[TWC] "Turbo boost" defeats accuracy of bandwidth tests!!! Page 2

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Vchat20 @ 1st Nov 02:56PM:
Re: [TWC] "Turbo boost" defeats accuracy of bandwidth tests!!!

Here's the rationality of the matter: Speedtests should only be used to check if your connection is operating as it should. Though many use it here as e-peen comparison, that is not its primary use.

If you are hitting powerboost speeds, guess what? It works! But if you are hitting less than your actual paid for package (10/1, 15/2, etc.) then something is up somewhere.

Powerboost does not affect latency so that doesn't even enter into it and can still be accurately measure with or without powerboost.

And powerboost will not function unless there is leftover bandwidth on the node. So if it is already at capacity, you will only get your rated speed or less. Those with powerboost packages will not be overloading it so much that 'you can kiss your bandwidth goodbye'

Any questions class? You are all dismissed.
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anon @ 1st Nov 03:09PM:
Re: [TWC] "Turbo boost" defeats accuracy of bandwidth tests!!!

Hey, Mehs

First off, calling people "tin foil hat wearers" reminds me of the tactics of your socialist-rulers-in-waiting who call those who oppose them racists, tea-baggers, or rednecks.

Now to the subject at hand: the deliberately misleading advertising of cable broadband providers. They advertize "up to" 4 MB/s, or whatever, and that is the bandwidth of the single drop cable and equipment they provide. Then, in high occupancy areas, they split this up between dozens of subscribers. They technically fulfill their promise, because "up to" 4 MB/s includes 0 MB/s.

As part of my economic free-market right to switch providers, I need to evaluate cost vs. service. Other people might try to do this, too, and I wanted to point out that they will base their decision on misleading information. I don't know if powerboost is a deliberate attempt to defeat this evaluation, but I do know that cable providers advertize in such a way as to promote the misconception that you get a direct link to the network node.

I think that the original model of splitting bandwidth up in this way (similar to the old rural phone company party lines) was once valid, because bandwidth demand was sporadic. But with all the streaming media of today, it is a deceptive business practice to claim to provide a bandwidth that is not sustainable beyond periodic bursts. There are times of the day when bandwidth demand is high for multiple users and the demand is continuous. So even low bandwidth, high-importance tasks (like online banking) can get timed out.

I'm happy for you if you live in an area where your bandwidth is not shared among dozens of users, but that is not the case everywhere.
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anon @ 1st Nov 03:27PM:
Re: [TWC] "Turbo boost" defeats accuracy of bandwidth tests!!!

Hi, Vchat20

I always get my "rated speed"! What is my rated speed? It is "up to" 4MB/s, which includes 0 MB/s. Guaranteed! If they delivered more than 4MB/s, I guess I could technically ask for my money back. If it is zero, then Time Warner fulfilled their part of the deal! :o
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maartena @ 1st Nov 03:35PM:
Re: [TWC] "Turbo boost" defeats accuracy of bandwidth tests!!!

Just test downloading a large file from a fast host, such as downloading a linux ISO from a fast mirror, or a big service pack from Microsoft etc. Select something that is 300 Mb+ in size. Download it, and you'll know what your download speed is.

Powerboost is usefull though, especially with things like Youtube, where the first 10 seconds of video buffering make all the difference.
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Steve Mehs @ 1st Nov 04:32PM:
Re: [TWC] "Turbo boost" defeats accuracy of bandwidth tests!!!

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They advertize "up to" 4 MB/s, or whatever, and that is the bandwidth of the single drop cable and equipment they provide. Then, in high occupancy areas, they split this up between dozens of subscribers. They technically fulfill their promise, because "up to" 4 MB/s includes 0 MB/s.

You have to do better then that. What about the 'deliberately misleading advertising of telco broadband providers'

Verizon FIOS
Download up to 25 Mbps / Upload up to 15 Mbps
»www22.verizon.com/Residential/Fi···lans.htm

Verizon DSL
Download up to 3 Mbps / Upload up to 768 Kbps
»www22.verizon.com/Residential/Hi···lans.htm

AT&T DSL
Downstream Speed: Up to 6.0 Mbps
Upstream Speed: Up to 768 Kbps
»www.att.com/gen/general?pid=10938

Qwest DSL
Connection speeds up to 3Mbps
»https://myaccount.qwest.com/MasterWebPor···Hsi=true

Frontier DSL
At up to 3 Mbps, FrontierFast High-Speed Internet is
»www.frontier.com/products/Produc···=1&p=511

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but I do know that cable providers advertize in such a way as to promote the misconception that you get a direct link to the network node.

I've never heard that claim by TW or any other cable company, I have heard that claim by the telcos when they advertise DSLOW though.

I don't know about you, but when I'm downloading large service packs or videos off of iTunes I do apperciate that extra boost of speed at the beginning of the download.
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Vchat20 @ 1st Nov 05:15PM:
Re: [TWC] "Turbo boost" defeats accuracy of bandwidth tests!!!

said by TWC_loser :

Hi, Vchat20

I always get my "rated speed"! What is my rated speed? It is "up to" 4MB/s, which includes 0 MB/s. Guaranteed! If they delivered more than 4MB/s, I guess I could technically ask for my money back. If it is zero, then Time Warner fulfilled their part of the deal! :o

As Steve Mehs has already stated, you'll get this wording with any residential ISP. Even the almighty Verizon itself with their FiOS packages. On the same token all residential ISPs /will/ help try to fix problems if you don't reach more than a certain percentage of your paid for speed tier as long as you have proven that it is not your own equipment and is on their end. If you are only topping out at like 500kb/s and you have a 15mbit package, call Time Warner and have it fixed. Easy as that.
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