Japan Blimpband - 320 feet high, offering service for one kilometer
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Japan Blimpband
320 feet high, offering service for one kilometer
(old news - 10:40AM Friday Oct 28 2005)
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On the heels of "blimpband" trials in the UK comes word out of Japan of additional experiments with broadband airships. Operating at altitudes much lower than those in the UK or US (see Stratellites), the Japan trials have the airships tethered between 80-320 feet above the ground. At the latter height, the engineers believe they can transmit broadband roughly a kilometer (0.621371192 mile). Japan's goal is to get wireless & broadband service to the more remote mountainous regions of the country.

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ViniTheHat @ 28th Oct 10:30AM:
wow, quite an achievement.

this sounds like a stupid waste of time and helium.
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Blasterbator @ 28th Oct 10:35AM:
The next home-based business opportunity

How high can you legally fly a small tethered blimp? I see the ones used by retail businesses to attract people to grand openings and such. Do they need special permission to fly those?

1km would be roughly a 4 square km service footprint.
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snorpus @ 28th Oct 10:38AM:
Distance

Isn't a kilometer about 0.6 mile, not 3/4 of a mile?
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Vvian Kalyss @ 28th Oct 10:43AM:
Heh

Knowing the Japanese, I bet it isn't your standard dull grey ovoid-shaped blimp :D Doraemon, anyone?
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RayW @ 28th Oct 11:00AM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

Umm....why? Because it pollutes the scenery like BPL pollutes the airwaves?

I think it is a good idea, except for those in the RF shadow caused by the mountains they are trying to get around. Although if they are tethered on a peak and get a bit more altitude, then that might work out.
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DaMaGeINC @ 28th Oct 11:04AM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

Con
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voyager6868 @ 28th Oct 11:05AM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

How is a kilometer "roughly 3/4 of a mile"? LOL. 1 km = 0.621 miles. It's closer to 1/2 a mile than it is to 3/4 of a mile. Who writes the articles on this site??
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Blasterbator @ 28th Oct 11:06AM:
Re: Distance

nm
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printscreen @ 28th Oct 11:08AM:
Re: The next home-based business opportunity

Well, the US goverment has blimp-mounted radars in several places that are tethered and can go as high as 10,000 feet.
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SatelliteMan @ 28th Oct 11:15AM:
Sounds Great

For anybody that doubts the technology or usefulness behind this, all I can say is that smarter people than you and me are engineering this. If they think it's a practical way to spread broadband access, then it's more than likely going to work great.
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Brigrat @ 28th Oct 11:31AM:
Re: Sounds Great

Pardon the capitalist in me, but this seems more profitable than the UK version simply because the Blimps can provide Broadband, and act as giant flying bilboards every few Kilometers. Ad revenue, and service revenue at the same time. Plus this has to be cheaper than sending Blimps in to the stratosphere???
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Gwailo @ 28th Oct 11:50AM:
Huh?

said by voyager6868 :

How is a kilometer "roughly 3/4 of a mile"? LOL. 1 km = 0.621 miles. It's closer to 1/2 a mile than it is to 3/4 of a mile. Who writes the articles on this site??
"...Japan trials have the airships tethered between 80-320 feet above the ground. At the latter height, the engineers believe they can transmit broadband roughly a kilometer (0.621371192 mile)." :huh:
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funchords @ 28th Oct 12:01PM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

said by voyager6868 :

How is a kilometer "roughly 3/4 of a mile"? LOL. 1 km = 0.621 miles. It's closer to 1/2 a mile than it is to 3/4 of a mile. Who writes the articles on this site??
We do. Don't bitch about it -- write some articles!! »/news
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voyager6868 @ 28th Oct 12:05PM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

Thanks for correcting the article :)
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Blue cars @ 28th Oct 12:07PM:
Carnies over take Japan?

Can anyone imagine what the country will look like if this is deployed. Flying in would look like a carnival. Someone should tell the Japanese that in the US we have already invented a device called a "tower" to reach an altitude of 320 feet.

Sorry for the sarcasm, it seems a little ridiculous IMHO.
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Maarvin @ 28th Oct 12:12PM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

I am sure that things will work out just fine as long as the weather holds up.
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dadkins @ 28th Oct 12:41PM:
Re: Carnies over take Japan?

Ahem... here in The S.F. Bay Area, we have a 977 foot tower!

»www.jimprice.com/sutro/

Pound some wireless through this critter!

In Walnut Grove, CA, CBS 13 has a 2000 foot broadcast tower.
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Gwailo @ 28th Oct 12:51PM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

I'm not "bitching" at anybody. In fact, I made zero comment. I simply read the BBR intro and the article about the experiment here »wireless.itworld.com/4265/051028···e_1.html and did not see an error like this:

"How is a kilometer "roughly 3/4 of a mile"? LOL. 1 km = 0.621 miles. It's closer to 1/2 a mile than it is to 3/4 of a mile. Who writes the articles on this site??"

Calm down a bit.
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RickNY @ 28th Oct 12:55PM:
Amazing

It amazes me how every 3 or 4 months, everyone takes the bait with the whole article about blimps being used for broadband on BBR..
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ydoucare @ 28th Oct 01:13PM:
Re: Carnies over take Japan?

said by Blue cars :

Can anyone imagine what the country will look like if this is deployed. Flying in would look like a carnival. Someone should tell the Japanese that in the US we have already invented a device called a "tower" to reach an altitude of 320 feet.

Sorry for the sarcasm, it seems a little ridiculous IMHO.
rofl, I was thinking the same thing.
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Jerm @ 28th Oct 01:27PM:
The great Japanese Broadband Blimp Wars of 2012

See attached....
Click for full size
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voyager6868 @ 28th Oct 02:50PM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

Buddy... the guy was replying to me, not to you, so don't have a cow.

Secondly, the BBR article originally said that a kilometer was 3/4 of a mile, and then it was fixed after my complaint. That's why you don't see the error any more.

Does it all make sense now?
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Jafo232 @ 28th Oct 02:54PM:
Re: Amazing

I think the concept of a stratellite is a great idea, but these things tethered to the ground is just ridiculous. I mean who wants a freakin blimp in the sky over you all the time in plain sight?

What do these things do during a thunderstorm? Sounds like really tall lighting rods to me.
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shashinka @ 28th Oct 03:48PM:
Re: Carnies over take Japan?

well, towers are nice but probably more expensive. I think they could deploy more of these quicker and cheaper.
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dadkins @ 28th Oct 03:52PM:
Re: Carnies over take Japan?

said by shashinka :

well, towers are nice but probably more expensive. I think they could deploy more of these quicker and cheaper.
...and the first good storm... it's a memory
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shashinka @ 28th Oct 03:55PM:
Re: Carnies over take Japan?

or they could be retracted to a suitable position during the storm
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dadkins @ 28th Oct 04:11PM:
Re: Carnies over take Japan?

said by shashinka :

or they could be retracted to a suitable position during the storm
... and no more connection?
A properly tethered tower will withstand all but a hurricane and still be able to transmit.
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Gwailo @ 28th Oct 06:19PM:
Re: wow, quite an achievement.

said by voyager6868 :

..the BBR article originally said that a kilometer was 3/4 of a mile, and then it was fixed after my complaint. That's why you don't see the error any more. Does it all make sense now?
Makes perfect sense now. Thanks. I was wondering why the h--- the BBR article said "they can transmit broadband roughly a kilometer (0.621371192 mile)" I thought 0.6 was close enough or (0.62) if you're an account or really into conversions :D
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fullback @ 28th Oct 07:13PM:
Okay kids, listen up.

This was a project by some university students and used as a temporary setup at an expo. It was a useful experiment showing the feasablity as an inexpensive and easy-to-deploy temporary measure after a disaster, such as an earthquake or hurricane. They are not being considered for wide-spread deployment.
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mooty @ 28th Oct 08:32PM:
Swating gnats made for the big Lizard

Why don't they just beam the broadband signals off of Godzilla's forehead ? Haahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! Look !

Godzilla ! (paste picture of Godzilla here)
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Rogue Wolf @ 28th Oct 11:22PM:
Re: Heh

You may have stumbled upon a revenue source if this is ever deployed in the United States. Imagine a MetLife "Snoopy" blimp delivering your broadband... the Geico gecko... or a giant Donald Trump head advertising "The Apprentice"....

...maybe it's not such a good idea after all.... :hmm:

;)
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bastone @ 29th Oct 01:21PM:
Re: Swating gnats made for the big Lizard

Don't mess with the Big Guy GODZILLA; you'll be sooooooo sorry :o:D
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JimF @ 29th Oct 08:12PM:
Radio line of site

The radio line of site for an antenna 320 feet high is about 25 miles (40 km). They must be taking into account blocking by tall buildings, which would shorten the range accordingly.
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anon @ 13th Nov 01:41AM:
Blimps do not require a last mile satelite feed!

It is a floating tower in the sky acting as one big network from different areas, connecting one blimp to the next, therefore completing the last mile solution at a considerably reduced cost. A company by the name of Globetel Communications Corporation; AMEX (GTE). They are the parent of Sanswire Networks, LLC. This company is behind the creation of a system, such as the one that is suggested in the article, which is called the Stratellite. It is a rigid airship, for more info: www.globetel.net, www.sanswire.com.
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