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Croaker @ 4th Nov 11:31AM:
Re: The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement

I follow.

What I'm saying is that they'll simply send out settlement offers, say at $3500, to every one including the dead.

Think of it as our new and improved levy.
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El Quintron @ 4th Nov 11:50AM:
Re: The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement

said by DabberDan :

Would you care to explain how this would be done?
My (un)educated guess would be this:

Judicial authorities (Gov, Police) would care about your browsing history and social networking history.

The MAFIAA would care about file sharing. So you would probably need to adopt something to hide your tracks there; Usenet SSL maybe?

Thirdly, I would say use a good strong Open Source encryption format should you computer's hard drive fall into the wrong hands.
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chronoss2009 @ 4th Nov 12:40PM:
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a few lessons about law , as is the acta agreement would in fact be ilegal to enforce in Canada,
go read up on the charter of rights and freedoms and you will see why. AND trust me they gonnna have a awful time getting changes done to the charter

don't forget also that NDP is keeping hte govt in power and that all both the NDP leader and the liberal leader are part of the IP lobby movement ( both are in writers unions whom are pro holly wood in IP stances )

and note that the new copyright bill coming will definately screw the heck out of the law(s) that currently protect you/me and end the levy so they can start lawsuits. I want part of that 450 million they got form it back if so.

and this is and would be tantamount to a warrantless search and seizure of my data.
IF they think your up to somehting goto a damn judge if we all a sudden dont need judges lets get rid a them and proclaim the CEOS of the country as the only people able to vote

we either have democracy that we fought for in worlds wars 1 and 2 or we don't
lets quit the pissing around with corporate rights.
Me thinks some old men need a smack right upside the fucking head
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MaynardKrebs @ 4th Nov 12:55PM:
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said by chronoss2009 :

a few lessons about law , as is the acta agreement would in fact be ilegal to enforce in Canada,
go read up on the charter of rights and freedoms and you will see why. AND trust me they gonnna have a awful time getting changes done to the charter

don't forget also that NDP is keeping hte govt in power and that all both the NDP leader and the liberal leader are part of the IP lobby movement ( both are in writers unions whom are pro holly wood in IP stances )

and note that the new copyright bill coming will definately screw the heck out of the law(s) that currently protect you/me and end the levy so they can start lawsuits. I want part of that 450 million they got form it back if so.

and this is and would be tantamount to a warrantless search and seizure of my data.
IF they think your up to somehting goto a damn judge if we all a sudden dont need judges lets get rid a them and proclaim the CEOS of the country as the only people able to vote

we either have democracy that we fought for in worlds wars 1 and 2 or we don't
lets quit the pissing around with corporate rights.
Me thinks some old men need a smack right upside the fucking head
Despite the occasional random nature of your posts, I think that you are on to something with respect to the Charter. The thoughtless assignment of our rights to international corporations and the abrogation of our rights to governments abroad is clearly not what the Charter permits.

...raising a cold frosty one to Trudeau for the Charter...
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GyroCaptain @ 4th Nov 01:55PM:
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said by Big Nose :

Of course with a Conservative government in power Canada will lay down and do whatever America tells us to do.
Bwahahaha. You have it backwards. LIEberals will rat you out in Ontario far far sooner than the Cons ever will.
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chronoss2009 @ 4th Nov 02:02PM:
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no geist had a deal with a bunch a liberals and NDP
then iggy came to power and they back tracked on it en masse.

The conservatives also brought you Bill c61, what's there excuse?
what is the excuse of going to ctv.ca and seeing whats at the bottom of the website and releasing your news there and WHOSE part of that site ? BCE? Throttling , caps ?

get the big picture son. and know that BIG players in the USA are part of EVERY ISP here as much as they are legally allowed and thats usually enough to swing the company the direction they want.
AND YOU PEOPLE want them to have more control by giving that power directly to the conservatives.
We need in that setting and elected CRTC OR one proportional to the sitting membership in the house of commons.

DO NOT ever tell me the conservatives are pro customer and pro consumer OMG the arrogance of such minds in this country is just ...how are you able to cross a street with out that conservative telling you when where and how?
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Croaker @ 4th Nov 02:03PM:
Re: The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement

The liberals started Lawful Access (ISP disclosures without court oversight) and Copyright reform (C-60?) when they were last in power.

Hopefully, when more people equate this nonsense to making iPods illegal - it'll get more play.
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chronoss2009 @ 4th Nov 02:04PM:
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not the point were talking about now, your effectively defending the cons cause they did it too.
BOTH are bad and i htink the liberals might have learned to get power they have to listen to people. HARPER cant do that which is why he will never get a majority govt he cant play nice. AND tell me one conservative republican govt that has ever been rpo consumer and pro customer and ill yell out my window that im gay as a fruit cause its never happened EVER. PRO INDUSTRY PRO IP PRO OIL PRO BIG BUSINESS PRO GREED
screw you screw unions screw me screw your mother your dad yoru fmailly so they can get bribed off at election time.
BRIBED OFF LIKE they tried with CADMAN a dying man.

the secret doc in question which many of you dont have would make ALL p2p software that isnt used by a liscned industry illegal
aka all your ftp programs , you torrent programs news group programs etc ITS very very disruptive and you might even say browsers that allow streaming without DRM in it. IT puts DRM right into your arse.

AND im still calling anyone doing this sort of behind the scenes crap a traitor , just like they say with cameras if you got nothing to hide why hide. PERFECT use there own shit against them.

IF its a treaty SHOW US EVERYTHING else its treason you cant have law without debate over it PERIOD
last i checked its still democracy. YOUR CONS are presiding over a UNDEMOCRATIC treaty and using UNDEMOCRATIC moves. That forget about our charter i wonder what the UN charter also has to say about such blatant disregard for rights.
My grandfather fought in WW1 and WW2 for us to have these rights not get some wanker bankers and greedy hollywood shrub nubs to take them away for a buck.

IF your so worried about piracy fraking lower prices and make htings better available to people.
GOOD lord ya cant beat piracy with a 30$ CDR liek i saw in 2005 at futureshop
AINT GOING TO HAPPEN and it puts the whole thing in maffia and gangs hands and then you start seeing money for it.
Think alcohol........1930's
it cost me almost 1$ now for a blank cdr wihtout a case
without labels
why should a movie over the net where i use bit torrent effectively paying for distribution cost more then 50cents
they have taken soooo long to get there that its now acta or die
instead a having done the right thing 12 years ago they waited and let 2 generations get schooled in free with a levy
you take that way your gonna see massive losses in sales i give up on them there is no hope.
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