Phorm Eyes U.S. ISPs - Behavioral advertising debate far from over...
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Phorm Eyes U.S. ISPs
Behavioral advertising debate far from over...
06:29PM Tuesday Sep 30 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: legal · business · privacy
While U.S.-based behavioral advertising firm NebuAD found their business model crippled by Congressional investigation, UK-based Phorm has had no such problems in the UK, despite their history as a rootkit developer. They are, in fact, moving forward with a new trial of their user-tracking ad system with British Telecom, after a huge outcry resulted from the two parties testing the system without informing subscribers. This week, Phorm expressed great interest in expanding their highly controversial UK operations to the U.S.:
CEO Kent Ertugrul writes, "We believe Phorm's technology is global and is relevant to any market around the world that has a meaningful broadband user base." He goes on to describe expansion into non-U.K. markets as a "key strategic priority" for the company, and adds that it is continuing to "engage with a number of major ISP's in selected markets internationally." ... In reference to (privacy concers), Ertugrul suggests, "Our experience in the U.K. prepares us well to address concerns that have been raised in the U.S. and to engage accordingly."
NebuAD's ISP clients all walked away when Congress began asking whether selling user browsing data without a functional opt-in system violated U.S. wiretap and privacy laws. Congress is now considering passing a law that would make all such systems opt-in, instead of opt-out. Verizon and AT&T recently proposed a voluntary opt-in program in order to pre-empt any new laws. Phorm's UK profits mean they can afford to wait while Congress figures out just what kind of restrictions they'd like to place on the sale of user browsing data.

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funchords @ 30th Sep 06:42PM:
One if by Land, Two if by Sea

We don't want to be spied on. We don't like it when the NSA does it, why would we allow anyone else to do it?

ISPs need to stop selling click-stream data without explicit opt-in as well.
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SilverSurfer @ 30th Sep 06:47PM:
It's Alive!

Phorm: The bastard, redheaded, British stepson of NebuAd.
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Lineage @ 30th Sep 06:48PM:
Heh

Britain has privacy invasion of almost 1984 proportions, if they think they can duplicate the success they have there over here, they are badly misinformed.
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"We are now in the golden age of thieves. And where I come from we put thieves in jail, we don't bail them out." — Rep. Pete Visclosky

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anon @ 30th Sep 07:34PM:
Re: Heh

Is text only Lynx still around? Anyone know how noscript and trackmenot will work? I used the net w/0 graphics for years while we were on dial-up. No hardship to do it again.
Zuben
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knightmb @ 30th Sep 07:54PM:
Re: One if by Land, Two if by Sea

Time for a Anti-Phorm site ? I had such good luck with the anti-NebuAD site. :D

[edit: Spelling Typo]
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lcnoble @ 30th Sep 08:40PM:
Phorm

The following url may be of interest:

»www.antiphorm.com/index.htm

I have not tried this stuff, so I can not recommend. The page is in my bookmarks, just in case!
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funchords @ 30th Sep 10:17PM:
Re: Heh

The Ads aren't the thing to worry about, it's the spyware embedded in the network. (Phorm is 121Media, famous for their rootkit PeopleOnPage/ContextPlus/Apropos.) And, you can't opt-out of anything besides the behavioral ads, you're still getting everything you say and see on the net mirrored to this very untrustworthy 3rd party.
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anon @ 1st Oct 06:03PM:
Re: Heh

Well, I don't want the spyware, but they also can't sell what I can't see. Besides which, I usually read astronomy, geology, and machine embroidery and sites like these. I don't bother with social sites. I really can't see Televue bombarding me with ads.
I thought there was some kind of blocker for FF. It's still in beta, though.
Zuben
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Grail Knight @ 1st Oct 10:04PM:
Re: Heh

quote:
I thought there was some kind of blocker for FF. It's still in beta, though.


Are you referring to the Dephormation extension. »www.dephormation.org.uk/?page=3
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anon @ 4th Oct 07:33AM:
Re: Phorm

The Author needs to look at the Interim Reports just Published.

This Company has never made a profit other by Market Share Promotions & it's made a Large LOSS, spending on only on what looks like Lobbying firms etc???

THe Latest Test is under Siege by both BT Users (see the beta.bt.com monster thread & it's enforced followup.

No Legitimate Phorm Cookies have yet been detected by BT Customers or other Subscribers looking for one, after supposedly 1 week of the Test.

Please if you find evidence of such cookies, leave a Post on the nodpi.org Website in one of the relevant Articles (with as much detail as possible) & it will be picked up by some of the Regulars there!
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anon @ 10th Oct 07:24AM:
Re: Phorm

»www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/10···m_again/
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