight :

quote:
why do I have to take off my belt?


Perhaps because belts make perfect places to hold a weapon.

»www.bowenknife.com/knives_belt_main.shtml
Must admit I'd forgotten all about that.
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Grail Knight @ 31st Oct 08:13AM:
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There are so many weapons available and it is not expected that citizens would need or care what they are to begin with.
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Tuxified @ 31st Oct 08:27AM:
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said by VikingBob :

That cookie in jwersan's post could be made of C4 and food color...
And eating it could result in "explosive" diarrhea.
Therefore cookies should be banned.

We should do it for the children,...or at least or the adults with childlike minds.
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techjoe @ 31st Oct 09:43AM:
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I recently flew out of O'Hare and I had two carry-on. One bookbag with some clothes, laptop, notebook, cables, etc. The second was a large box with a NAS raid array enclosed inside of a large alum heatsinked case. I had coiled ethernet cables in the box with it and in my other bag.

So the first item through the scanner is of course the NAS. This older TSA guard was running the xray and he must have looked at the NAS for 10 minutes flat. "Hmm" *pushes a button* "Hmmm" *pushes a button* "Hmmm".

I have a strange feeling I was about 30 seconds from the Special Inspection.

Coming home from the other airport the TSA folks didn't break from their chitchat to give anyone a second glance.

It's hit and miss I guess..I was fully expecting some hassle on the NAS though, just because it had to leave an odd impression on the XRay scanner and the coils couldn't have helped the case..

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Second amusing tidbit. My old boss threw a stink over some TSA request after 9/11, something about unpacking some of his bag or etc. Well, he got the little mark on all of his tickets (a D I think it was? forget offhand) and was subjected to extra screening every time going forward.

Just bite your tongue and move on through, it doesn't pay to even try to fight it.
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jefe @ 31st Oct 09:46AM:
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Y'know, I thoroughly hate that somehow we've allowed ourselves to come to the point where ordinary citizens going about their business have to be subjected to the....annoyance (I can't think of a better word) of airport security. I really hate it.

But I've asked myself if I'd be willing to disband airport security screening and just take my chances when I board an airplane with 250 other passengers, none of whom I know.

The answer, to myself is yes, I'd be willing to do that. Not be screened and take my chances. But then I ask myself how about my grandchildren? And the answer is no way. No way would I let them get on an airplane when any whack-a-do could easily be carrying a weapon on board, and use it to make heard his personal point-of-view.

I don't know about anyone else reading this, but I knew someone who was actually shot and killed by a hijacker in the Good Old Days before there was such as thing as security. He'd still be alive if today's security measures were in place back then.

There is, of course, no such thing as being 100% secure. Airport security is a cat-and-mouse game, much like computer security. The good guys come up with a better lock. The smart bad guys devise a better lock pick. But, unfortunate as it is, we are safer when we travel by airline because a casual loony can't be packing his .357 when he walks through the boarding door and sits down next to you.

We can't go back.

/diatribe
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Mele20 @ 31st Oct 09:57AM:
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But the choice you have made is for your grandchildren to grow up in a nation that is no longer "the land of the free and the home of the brave". I would make the other choice as who wants to live in constant fear and slavery? We made the wrong decision in Nam and have gone downhill ever since. As a child, I was so proud to be an American. That was during the Cold War and I wanted Kennedy to blow the Cubans to hell. I have always understood the sacrifices that everyone must make for freedom and liberty to prosper but our nation has completely lost it way and the terrorists have won...a long time ago.
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jefe @ 31st Oct 10:15AM:
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I guess, Mele20, that if I have to choose between my grandchildren being denied some basic freedoms I had when I was their age, or increasing the possibility of them being killed by some deranged maniac, I choose the loss of some freedom.

I know. I know. The kids, or anyone else, might be killed in an accident driving to the mall on any day. But there's something about air travel that attracts the lunatic fringe and I'm convinced none of us would be willing to accept the mayhem that would beset air travel if security were completely eliminated.

I read your rants here all the time. In fact, I think you ought to write a book: "Mele20's Rants." It would be a large volume. But I have to ask you this...what are you personally willing to sacrifice for freedom the way you think we should enjoy it? Do you have children and/or grandchildren, and would you happily see them die in service to your lofty perception of freedom?

You quote Thomas Jefferson, but are you willing to die, literally, or send your children or their children to their deaths, so you don't have to stand in a security line to get on an airplane?

What price are you willing to pay?
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SLD @ 31st Oct 10:26AM:
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Yeah, I refuse to put my valuables through the box scanner until I'm up for the beeper. That way I minimize the potential for theft. Even better, I'll wait until my wife goes through, but sometimes with a little child, it can be difficult.
In Houston, they actually have a family line where the security measures are different - very nice comparatively.
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Bobcat @ 31st Oct 11:44AM:
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Airport Security in Colombia: Compare and Contrast
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Multiple studies have found that security in US airports is no better than before 9/11, so critics often decry various TSA measures as merely "security theater."

One wonders, then, what non-theatrical security might look like.

After having been through airport security in Colombia four times in the last week, I'm thinking I should share with the rest of the class. (Not saying they have things perfectly right, by any means. Just sharing what I saw.)


Follow the link for more. (Contains some foul language)
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jvmorris @ 31st Oct 12:41PM:
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On the face of it, departure security checks are much more reasonable (i.e., as in personally less intrusive) at Heathrow (London, UK) than at Dulles (Washington, DC). I go through each about three or four times a year now.

Heathrow is not exactly a small airport, for either domestic or international travel. Of course, no one really knows what happens with checked baggage, but with my carry-on (typically a camera bag and a laptop packed with all sorts of accessories), they do occasionally "pop the top" and check it out, but it's all done amazingly quickly. The queues at Heathrow (at least at Terminals 3 and 5) pale into insignificance when compared with the queues at Dulles. All in all, the security personnel at Heathrow seem far more professional, organized, and knowledgable than their TSA counterparts at Dulles. They know what questions to ask before running film through X-ray machines, but -- if you're going to the US -- they'll also likely remind you that what will pass in the UK may be irretrievably damaged in the US.

Nowadays, security personnel armed with MP5s (or somesuch) are much less obvious than they once were (but I'm sure they're still there).
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mikedz4 @ 31st Oct 01:16PM:
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i absolutely despise flying. If it wouldn't take two days to drive down to floriday and two days to drive back i wouldn't fly at all. I'm not a terrorist. Run my name off of an crime database when I make my airline reservations, see that I don't have any criminal history and give me a ticket saying that i can fly without screening.
Only the terrorists or people on the watch should be screened. On second thought deny them a ticket to begin with.
But oh no, in this land of the money hungry,lawsuit happy american we would sue because they were doing that. How about the old way of screening and like i said letting people be free to move around the airport, shop, watch planes, pickup family,etc.
It was a pain not knowing if my dad would be there waiting for me when i got home from florida.
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jvmorris @ 31st Oct 01:28PM:
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With all due respect, if you are a frequent flyer (international or otherwise) and especially if you do online check-in, you're effectively being pre-screened now. (not quite so true for domestic budget airlines and shuttles between urban areas). And that includes checking for criminal records and the watchlist (which, admittedly, is still something of a joke).

Now this is entirely different from the Express Security service that some upper class travellers use. But I think that's largely a scam on the one hand (for people and business people with more money than they need), and, on the other, likely a gaping hole in air travel security.
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Bobcat @ 31st Oct 01:37PM:
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And when some terrorist gives a bomb disguised as a piece of electronics equipment to some girl he met somewhere, the plane will be blown up because the girl wasn't on any watch list.
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mikedz4 @ 31st Oct 01:55PM:
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i'm not saying have no screening just don't make people basically disrobe in order to go through screening. I shouldn't have to take off my belt in order to board an aircraft. What happened to that xray machine you were supposed to be able to go through in order to bypass taking off ur clothes.
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Bobcat @ 31st Oct 02:52PM:
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Read the link I provided about security in Colombia.
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NetFixer @ 31st Oct 03:12PM:
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said by SUMware :

I was carrying several rolls of slide film (good old Kodachrome 64) and requested a hand inspection to avoid the X-ray scanner (a service typically offered in the US at that time).

The guards hand inspected the rolls but absolutely forbade me to board the aircraft until the film was fed through the scanner. They said that the plane would not wait for me. I 'argued' but was forced to concede as time ultimately ran out. I was the last to board. My slightly discolored slides are an unexpected souveneir of that event.
I had a similar experience in Dallas. I put my film in a clear plastic zipper bag and requested hand inspection (per the posted instructions). The security agent politely took the bag, looked it over and then put it in the xray scanner. I did not even get the chance to argue. This was exposed film, and all the images from a two week backpack trip were fogged and discolored.
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shimonmor @ 31st Oct 03:19PM:
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In 1998 I was flying out of Tel Aviv in Israel and they know how to do security checks. This was before 9/11, of course, but it was the most thorough security check I've been through and I felt safer for it. It was quick, efficient, and run by smart people. While waiting to go through the metal detector, a young lady in uniform (about 25 years old) goes through the line asking people simple questions. What were you doing in Israel? Who did you see? Where are you going? Innocuous questions. But she asked them fast and furious and even repeated a couple of questions to make sure. She was a human lie detector. She made my head spin. I didn't know what hit me and I didn't realize what had happened until I collected all my belongings and my composure at the gate. I think I would have revealed my deepest and darkest secrets if she had asked. It was subtle but effective and once I did collect my composure, I realized that these people know, live and breath security. What we have here in the US is pathetic and should not be called "security" but a circus.
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DrModem @ 31st Oct 05:10PM:
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said by shimonmor :

It was quick, efficient, and run by smart people.
That never happens in the US :p
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uber69er @ 31st Oct 05:16PM:
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said by DrModem :

That never happens in the US :p
What the country or airport security? :D
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OSUGoose @ 31st Oct 05:26PM:
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.....................At projecting a false sence of security?

.....................At absoulely nothing

Should i go on?
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OSUGoose @ 31st Oct 05:34PM:
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The hassle or lack their of is all airport specific. One aiport will be screaning-natzi's while another let it all go.
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NY Tel @ 31st Oct 06:15PM:
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said by mikedz4 :

next time ill go through with no pants on and see what happens.
I tried that once and got a warning for trying to smuggle fruit or something like that. :p
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DrModem @ 31st Oct 06:30PM:
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said by uber69er :

said by DrModem :

That never happens in the US :p
What the country or airport security? :D
Quick efficient security run by smart people :p
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jwersan @ 31st Oct 06:48PM:
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The reality of airport security is that MOST of what we go through is entirely unnecessary, and useless. The tools to effectively screen passengers is denied to security personnel by the "PC" police.....

Profiling.

Profiling will catch MORE "criminals" than all the TSA security.

I'm not saying that all "Arabic" people should be pulled from the line and interrogated, but there are MANY "clues" that profiling will catch, that WILL catch the "criminals" that they are trying to "screen" for in the first place.

The second problem with TSA security is that MOST of the employees are NOT qualified to guard a doghouse let alone our flying safety.

Until they allow TRUE screening by TRAINED screeners, we are no safer than we were PRE 9/11...

If anything we are in even MORE jeopardy...
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mikedz4 @ 31st Oct 07:04PM:
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I was talking to the person at the checkpoint in orlando on my way back from disney. Apparently they make less than i do an hour. Something between 7 and 8.50 an hour.
Plus I also realized it won't stop people with mental problems who forgot to take their medicine from doing something stupid. Some lady who obviously forgot to take her medicine got pissed that she couldn't board first and took off her shoes and flung them at the person behind the counter at the gate. She screamed obscenities at the lady for 7 or 8 minutes until tsa people came and pulled her to the side. I swear every passenger at the airport was gathered around watching the spectacle. Why did it take so long for security to get there though? What if she hid a knife in her bra or underwear or had a gun hidden somewhere?
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public @ 31st Oct 10:30PM:
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said by jwersan :

The reality of airport security is that MOST of what we go through is entirely unnecessary, and useless.
That is because you are missing the point. The purpose of the racket is to collect money to keep cronies employed.

The second problem with TSA security is that MOST of the employees are NOT qualified to guard a doghouse let alone our flying safety.
Since they could not find a real job, such cases end up in police departments or "security". That why bushies created "homeland security" in the first place.
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Loco @ 1st Nov 11:06PM:
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said by OSUGoose :

Should i go on?
If you feel like rambling on, then sure.....go for it.
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waldoooo @ 4th Nov 07:05PM:
Re: Airport Security

said by lorennerol :

"C4"
"No I won't remove my shoes"
"My virgins await"
"I was in *istan last month"
if they ask you where you are going it probably isn't smart to reply "Paradise", even if you are headed to Hawaii
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