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Fencepost @ 7th Nov 01:37AM:
Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

Edit: link fixed

I picked up an HTC Tilt 2 (aka Touch Pro 2) from AT&T a couple of weeks ago. One of my first priorities was figuring out how to make free VoIP calls using Google Voice and Gizmo.

I finally got it working to my satisfaction today using the following free programs:

iDialer (Google Voice version)
iContact

Fring (configured with my Gizmo settings)

I use iDialer to originate the call through Google Voice, using my Gizmo5 account as the callback number. I use Fring to answer the call.

This works on both wifi and 3G. I've tested it only on my device using Windows Mobile 6.5, but I assume it should work on earlier versions and other devices as well.

I posted complete instructions on my blog for anyone who's interested:
»www.fromthefencepost.com/2009/11···t-2-att/--
Detailed instructions and tips for Google Voice, Gizmo5, Linksys SPA2102, and Nokia N810: »www.fromthefencepost.com/categor···-gizmo5/

My home page: »www.FromTheFencepost.com/

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sgarrand @ 7th Nov 11:27AM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

Your link gives a 404. It appears this one is the blog post: »www.fromthefencepost.com/2009/11···t-2-att/

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Fencepost @ 7th Nov 12:22PM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

said by sgarrand :

Your link gives a 404. It appears this one is the blog post: »www.fromthefencepost.com/2009/11···t-2-att/

Scott
I fixed the link. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Detailed instructions and tips for Google Voice, Gizmo5, Linksys SPA2102, and Nokia N810: »www.fromthefencepost.com/categor···-gizmo5/

My home page: »www.FromTheFencepost.com/

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mel2000 @ 7th Nov 03:01PM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

said by Fencepost :

I posted complete instructions on my blog for anyone who's interested:
»www.fromthefencepost.com/2009/11···t-2-att/
Excellent tutorial that could be improved with screenshots.
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neftv @ 7th Nov 03:24PM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

So in theory you only really need to data plan to make this work right?
Isn't there a SIP client software you can use and deal directly with a voip provider? It just seems like your using multiple services to make this work. Also, this way you could have 911 if you didn't have a cell voice plan.
Does your method use the same mic and ear piece to talk to someone like you would with a regular cell call? Or do you need a headphone/mic plugged in a jack of the phone?

I have a Blackberry Curve (8310) so forgive the stupid questions. Only thing available is a GV dialer which I use but it uses the cell minutes not data minutes from my phone.
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kieranmullen @ 7th Nov 08:51PM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

Interesting.

What do you estimate your monthly savings when outgoing calls ona ppm basis are .01 us ?
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Fencepost @ 8th Nov 12:27AM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

said by neftv :

So in theory you only really need to data plan to make this work right?
Isn't there a SIP client software you can use and deal directly with a voip provider? It just seems like your using multiple services to make this work. Also, this way you could have 911 if you didn't have a cell voice plan.
Does your method use the same mic and ear piece to talk to someone like you would with a regular cell call? Or do you need a headphone/mic plugged in a jack of the phone?

I have a Blackberry Curve (8310) so forgive the stupid questions. Only thing available is a GV dialer which I use but it uses the cell minutes not data minutes from my phone.
This works on both wifi and 3G. If your phone functions as a PDA even without a Sim card, you could do this over wifi without a voice or data plan. The first device I set this up on was a Nokia N810 internet tablet with only wifi- no voice or 3G, and it worked fine.

This setup works with my regular Bluetooth earpiece that I use for normal voice calls.

Fring is a jack-of-all-trades app. It can be configured to work with any VoIP service that uses the SIP protocol, as well as Skype, and several different chat services. If I wanted to, I could make Gizmo5 calls directly from Fring. The point of using Google Voice to originate calls is so Gizmo will treat every call as a free incoming call.
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Detailed instructions and tips for Google Voice, Gizmo5, Linksys SPA2102, and Nokia N810: »www.fromthefencepost.com/categor···-gizmo5/

My home page: »www.FromTheFencepost.com/

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Fencepost @ 8th Nov 01:01AM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

said by kieranmullen :

Interesting.

What do you estimate your monthly savings when outgoing calls ona ppm basis are .01 us ?
I do not have a POTS landline and haven't since 2005. Long story short, I used 3 different VoIP services before switching to Google Voice. I now have a Linksys SPA2102 configured with my Gizmo settings. I originate all my calls from Google Voice, which essentially gives me free domestic home phone service. The only time I pay anything for VoIP service is if I want to make an international call.

I spend anywhere from 2-6 hours per week on conference calls with my business partners. Other than that, I don't spend much time on the phone, so let's assume that range covers my entire monthly usage. Whenever possible, I use my Google Voice setup for these, so here are some rough calculations:

120-360 minutes per week = 480-1440 minutes per month.

On a 1 cent per minute basis, that's $4.80-$14.40 per month that I save by using the Google Voice workaround.

My current cellular voice plan is AT&T's cheapest family plan with two phones sharing 550 minutes per month, which costs about $60 per month plus tax. I usually have unused minutes at the end of each month. Before discovering VoIP, I paid $90 per month for AT&T's 1400 minute plan, so that's a $30 savings right there.
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Detailed instructions and tips for Google Voice, Gizmo5, Linksys SPA2102, and Nokia N810: »www.fromthefencepost.com/categor···-gizmo5/

My home page: »www.FromTheFencepost.com/

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espaeth @ 8th Nov 02:20AM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

That seems a bit more complicated than it needs to be?

$30 SERO 500 minute plan
$5 Sprint2Home unlimited calls to/from home number

Asterisk configured w/ DISA (CID + Passcode security)
$3.99/mo 4000 minute DID from Vitelity
$0.000/min TF termination

So for $38.99 + some taxes I can participate in more TF conference calls than any single human should be subjected to.

I post up about 300-700 minutes per month in TF conference calls from my cell phone, and since it's just a regular call through Asterisk I can use my phone anywhere including in the car (big problem for fring since data doesn't work too well through multiple tower jumps) and even roaming on other networks since it is voice only service.

It just seems to me like using Asterisk or any provider that provides "virtual calling card" functionality in combination with the "My Faves" plans that mobile carriers are handing out these days would be the easiest way to go.
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Fencepost @ 8th Nov 03:53AM:
Re: Free Google Voice calls with Windows Mobile 6

said by espaeth :

That seems a bit more complicated than it needs to be?
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I post up about 300-700 minutes per month in TF conference calls from my cell phone, and since it's just a regular call through Asterisk I can use my phone anywhere including in the car (big problem for fring since data doesn't work too well through multiple tower jumps) and even roaming on other networks since it is voice only service.

It just seems to me like using Asterisk or any provider that provides "virtual calling card" functionality in combination with the "My Faves" plans that mobile carriers are handing out these days would be the easiest way to go.
I think complicated is in the eye of the beholder. I've done just enough research on Asterisk for your setup to look hopelessly complex and intimidating to me. Maybe I've got this all wrong, but I perceive Asterisk as being fairly complicated to set up, and I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand much of the information I've found so far.

If I was still with T-Mobile and had their Faves plan, I'd just set my Google Voice number as one of my Faves. Google Voice has unlimited domestic calling, and calling card functionality similar to what you described with your Asterisk setup. I could either program the necessary pauses and passcodes into my contacts, or I could use a program like iDialer to automate the process.

I don't like to talk much in the car, so my cell minutes are more than adequate for the occasional call. When I'm on a conference call I'm almost always at home and stationary, so I don't have to worry about tower jumps or roaming.

To be honest, I probably won't use Fring that much. Because most of my lengthy calls happen from home with my GV/Gizmo/ATA setup, I'm unlikely to run out of minutes, and if I do, I've accrued plenty of rollover minutes. I mainly just wanted to see if it could be done (and get some traffic to my blog).

It sounds like you've found an ideal solution for your use case. Maybe someday I'll look more closely at Asterisk.
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Detailed instructions and tips for Google Voice, Gizmo5, Linksys SPA2102, and Nokia N810: »www.fromthefencepost.com/categor···-gizmo5/

My home page: »www.FromTheFencepost.com/

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