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anon @ 5th Mar 10:01AM:
16/1 speeds comcast
anybody know how the speeds test are going in virginia? any info on when other parts of the country will get tested or start getting it.cant wait my torrents are waiting lol.:D
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jmn1207 @ 5th Mar 01:37PM:
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I just recently signed up with Comcast HSI 16/1 in Reston.
Here is some recent test information that I have gathered.
Generic Speed Tests:
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FTP Downloads:
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Vamp @ 5th Mar 01:38PM:
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According to »/archive?zip=&···t=Search
A lot of the eastcoast already has it in testing, unless those speed tests are just incorrect tests of the 8mb package, which it could be because the upload tests are low.
Im sure it will follow the same upgrade pattern as before, summer.
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jmn1207 @ 5th Mar 02:04PM:
Re: 16/1 speeds comcast
said by Vamp :According to »
/archive?zip=&···t=SearchA lot of the eastcoast already has it in testing, unless those speed tests are just incorrect tests of the 8mb package, which it could be because the upload tests are low.
Im sure it will follow the same upgrade pattern as before, summer.
These are not just tests from an 8MB connection. I just moved to Reston, it really is a 16/1 line. I could give the MAC address to a technician to verify my modem config file. My tested upload speeds vary a little bit but they typically stay around the low 900's or high 800's.
I use an early generation Linksys WRT54G router (Ver. 1.1) and I have an older, beat-up, used Terayon TJ 715 modem. I will be getting an Arris cable modem on Wednesday when the CDV is installed.
My line quality seems to be holding up very well.
Ping Tests:
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And here is a Line Quality Test result:
»/quality/nil/1997546
 Doctor Ping Results |
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gate1975mlm @ 5th Mar 03:23PM:
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WoW can't wait to get those speeds here in Philly! :)
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NewLife @ 5th Mar 03:27PM:
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And what is the pricing for this 16/1 service? With that much bandwidth I might be able to actually run my VoIP PBX system with excellent quality.
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jmn1207 @ 5th Mar 03:33PM:
Re: 16/1 speeds comcast
said by NewLife :
And what is the pricing for this 16/1 service? With that much bandwidth I might be able to actually run my VoIP PBX system with excellent quality.
I'm paying the same price as the Premier speeds. $10 more than regular speeds, or $52.95/month. The basic $42.95/month speeds in my area are 6M/768.
Edit: You would probably need something a bit more asymmetrical for your PBX system. My uploads are not that much of an improvement.
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NewLife @ 5th Mar 04:02PM:
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said by jmn1207 :
You would probably need something a bit more asymmetrical for your PBX system. My uploads are not that much of an improvement.
Well, compared to the 384 up I get with Bellsouth right now, it would be a great improvement.
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grembowski @ 7th Mar 05:57PM:
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16/1 sounds great! I've been very please with 8/768 in Washougal, WA. Just had a tech out here to replace my DVR with a newer model (bigger hard drive), and he mentioned that the gold tier is going to 10Mb from 8.
Guess I'll just have to wait and see if it will be 10 or 16 :-)
TTFN,
Grem
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jmn1207 @ 7th Mar 06:03PM:
Re: 16/1 speeds comcast
Increased upload bandwidth would be far more practical than an outrageous download speed for me. I'd rather have 4/2 than 16/1. It would be a difficult choice to decide between 16/1 and 2/2 for me. It just depends on how the connection is used.
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MrBradTX @ 7th Mar 06:30PM:
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Agree that standard 6000/384 service seems a little pokey when uploading 120 pictures to winkflash. I'd pay an extra $5/month for 768 up, but not the $10 currently asked.
Verizon FiOS is advertising 4000/2000 for $39/month.
Anybody know what the upstream is like on Road Runner? (I'm in an "impending swap" market.)
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gate1975mlm @ 7th Mar 06:30PM:
Re: 16/1 speeds comcast
said by jmn1207 :
Increased upload bandwidth would be far more practical than an outrageous download speed for me. I'd rather have 4/2 than 16/1. It would be a difficult choice to decide between 16/1 and 2/2 for me. It just depends on how the connection is used.
Not me more download the better! :)
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Loose Wire @ 7th Mar 06:48PM:
Re: 16/1 speeds comcast
said by grembowski :
16/1 sounds great! I've been very please with 8/768 in Washougal, WA. Just had a tech out here to replace my DVR with a newer model (bigger hard drive), and he mentioned that the gold tier is going to 10Mb from 8.
Guess I'll just have to wait and see if it will be 10 or 16 :-)
TTFN,
Grem
Well, I hope it's not 10mb since I already have that.
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ditka_b @ 7th Mar 07:01PM:
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Last Result:
Download Speed: 1765 kbps (220.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 709 kbps (88.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Well on my 8.0/768 this is the best test this week so 16/1 I should get 300k? lol
And I want to thank comcast for having me stay home ALL DAY from work saturday and then calling me and saying I wasnt home WAY TO GO!!!!!!!
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acrufox @ 8th Mar 02:42AM:
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Although those speeds are nice and all, aren't things being stretched a wee bit too thin here? :P Sure just under 1 Megabit upload can handle it, but at such high speeds...there is no leeway to do anything else!
In this household for example, two gamers, one of them being myself. When I was on Comcast 3.0/384 plan, whenever I'd do some gaming and someone else was doing e-mail or sending family photos over their chat client of choice the connection choked. You'd be lucky to attain even 1 megabit speeds if someone was sending large e-mail attachments.
One can only fathom with Comcast's 3 in one plan, VOIP, Internet, and cable tv service, and offering a measly 1 Megabit outgoing? With two gamers going, DHCP overhead from downloading at those speeds, literally multi-tasking anything outgoing related, it wouldn't take much to make a 16 Megabit download drop drastically in speed to something much much lower.
Offering 16/1 is just downright silly. A roar from a lion for downloading and barely a meow from a kitten for upstream. Oh yes ::rollseyes:: if we give them 16/2 they'll run a server. Even though Comcast doesn't enforce it....that includes hosting a game server. Host a game on your computer with 8+ players, it wouldn't be long if someone else in the house was downloading a large game patch started complaining their speeds are dropping.
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jmn1207 @ 8th Mar 01:10PM:
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A properly configured connection should not be adversely affected when uploading. At least not to the point where your connection is useless until the upload is complete. I have had 3 simultaneous uploads with large files to YouSendIt and continued to stream high quality music, browsed the internet, and even downloaded an ~8MB video file without any noticeable degradation.
Other scenarios had me sending a couple of emails with 5MB's of photos attached while talking over Skype, listening to Rhapsody Music services, and chatting in the lobby waiting for an online poker tournament to begin.
A jump from 768k to 1m may not seem too significant but it is a 33% increase in bandwidth.
As for Comcast's Digital Voice service, it operates on a completely different frequency range than the HSI and neither of them should cause any significant impact on performance on the other. At least that is what I have come to understand from reading about the technology.
I suppose I will find out for sure, today, sometime between 5pm and 8pm.
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motoracer @ 8th Mar 02:27PM:
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"When I was on Comcast 3.0/384 plan, whenever I'd do some gaming and someone else was doing e-mail or sending family photos over their chat client of choice the connection hoked."
Email sure does take up a lot of bandwidth doesn't it;):p
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acrufox @ 8th Mar 02:31PM:
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When I was on 3/384 I could easily impact my incoming speeds. At the time I was downloading a linux distro and was topping out at 3.0 speeds, around the same time I sent a 5MB file to a friend on ICQ and watched my incoming drop from 3.0 to 1-1.5 speeds.
Now FF to today. Incoming speeds have increased over 5 fold while the outgoing has barely tripled. 3-16 speed jump is impressive yes, but in the same breath 384-1
Megabit isn't as impressive. You still have to control your outgoing and do some kind of throttling of speeds on your outgoing so you don't cut into that outgoing that cuts into the DHCP overhead that directly cuts into your incoming speed. :/
Comcast should be offering 16/2 not 16/1, that outgoing is just way too low.
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BIG b @ 8th Mar 03:49PM:
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You could benifit from setting up bandwidth limits on the upload side ... That way you will have enough to go around ... Less upload speed per user but no more "choking"
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indigoblu @ 8th Mar 08:01PM:
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Its the nature of the technology. Perhaps with the recovery of analog spectrum, newer high performance docsis standards and signalling, and small node domains, we will see what you are looking for.
Give it a few years, as network convergence (service convergene: voice,video,data) occurs across all providers, network performance and competition will increase. Cableco's are kinda sitting on their but while teclo plays catch up... case in point: FIOS vrs HSI
Note: DHCP is an addressing protocol and has no overhead that you reference to. TCP is the overhead you might be refering to and its overhead is a semi-variable constant on any network.
Im just echoing the answer to your question that has been generally passed around this forum and the industry as a whole. I wait for syncronous connections just as egerly as you all.
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acrufox @ 9th Mar 03:24AM:
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I've been dealing with Verizon so much lately. I've been on the internet for a long time....heh
They keep referring to PPPoE being better than DHCP, less packet overhead etc. Regardless of it being true or not, I would choose DHCP any day. I dislike the idea of "dialing into broadband"
Even Verizon's 15/2 plan is very lopsided. Yes we wouldn't want users sharing illegal material at the speed of light but in the same breath, it's just a matter of time/technology when one sends a copy of their mini-DVD of their grandchildren and other relatives located far away.
I had to remote assist a person on Comcast once on 384 and 768, it was so laggy/slow redraw I had to dumb down the resolution and color depth to compensate. Yet if I had to remote desktop in from work, I could do it in true color without a worry in the world.
Comcast is trying to play catch up in cities they cannot stop companies like Verizon, but in the same breath ultimately fail. Hey why would I want 16/1 or 15/1 and end up paying more long term than Verizon offers. Especially when their outgoing is twice that of Comcast.
I used to swear by Comcast, but after being treated so poorly then getting two abuse letters that by today's standards would be a drop in the bucket. One has to ask, does any HSI have a leg to stand on? Comcast can up their speeds to keep up and in the process, clog up their networks in certain cities. Then there is FTTP, which is non profitable for the short term and looks bad to investors. Then there is DSL, which is severely limited by distance to a CO or RT. All ISP's have their uncertainties, but in Comcast's case I wish they would invest more in their network than just upping the speeds and hoping for the best.
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corkey @ 9th Mar 07:10AM:
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Geez, wish I could get that kind of speed!! I just coverted from Earthlink powered by Comcast (6Mbps/384Kbps) to Comcast's Game Invasion (8Mbps/768Kbps). My downloads aren't any better but my upload has gone up to 69XKbps. Interestingly, my downloads are sometimes worse than when I was on Earthlink.
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salwit @ 9th Mar 11:39AM:
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im right outside of Philly PA and iv been getting these speeds since last upgrade.but i was told they are going to be raising the cap again to 15/2 by july aroung here..
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Showing ZIP 19020 comcast.net
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12672/705 salwit @ 19020 9th 11:27AM hsd1.pa.comcast.net
12672/705 salwit @ 19020 8000/768 9th 11:28AM hsd1.pa.comcast.net
comment: 'im happy are you'
12562/705 salwit @ 19020 9th 11:25AM hsd1.pa.comcast.net
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99664227 @ 9th Mar 12:34PM:
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said by salwit :
i was told they are going to be raising the cap again to 15/2 by july aroung here..
And your source is from who? Or can we chalk this up as another Comcast rumor?
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gate1975mlm @ 9th Mar 12:44PM:
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2000 up LOL sure
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Johkal @ 9th Mar 12:45PM:
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That wouldn't make any sense dropping down to 15 meg. Logically they would make it 16/2 if anything, considering the acquisition of Adelphia with their 16/2 already in place.
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chuckboyer @ 9th Mar 02:24PM:
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Anyone know what the latencies are? We would sign up for their business service at 16/1 if their latencies were acceptable. Right now we are on a fixed wireless 2/2 connection.
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johonn @ 9th Mar 02:25PM:
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I just found this on Digg.com. I was messing around with speed test about 3/4 weeks ago when i was geting 9.87 almost every time on the down side. I figured it to be a little wierd so i pulled my router to find i was capping at 15.?? everytime. This was through wugnet speed test. location, north of Phila, PA
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anon @ 9th Mar 02:34PM:
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What part of VA, besides Reston, have this new High Speed? Any parts of Prince William County
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dadkins @ 9th Mar 02:36PM:
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I love that test! BitTorrent anyone? :o
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indigoblu @ 9th Mar 03:10PM:
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PPPoE is basicly the point to point protocol encapsulated in an ethernet frame (with TCP/IP below that). Because of this encapsulation layer, you actually have LESS efficientcy.
ethernet networks encapsulate data in an TCP/IP in an ethernet frame without any additional overhead. With a fixed MTU size with both meathods your going to get better performance if you not USING PPP (its just an additional layer stuffed into the ethernet payload) .
DHCP has NOTHING to do with network performance.... and is only using for automatic addressing.
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ItsEd @ 9th Mar 03:36PM:
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Hey guys,
Im in LA here, was wondering if anyone can confirm getting these speeds? I was wanting to upgrade to the gamer package, and was wondering if thats a good move here in LA. Im currently in hollywood planning to move to the west side.
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anon @ 9th Mar 03:59PM:
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Email pr0n sure does take up a lot of bandwidth doesn't it
Fixed.
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pipdipchip @ 9th Mar 04:12PM:
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Sweet. We've been dugg (digg.com).
Let's see those 16/1 speeds.
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anon @ 9th Mar 06:46PM:
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Yeah wish id get to see this, but no Verizon Fios anywhere in my area :(
F&$kers
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anon @ 9th Mar 06:53PM:
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i used fios, the 5/2 package. I typically get dl's of bout 700 and uploads of bout 250.
It has been completely reliable so far and no bandwith cap like they have with cable.
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anon @ 9th Mar 07:41PM:
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anyone have the TFTP server and the config file name for the 16/1 ? send me an email dysect05@gmail.com
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Vatoloco64 @ 9th Mar 07:50PM:
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Does anyone know if the new speeds will also be given to cable internet subscribers only or do you have to also subscribe to a cable TV package?
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ditka_b @ 9th Mar 08:00PM:
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dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-03-09 19:52:07 EST:
372 / 709
Your download speed : 372 kbps or 46.5 KB/sec.
That is 91.8% worse than avg. other reports from comcast.net
Your upload speed is much faster than down.. have you tweaked?
Im gonna tweak my way to DSL lol
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anon @ 9th Mar 11:08PM:
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HAHA i had the same thing happen. Stayed home all day, took off work. and there going to call me at tell me i wasnt home. so i told them i was home, the put me on hold, then the told me there apologise but they were short handed people and couldnt make it out there
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anon @ 10th Mar 08:27AM:
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East Coast (at least in CT), Optimum Online has 30down and 2 up available.
And only for an additional $10.00 a month.
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anon @ 10th Mar 11:32AM:
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That is why 'Quality of Service' features are so important...those simple SoHo routers from LinkSys and Netgear need to be able to support policymaps and QoS priorities so that you can give your gaming PC or gaming traffic higher priority than the HTTP or Bittorrent data flooding your connection.
Sheer bandwidth is useless unless you can have QoS.
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dadkins @ 10th Mar 01:10PM:
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said by RouterGod :
That is why 'Quality of Service' features are so important...those simple SoHo routers from LinkSys and Netgear need to be able to support policymaps and QoS priorities so that you can give your gaming PC or gaming traffic higher priority than the HTTP or Bittorrent data flooding your connection.
Sheer bandwidth is useless unless you can have QoS.
LOL! Here's a thought - kill your BitTorrent downloads when gaming? :uhh:
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jmn1207 @ 10th Mar 03:22PM:
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said by RouterGod :
That is why 'Quality of Service' features are so important...those simple SoHo routers from LinkSys and Netgear need to be able to support policymaps and QoS priorities so that you can give your gaming PC or gaming traffic higher priority than the HTTP or Bittorrent data flooding your connection.
Sheer bandwidth is useless unless you can have QoS.
The simple SoHo routers from Linksys and Netgear are implementing QoS features in their latest firmwares, plus, you can also grab third party firmwares that include this feature.
»[SunRocket] +[WRT54Gv4]+QOS
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cowticket @ 11th Mar 06:13AM:
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Fort Wayne Indiana on the 15th of March so they say :)
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BIG b @ 11th Mar 09:13AM:
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Why don't you tell them to bring it down South to Connersville ?:D
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Anonymous_ @ 12th Mar 04:21AM:
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said by jmn1207 :
I just recently signed up with Comcast HSI 16/1 in Reston.
Here is some recent test information that I have gathered.
Generic Speed Tests:
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FTP Downloads:
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let's see that i can do in photoshop or ms paint
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Cjaiceman @ 12th Mar 08:19AM:
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That looks about right, 90Mbps down and STILL only 1Mbps of up! :D
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Johkal @ 12th Mar 11:27AM:
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Are you assuming what jmn1207 posted is photoshoped?
Those speed tests are legitimate.
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jmn1207 @ 12th Mar 12:38PM:
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Not only are my speeds truly at the level those speed tests indicate, my latency has been phenomenal.
I am getting an average of 53.5 ms using Doctor Ping, which places my connection near the top of the list for other Comcast users, or any other ISP for that matter. My username can be found on the following list, which was certainly not photo-shopped by me.
»/beta/doctorpi···=Comcast
While these speed tests should not be solely relied upon for performance indicators, I did provide some large FTP download completions to show a real world result. Although, those images could just as easily have been fudged.
For what it's worth, you will find my username near the top of the Speed Test Results Archive for Comcast.net. Again, while possibly being inaccurate, at least I can show that I did not photo-shop these results.
»/archive?zip=&···t=Search
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schja01 @ 12th Mar 12:50PM:
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Upload bandwidth per node is the Achilles Heal (weakness) of the Cable Moden design.
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Anonymous_ @ 13th Mar 12:42AM:
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i will do the upload hold on
nvm there is no way to fix it
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anon @ 13th Mar 08:03AM:
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I'm curious when this speed is coming to Arlington, VA. Anyone have any ideas? I called Comcast and they said it was coming but they didn't know when (big surprise, half the time their sales/support people don't know services they ALREADY offer).
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fonzbear2000 @ 13th Mar 10:06AM:
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i cant wait for it to come to st. paul, mn.
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anon @ 13th Mar 06:59PM:
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:Ddude get a dlink 4100 gamer lounge router its inexspensive and can do it all.i donwload from 2 computers at once and still play games with a 60 to 40 ping.this router rocks get it you wont be dissapointed and with the new speeds coming it should be lots better.im looking forward to the download more than the upload because of that.
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JeepMatt @ 14th Mar 09:00AM:
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I wish they'd announce when (or if) the upgrade will happen. Verizon just strung up fiber in my backyard yesterday. At the pole in the corner of my yard, there's a huge spool of "Corning Optical Fiber"..lol.
If Comcast does bump up to something like 16/1 - I really don't think I'll leave them.
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use_ssh @ 14th Mar 09:14AM:
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Haha! Nice MS Paint work.
Those speeds posted by jmn1207 are legit.
U_S
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99664227 @ 14th Mar 10:44AM:
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said by JeepMatt :
I wish they'd announce when (or if) the upgrade will happen. Verizon just strung up fiber in my backyard yesterday. At the pole in the corner of my yard, there's a huge spool of "Corning Optical Fiber"..lol.
If Comcast does bump up to something like 16/1 - I really don't think I'll leave them.
One can only dream, bro....
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TheGiant @ 14th Mar 03:17PM:
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16/1 crap I need a new router. My old lyksys only has a 10MB wan port. This will be holding me back if we ever get the upgrade. Time for a smoothwall build.
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99664227 @ 14th Mar 04:14PM:
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said by TheGiant :16/1 crap I need a new router. My old lyksys only has a 10MB wan port. This will be holding me back if we ever get the upgrade. Time for a
smoothwall build.
Why? My Linksys BEFSR41 Ver 3 works just fine.
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Johkal @ 14th Mar 04:18PM:
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10meg is 10meg. That's it. Not gonna get 16meg from a 10meg wan port.
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jmn1207 @ 14th Mar 04:45PM:
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said by 99664227 :said by TheGiant :16/1 crap I need a new router. My old lyksys only has a 10MB wan port. This will be holding me back if we ever get the upgrade. Time for a
smoothwall build.
Why? My Linksys BEFSR41 Ver 3 works just fine.
Your model is 10/100 Base-T WAN, it should be fine. Some older routers only handle 10 Base-T.
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TheGiant @ 14th Mar 05:01PM:
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BEFW11S4 V2/V3 user guild says WAN port is 10 half Duplex.
I guess I am doing good to get 8 out of it.
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