said by TK Junk Mail :

The big question is will the ISPs find it worthwhile to put their equipment in the Co-LO and sell service to the homeowners and at what price will they provide services. With only 400 potential customers, I just don't see the ISPs falling over themselves to sell service.

said by vpoko :

Why wouldn't they? With so much of the infrastructure already in place it's easy profit without much risk. And any ISP with access to the internet backbone could do it, even ones who would not have had enough capital to wire up the houses individually. In any case, it would only take one more step for the homeowners to lease a line of their own accord, in effect becoming their own ISP. Everything simply comes down to the last mile.

said by Richard B :

I got news for you, you are an arrogant holier than thou troublemaker.

said by Matt :

No kidding. And if a startup wanted to offer service, they are a mere cross-connect away from the Tier-1 guys. No more local loop charges for the ILEC, although I'm sure they'll invent a "cross-connect" fee which is just as much and somehow convince themselves that it costs $500/month to maintain a 20' piece of CAT-5e or fiber.

said by wifi4milez :

Its actually a lot more complicated than that. First, the "neighborhood POP" would need to be built someplace. The LEC is surely not going to build, power, and maintain this "meet me room" facility just so they can lose business. Secondly, even after (assuming) a 3rd party provider has installed all their equipment there is MUCH more involved than a simply cross connect. Unless every one of the 3rd party providers wants to build fiber from their main POP to the neighborhood POP, they will need to lease some sort of a loop from the LEC. The LEC certainly isnt going to provide them dark fiber, so this means they will need to buy a DS3 or an OC3 depending on how many end users they think they can sign up. This is no longer a cross connect, and is now a traditional private line. Given that the LEC controls this circuit (and given that the nearest 3rd part POP could be miles away), this local loop could cost thousands of dollars. All these things considered, how much do you think a 3rd party provider is willing to spend just for the chance to provide someone with $30 a month internet service???

said by Matt :

What type of infrastructure do you think Verizon, AT&T, Time Warner and Comcast already utilize? This exact model. Do you think their biggest expense is in providing a single (or redundant) huge pipe to a single location, or hundreds of thousands of DSL/Fiber and cable lines to individual houses? What about the engineers to maintain and monitor, the truck rolls, all the supporting infrastructure.

said by keyboard5684 :

I live in the community and was trying to do a service. People complain, still even after the venture, about the fact there is not better broadband services.

I never failed, I just did not want to lose my house over it. I do not have as much money as Verizon or the cable company. Seems to me if they would have left me alone I would have succeeded.

said by keyboard5684 :

Well, what happened is the local crappy analog TV station fought it, the borough fought it, and many people and businesses fought it. Why? Because most people already paid a fee to the local coop (the cable company) and felt they should be doing it, which they never will.

said by keyboard5684 :

"In 5 years the community will still be stuck with 3megs and their 768 upload.

said by keyboard5684 :

As far as the business, it still operates to serve business customers with workarounds, no residential. Because I cannot hang fiber on poles I cannot get the capacity I need for all those customers but using radio mesh I can get enough to serve the businesses.

said by keyboard5684 :

I really do not know why I took the time to write this. In real life I would just punch you for your lack of understanding, we would clearly have a reason to fight. You insulted me and the community I live in. Visit us sometime, we will be waiting for you.

said by TK Junk Mail :

The big question is will the ISPs find it worthwhile to put their equipment in the Co-LO and sell service to the homeowners and at what price will they provide services. With only 400 potential customers, I just don't see the ISPs falling over themselves to sell service.

said by Enlightener :

Maybe I should RTFA but I'm wondering `how` would you repair it? If there is a break, do you somehow have permission to go digging in front of the house 2 blocks down the street?

I could understand it being community property perhaps owned by an association with everyone sharing the expenses, but to own it out right, hell I don't know how you could hold title.