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Jonbo298 @ 7th Aug 11:27AM:
Don't throw rocks at us! But...
We'll gladly keep throwing jabs back. Seriously, Comcast is acting like a bunch of babies. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the fire"
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NJxxxJon @ 7th Aug 11:31AM:
This promo sucks
This promotion started last year. DSL is not 3049937837,03983893 % slower than Comcrap. I know people who cant even get on more times then me in the summer. Same as winter. Turtles? .....why not just use crackheads....name them DSL-Stokers too. :uhh:
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ieolus @ 7th Aug 11:33AM:
Forget the speed...
..it is about the stability of DSL over Cable. I'll take that any day of the week over some lousy bandwidth.
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CO_Chris @ 7th Aug 11:36AM:
How is 1.5 faster ?
How is 1.5 faster then my cable 6.0 really Qwest you should have done a real test.Not everyone can get your 7.0 mps it's more like 5%
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N3OGH @ 7th Aug 11:41AM:
Love those turtles, but...
OK, from a totally impartial standpoint, I gotta say I love those turtles. The commercials are funny, well written, and very clever. I love the one where Bill is sitting at the diner, telling the waitress not to crowd him. Funny stuff.
But, I dropped Comcast a year ago for Verizon DSL, and I'm glad I did. Comcast was promising me (at the time) 6 MB down, and the best I could get from them was 3. That was with good numbers on the cable modem, mind you.
Verizon's DSL offering has been a totally different experience. The connection is rock solid. I've had one outage since I got the service,and that was a widespread outage. I consistently get the 3 MB down and 768 up I'm promised, and it's $10 a month cheaper.
Comcast touts themselves as the "BMW" of services. While this might be true (BMW's are know to have more quality issues than some other luxury imports), DSL is hardly the Hyundai. It's more like the Toyota Camry. Big enough and roomy enough to do the job for most, with excellent reliability.
Of course, if Comcast is the BMW, and DSL is the Hyundai, what does that make Fios????
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N3OGH @ 7th Aug 11:43AM:
Re: Forget the speed...
said by ieolus :
..it is about the stability of DSL over Cable. I'll take that any day of the week over some lousy bandwidth.
Agreed.
What's the point of bandwidth if you can't connect?
When I had Cable, the connection would go in the shitter every Sunday morning like clockwork. Drove me nuts. I want to read the paper on line, and nothing works.
Great way to spend a Sunday...
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MysticGogeta @ 7th Aug 11:44AM:
I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper
Taking a shot at Hyundai have they owned one recently? On topic DSL fails at offering penetration I'm unable to get it and every time I hear talk about it I can't help but laugh.
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Maxo @ 7th Aug 11:47AM:
Half the story.
In the war of who's faster it's all half stories. It really depends on where you live, what is available, what does it cost, and host stable is it? These factors will vary from area to area and blanket statements cannot be made.
At my house Comcast is faster. I don't know what it's stability is, but it's not more stable than my perfectly stable DSL. The reason I pick DSL in stead of cable is price. My 3.0M DSL is cheaper than the 8.0M cable. The extra price for the extra speed is not worth it.
And there is no way anyone can call my 3.0M connection slow. Pages pop up nice and fast. The only time I notice a difference is when grabbing ISOs. I'm certainly not going to pay an extra $20/month so when I grab an ISO it takes 5 minutes in stead of 9.
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AtlGuy @ 7th Aug 11:48AM:
Re: Forget the speed...
I totally agree. I guess I'm more like the "average user" where I couldn't care less about speed. I like a nice, stable connection, and that's what I've had for many years.
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Titus Pullo @ 7th Aug 11:48AM:
Sheee at!
I had to duck when I read the headline . . . :D
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Gbcue @ 7th Aug 11:51AM:
Comcast = Cingular
Comcast is the Cingular of cable companies. Sure, it's got great speed, but there's no point in that speed if you can't get connected and are always dropped. Same with Cingular, what's the point of the "fewest dropped calls" if you can't even connect a call in the first place!
I'll keep my ATT DSL and T-mobile for wireless.
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Jon @ 7th Aug 11:53AM:
And not that I do but...
If I wanted to host a server or download 6, 7 or 800 gigs a month I could. And without getting my service taken away. :)
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ninjatutle @ 7th Aug 11:54AM:
Re: Comcast = Cingular
T-Mobile wireless waahaaha :D
They're so crappy.
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Maarvin @ 7th Aug 12:01PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
Forget the speed, forget all of it! The bottom line is money, money, money. That's all.
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djrobx @ 7th Aug 12:06PM:
Re: Love those turtles, but...
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Of course, if Comcast is the BMW, and DSL is the Hyundai, what does that make Fios????
I think BMW is pretty apropos. Bimmers are very nice but not particularly known for their reliability. Hopefully, FIOS can be Lexus. Luxury AND reliability. ;)
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halfband @ 7th Aug 12:06PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
All depends on where you live. In my area [former bellsouth] it is DSL that is unreliable, if you can get it at all. Comcast cable is rock solid and fast. This could be reversed at the other end of town, I don't know.
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ztmike @ 7th Aug 12:06PM:
Comcast
Honestly, in my area its Comcast or Atat dsl, and Comcast is actually good in my surrounding area, good pings/stable, only thing im pissed about is the slow ass upload speed of 384, 8/768 is not included in their triple play so i cant get that. They need to up the damn upload speed already.
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xrobertcmx @ 7th Aug 12:13PM:
Re: Love those turtles, but...
I don't understand what is wrong with Hyundai. I owned one for years, and never had a single issue with. A lot of room, good handling, fantastic options package, all for less then the Toyota Yaris I drive now.
It just got lousy gas mileage in the city and at $3.00 a gallon, and $40.00 a fill up, I had to see it go.
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me2000 @ 7th Aug 12:15PM:
Re: Comcast = Cingular
said by Gbcue :
Comcast is the Cingular of cable companies. Sure, it's got great speed, but there's no point in that speed if you can't get connected and are always dropped. Same with Cingular, what's the point of the "fewest dropped calls" if you can't even connect a call in the first place!
I'll keep my ATT DSL and T-mobile for wireless.
I completely agree with you. My T-Mobile service has been awesome and the prices are cheaper too.
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ib50MbSoon @ 7th Aug 12:21PM:
Comcast goes the extra mile...
literally! I can't even get DSL, it basically trips over its own shoe laces a couple miles down the street.
Yet here I am, way out in rural backwater Coloma, with a smokin' hot 20Mb Comcast cable modem. It's rock-solid 24/7/365. Hell, I'll have DOCSIS 3 and 100 Mb speed before the clowns at the phone company ever actually deploy their U-Farce service.
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rradina @ 7th Aug 12:25PM:
Re: I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper
Agreed. Hyundai was #2 or #3 in JD Powers Customer satisfaction surveys. They've come a long way and what's rather bad for the incumbents is they do most of it with our labor here in the states.
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AtlGuy @ 7th Aug 12:26PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
said by halfband :
All depends on where you live.
Oh believe me, I realize that. I used to hear some friends complaining about Comcast here where I never really had any issues with my Bellsouth AT&T DSL, but I think that was mostly when Comcast first took over for AT&T Broadband. Now I rarely, if ever, hear anything bad regarding their connectivity.
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NetFixer @ 7th Aug 12:40PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
I will have to agree with that assessment. I have both a Comcast HSI and a Covad dedicated DSL connection, and there is no comparison between the reliability (and quality) of the two services (at least in my area).
Almost anytime there is even a hint of electrical storm activity Comcast (both HSI and TV) goes belly up, but my Covad DSL doesn't even hiccup. All my in-house networking equipment is on a UPS, so that is not part of the equation (along with the fact that this often happens when my utility power is still active).
I have two Vonage VOIP lines, and if I use the Comcast HSI 6600/384 connection most calls are like a cell phone call from a marginal signal area. Using my Covad 1536/384 connection for VOIP on the other hand produces ISDN quality calls. See my post: »Re: Best Vonage Settings for comparative VOIP test results.
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china crisis @ 7th Aug 12:41PM:
Re: Half the story.
said by Maxo :
The reason I pick DSL in stead of cable is price. The extra price for the extra speed is not worth it.
I'm certainly not going to pay an extra $20/month so when I grab an ISO it takes 5 minutes in stead of 9.
So why don't you save another $10 bucks a month and go Netzero if speed is NO FACTOR?
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Rob A @ 7th Aug 12:46PM:
Comcast...
Wow that is desperate, crappy ad campaign, misleading too.
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gargzo @ 7th Aug 12:49PM:
Comcast vs AT&T DSL
Well I had comcast and am now using AT&T DSL. I like it much better. Comcast had too many and too often slow downs.
I don't have that with AT&T DSL. I am an online gamer and my pings to most servers are usually among the lowest.
I like to think of Comcast being a Bonnieville Salts Flats car and my DSL as a Top Fuel Dragster. Comcast may in the end have a higher speed but my DSL gets there now! I could go faster than i do right now but saving a few buck per month is also important.
Also my upload with DSL is more, sort of helps me with my Slingbox.
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Amadeus @ 7th Aug 12:59PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
said by ieolus :
..it is about the stability of DSL over Cable. I'll take that any day of the week over some lousy bandwidth.
Yep you are 100% right. And plus since we are in a hurricane zone dsl usually comes back on faster than cable.
**Hurricane Wilma** ;)
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laura @ 7th Aug 01:00PM:
push it
you push it! push it real good!
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N3OGH @ 7th Aug 01:05PM:
Re: Love those turtles, but...
Current Hyundais are a good value and reliable, but back in the late 80's and early 90's, they were garbage. I can remember stories of dealerships being out and out abandoned because no one would buy one.
Hyundai's have gone a long way as far as quality and image. If I was in the market for a new car, I might consider one..
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Ahrenl @ 7th Aug 01:07PM:
BMW vs. Hyundai pretty apt..
Both can easily surpass the speed limit (ability of website to send data) but one costs a whole lot more.
Also, at least recently, I'd say that Hyundai has better reliability than BMW (which has specific mileages where key(ie. expensive) parts will almost always break; granted BMW has a $0 cost warranty, so generally you don't end up paying anything but time).
BMW will beat Hyundai everytime in a measured race, but if the goal is to get there while spending the least, Hyundai will win everytime. If you both have to get there without exceeding the speed limit, then it will always be tie. (unless your BMW breaks down)
When both are available at actual broadband speeds, they're both fine for their intended purposes at present.
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Drakemoore @ 7th Aug 01:08PM:
Re: Love those turtles, but...
Wouldn't Fios be a Ferrari? Then again I guess that would make OC connections more like far into the future cars :P
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PeteC2 @ 7th Aug 01:09PM:
Re: Half the story.
Try reading...he didn't say that speed was "NO FACTOR", rather that the extra speed was not worth the price differential...and for many, many folks, it is not.
If you need every last bit of performance, regardless of price, nothing wrong with that at all, but I pay less for DSL, at a speed that is quite good, with absolutely solid reliability...maybe that is not for everybody, but apparently lots of folks like that just fine.
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benecewicz @ 7th Aug 01:14PM:
Re: Love those turtles, but...
Thats funny... I just traded in my Hyundai for a Yaris for the same reason. It was a loaded Sante Fe, so it actually paid for about %70 of the Yaris price. I didn't have much of a problem with the Hyundai til a couple months ago, when they called fixing the power window an 'adjustment' and charged me $180 instead of it being covered by warranty.... bastards...
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LeftOfSanity @ 7th Aug 01:23PM:
Re: Comcast
said by ztmike :
Honestly, in my area its Comcast or Atat dsl, and Comcast is actually good in my surrounding area, good pings/stable, only thing im pissed about is the slow ass upload speed of 384, 8/768 is not included in their triple play so i cant get that. They need to up the damn upload speed already.
You can still get the 8/768 in triple play package. Its just an additional $10.
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JeepMatt @ 7th Aug 01:42PM:
Re: BMW vs. Hyundai pretty apt..
I'm sorry - but those commercials are HILARIOUS! :p
Comcast should win a marketing award for them.
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Homebrew1994 @ 7th Aug 01:50PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
I totally agree. You can only compare these if they are in houses next to each other.
My parents, living a few blocks away from me, have Verizon DSL. It is the most unreliable connection of anything I have ever heard of. There are people here that swear by the stability of their DSL connection.
I have Comcast and cannot remember the last time I had a connection issue. I have friends a few miles away that have horrible connections with Comcast.
Of course, Comcast completely rewired my entire town a few years ago. In my neighborhood it is all underground. Verizon is using 50 year old wiring. In their neighborhood it is all on poles.
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Richard B @ 7th Aug 01:56PM:
Comcast VS Verizon
I only had Verizon 1.5Meg speed before I switched to Comcast. Comcast is the better speed. 4-6Meg but speed boost makes the deal. Price is an issue I would had gone back to DSL if I can get the 3M speed and Comcast changed me unbundled broadband fee of $52 for 4Megs. I voided the unbundled broadband fee by just buying basic cable.
I only had one slow down compared to multi day outage with Verizon.
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Maxo @ 7th Aug 01:56PM:
Re: Half the story.
said by china crisis :
So why don't you save another $10 bucks a month and go Netzero if speed is NO FACTOR?
Find where I said speed was not a factor and then I will switch. Scouts honor.
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MJRudzik @ 7th Aug 02:03PM:
Re: I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper
said by rradina :
Agreed. Hyundai was #2 or #3 in JD Powers Customer satisfaction surveys. They've come a long way and what's rather bad for the incumbents is they do most of it with our labor here in the states.
Actually Hyundai has set up operations here see Hyundai USA's website Specifically about the large plant they built in Alabama
»www.hyundaiusa.com/abouthyundai/···ent.aspx
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MJRudzik @ 7th Aug 02:14PM:
Comcast Vs DSL
I've had both DSL and Comcast. Here in Missouri we have AT&T as the DSL last mile regardless of actual provider. The DSL was solid when it was SBC. Since they changed to AT&T it went to crap. Constant disconnects unexplained recurrent shorts at the CO and incomplete tickets. I Feb I got fed with both AT&T and Dish Net so I switched to Comcast Triple Play. I 6 months in and haven't had one slow down yet. I always get my full 6mbit connection and my power oost works great. The only tech issue I have had was when the hd in my dvr died suddenly. But I just drove over to the office and got another no biggie. I never thought I'd say it but i wish that I had given Comcast a chance earlier.
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bogey780 @ 7th Aug 02:40PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
DSL is engineered for stability. Unless you have a fault on the line you shouldn't lose connection.
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CConverse @ 7th Aug 02:50PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
As if enough people haven't agreed already, I personally found that the cable connection in my area isn't oversold so it's very stable... my DSL on the other hand decided to take a crap every time it thunderstormed. Really interfered with checking the local weather radar online...
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quatrix @ 7th Aug 02:50PM:
Re: Love those turtles, but...
No, it wouldn't be. I see 15/2 listed as the highest FIOS tier, but I get about 20/1.5 with Comcast. Yes, it's PowerBoosted and not permanent, but for me and most users who don't pirate movies and such all day, it doesn't matter.
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Homebrew1994 @ 7th Aug 03:05PM:
Re: Forget the speed...
said by bogey780 :
DSL is engineered for stability. Unless you have a fault on the line you shouldn't lose connection.
I cannot say why their connection is so bad, but I would suspect the really old infrastructure in their neighborhood.
I would imagine that cable is also engineered for stability. I can't imagine someone designing instability into the system on purpose.
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kwayzcat @ 7th Aug 03:08PM:
Comcast is not faster than DSL
I guarantee my usable speeds on my 6.0/768 Speakeasy line blow Comcast out of the water. Here in Chicago, Comcast offers 6mb down speeds big whoop so does AT&T and its CHEAPER.
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NyQuil Kid @ 7th Aug 03:20PM:
If cable is BMW....
Then FiOS is the damn USS Enterprise E thank you......
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xrobertcmx @ 7th Aug 03:58PM:
Re: Love those turtles, but...
We ran into a a problem with the brakes on my aunts Sonata, the rotors warped. The dealership in Fairfax tried to pass it off as user error, but a quick call to Hyundai Consumer affairs fixed that problem. I'd buy another Elantra in a heart beat, if the 4 door/5 speed got better then 28 mpg.
My 2 door Yaris supprised me a bit though, I bought the automatic because my girlfriend won't drive a stick, and the city milage is just now hitting the 32/33 range.
Highway to NY though hit 42/44 and on the flat state route way, way up north I did 160 mi before droping the first 1/8 of a tank.
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MJRudzik @ 7th Aug 04:27PM:
Re: Comcast is not faster than DSL
I can see where in Chicago you could probably get better phone service but here in Independence Mo I know of few people who can actually get provisioned faster than 1.5 on dsl. They offer 6.0 but I dont know anywhere in our town where the lines are clean enough to do it. My Comcast never slows down though.
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xo @ 7th Aug 05:06PM:
DSL is faster then cable
because the latency is lower. (generally)
you people are confusing speed (latency) with throughput (bandwidth).
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toadlife @ 7th Aug 05:34PM:
Re: Comcast = Cingular
Haven't had a problem with T-Mobile in 5 years. Guess YMMV.
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WizardzWrath @ 7th Aug 06:14PM:
Re: DSL is faster then cable
No, what you aren't factoring is latency/throughput for a total speed. Dsl may be 5ms faster getting there..but I'll download a 100 meg file faster every time. Both are measurements of "speed".
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ctceo @ 7th Aug 06:35PM:
Speed Vs. Price Vs. Caps
DSL:
If you go At&t, and are using regular pricing, not promo.
Maximums in my area:
-6 meg down 768kb up
-No Caps as far as total data consumption
-$45/mo
If you get a Dual-wan router, and order a second DSL line to the same account (this is possible, as is quad in most homes) You can double your speeds (in parallel 12 down 1.536 up) for $75/mo ($150/mo for quad 24down 3.072 up)
With the unveiling of more FTT Curb, and Upgraded Infrastructure including ADSL2 You can even get U-Verse from At&t when it becomes available to you.
Cable:
-8 meg down 768kb meg up
-Inviso-Caps for total data consumption, you never know if your stream will be throttled or stopped when downloading, web browsing, or watching streaming media. Because the inviso-cap is set by regions based on an average consumption rate per pedestal tree for that region.
-$70+ per month
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anon @ 7th Aug 08:27PM:
BMW?
Strange that Comcast would compare themselves to BMW as the German company has been having electrical problems with their premier models in recent years.
I wonder if the ad company has a very warped sense of humor. If I were Comcast I would want my money back. LOL
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matrix3D @ 7th Aug 09:35PM:
Re: Don't throw rocks at us! But...
Actually, it's "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." ;)
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DonoftheDead @ 7th Aug 10:21PM:
Happy on the Island
Cable here is not available for a lot of us. BFD I've got 5.5/512 on whidbey telecom. Varies from 5.4 to 4.5 depending on where I'm surfing. When the power goes out, cable is gone but my DSL is ALWAYS on. Even when everything else electrical is down. Downloads are more limited by the servers I'm downloading from than my connection. Better than cable(especially if cable is unavailable)! :)
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jamesfalknor @ 8th Aug 09:35AM:
distance limitations
To all of you with DSL, what is your distance from the CO.
I am greater than 17,000 feet from our CO. The only available DSL is IDSL at 144/144.
That is slow compared to Comcast's WorkPlace Enhanced service at 8.8/1.6.
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Finalnight @ 8th Aug 10:55AM:
Re: distance limitations
Too bad in both residences I have had in MN, I have only qualified for Qwest 1.5. The vast majority of people in the Twin Cities only get Qwest 1.5 because they refuse to build new remote locations. So I use Comcast.
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anon @ 8th Aug 11:23AM:
Comcast cooks
I have the 6 or 8 meg and still get downloads of 13+ so ahemm forget dsl. PLUS the further away from that central office the slower your dsl speeds. Cheapskate = dsl , betterskate = cable tee hee
:D
But ya when Verizon brings the fiber I'm jumping the boat.
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HyPeRbAnD @ 8th Aug 02:55PM:
Re: I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper
It should have been Toyota VS Kia .
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Re: Love those turtles, but...
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