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anon @ 4th Nov 10:00PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

said by sticchio :

called bell for a nid they wanted $99 for it(calling back tommorrow)
It's $99.00 to start and goes up depending on the time it takes. Normally they go up quick.

They have to install them for free in certain circumstances but if money isn't an object.....
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Oinktastic @ 4th Nov 09:35PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

Bell wanted to charge me $99 for a NID install as well.

I actually ordered the install online with one of their chat reps who spoke with suspiciously structured language for someone who often lacked common grammar.

I actually was in a slightly different situation where I was not quite sure if my line was grounded, and I also did not have a proper demarcation point. I just kept repeating those two things in different ways until they agreed to waive the fee :)
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Bicephale @ 4th Nov 09:40PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

Hi Sticchio,

You're not recording any Error Rate data, will
you please try the links provided in this post:

»Re: New 2 Wire modem for Total Internet - Unlockable Line Stats?

...and find the exact URL needed to get these:

DSL Corrected Blocks
DSL Uncorrected Blocks



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dslrocker3 @ 4th Nov 09:47PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

said by Bicephale :

DSL Corrected Blocks
DSL Uncorrected Blocks



gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=J42
gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=J45
gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=J04

any of these pages can provide those results
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Bicephale @ 4th Nov 09:48PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

Oh, thank you! but which one can be parsed by 'RouterStats'?


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dslrocker3 @ 4th Nov 09:53PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

the last 2 should work (J45 and J04)

J45 is simply a text file (user could simply use the most recent/last value listed in a category to calculate the amount of change at each interval)

J04 is a standard page from the basic interface and will give daily totals and totals from the past 15 minutes

J42 is an advanced MDC modem diganostic page. It will give error totals on each training session. however, I'm not sure if you can access the full graphical page by simply typing in the address I provided above. The user might have to first go to
gateway.2wrie.net/mdc and then click on DSL Dianostics.

»/speak/slidesh···01MjA%3D
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sticchio @ 4th Nov 10:08PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

dslrocker3-i can't get to this page

gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=J42

bi- do you still want stats with errors?

what do you guys do with this info?
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dslrocker3 @ 4th Nov 10:14PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

said by sticchio :

dslrocker3-i can't get to this page

gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=J42

bi- do you still want stats with errors?

what do you guys do with this info?
Please see above when I said that you might not be able to get into that page until first going to gateway.2wire.net/mdc
and then enter the modem's password. The J42 page is then accessed by clicking on "modem diagnostics". A screen capture/picture of that page would be nice.
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Bicephale @ 4th Nov 11:24PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???


In my opinion DSL statistics with no Error Rate
content are of little interest if not pointless!...

Now, doesn't this illustration help you at all?



RouterStats - 2Wire XSLT Page B04 3rd Column
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Bicephale @ 4th Nov 11:26PM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

Here's the tutotial again:


From the ground up!, Bicephale, 2009-Feb-22

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sticchio @ 5th Nov 01:02AM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

pulled from 2 wire

what is it?
Click for full size
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Bicephale @ 5th Nov 01:54AM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

This is an ASCII drawing similar to the green/blue part of this 'DMT' capture:


New teksavvy customer slow download speed???, Sticchio, 2009-Nov-3

So, did you make any progress or were my last two posts totally useless?...


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dslrocker3 @ 5th Nov 06:13AM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

said by sticchio :

pulled from 2 wire

what is it?
Ok, that provides us with a total amount of errors since you turned the modem on and maximum sync rates at them moment but how long was the modem on for so we can guage how many errors you are getting per minute or hour? The J04 page mentioned earlier would be good for that. Or we could use Routerstats to document the errors.

gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=J04 (you might have to first go to gateway.2wire.net/mdc and then click on "Detailed Statistics") which will give us limited error statistics for the most recent 15 minutes and 24 hours.

gateway.2wire.net/xslt?PAGE=J45 will give us error statistic for a maximum of a few days since the modem was last powered up in 15 minute intervals. That would be slightly more useful. (ZIP the file or something because the text file would be too long to post on the message board).

Is that 2wire screenshot, the cropping made some information that can be valuable not visible. Things such as dslam vendor, echo cancellation amounts, profile rate, etc. Although not absolutely necessary, having the whole page visible would have been nice.

There still is some instability in the line. It might not be enough to cause a any problems but I know about the instability because of the way that your downstream attainable rate changed by a few hundred Kbps since you turned the modem on.

The DLY number of 0.25 (in milleseconds) indicates tht you are on the "fast path" setting.

If the modem was on for only a short period of time, the CRC errors could be a concern. If the modem has already been on for something around 24 hours, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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dslrocker3 @ 5th Nov 06:23AM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

Bicephale, you are right about the B04 page. Earlier, I mistakenly pointed to the J04 page. The J04 will still provide us with those number but because it is an MDC page, that won't work with Routerstats. For use with Routerstats, B04 does indeed have to be used instead.
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Bicephale @ 5th Nov 10:45AM:
Re: New teksavvy customer slow download speed???

Thanks for the confirmation, at least the next
time i face a 2Wire owner i'll have something
instructive to show him!!! You know, i was a
bit disapointed not to obtain the information
from Mauricio but it turns out you mentioned
the B04 page before in an old post of another
thread! I had to search for quite a while but
i came across that post, luckily. So, now we
all know where 'RouterStats' can read noise
counters via its internal parser, by combining
its log-file to that of 'RouterStats-Lite' it may
possible to collect a complete statistics set:
'RouterStats-Lite' has 2Wire pre-set options.



I'm curious to see if this will lead somewhere.


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