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Still Waiting On Time Warner Cable DOCSIS 3.0
This speed test now goes to eleven...
02:06PM Wednesday Jul 01 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: business · bandwidth · networking · RoadRunner Cable
Time Warner Cable has upgraded their NYC speed test so it has a maximum top speed of 100Mbps, instead of the previous top speed of 20Mbps. We asked the company if faster speeds were any closer, and were told they're getting "closer every day" and to "stay tuned." Insiders at Cisco working with the company have told us DOCSIS 3.0 gear has been installed in NYC for testing for months, and company COO Landel Hobbs recently confirmed NYC upgrades would be done by the year's end.

As for further DOCSIS 3.0 deployments, the company says they'll be "surgical" in nature. That's code for targeting areas where the company faces competition from Verizon FiOS, and can't get away with nursing last-generation infrastructure. According to Hobbs, the company faces telcoTV competition in 22% of its footprint; 15% AT&T U-Verse and 7% Verizon FiOS.

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Verizon recently signed a franchise agreement to wire all of New York City by 2014 with FiOS, making NYC an upgrade priority. With just 7% of their footprint impacted by FiOS, and AT&T exploring metered billing themselves, you can see why Time Warner Cable isn't in a particular rush, and why they weren't particularly worried about customer defections during their recent failed attempt to hoist metered billing upon a skeptical public.

Via an official Twitter account, Time Warner Cable Vice President of Public Relations still spends much of his time defending the company's metered billing efforts. Speaking to the company's outspoken Twitter critics today, Dudley insisted "we don't think a huge number of customers -- aside from all of you, my favorites -- will pay for DOCSIS premium service." We'll find out soon. At least one company insider seems to believe the launch is a matter of weeks, not months.

Being the second largest cable company and having just one market upgraded in 2009 with relatively inexpensive DOCSIS 3.0 gear isn't particularly ambitious. Compare that to the number one cable operator Comcast -- who plans to have 65% of their markets covered by DOCSIS 3.0 by the end of this year -- and 100% of their markets DOCSIS 3.0 enabled by the end of 2010.

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baineschile @ 1st Jul 01:19PM:
This is news?

This is news that we are waiting a product? It will be bigger news when it is actually LAUNCHED.

Also, rumor mill on the internet is that their top offer will be a 100/20 in NYC? Anyone else heard this?
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rit56 @ 1st Jul 01:30PM:
A new meter

So they have a new speed test meter......looks fancy. They still charge to much for triple play. The cost of cable tv is absurd. I await FIOS as does all my neighbors in lower Manhattan. We talk about this TWC. You should experience quite a defection due to your outages (every Monday for the past month) of internet service and your yearly unjustifiable price increases. 16 units in my 20 unit building are switching to FIOS..
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Matt @ 1st Jul 01:48PM:
Re: This is news?

said by baineschile :

This is news that we are waiting a product? It will be bigger news when it is actually LAUNCHED.
It's called "Holding their feet to the fire." The more attention that is drawn toward the fact that they haven't upgraded and are only planning on upgrading a single market, the better.
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deadzoned @ 1st Jul 01:55PM:
Why bother?

I don't even know why they are even bothering with DOCSIS 3.0 because it's useless when you factor in TW's horrible cap and metering practices.

Seriously, it just makes their current offerings a bad deal and future newer offerings useless.
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axiomatic @ 1st Jul 02:13PM:
Missing the point

TW is missing the point of DOCSIS 3.0 anyway. The reason for doing it is to increase bandwidth so you dont have to implement caps and metering because there is no longer congestion on the network.

TW is so full of fail lately. I can;t believe I'm saying this but I am GLAD TW left the Houston area. Dealing with Comcast is far preferable to dealing with TW.
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baineschile @ 1st Jul 02:44PM:
Re: A new meter

Fios pricing is comperable to cable, so thats not really a just argruement.

The good arguement is what you get with Fios.....faster internet, more HD stations, etc
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iansltx @ 1st Jul 02:45PM:
Re: This is news?

100/20? Sounds competitive...that'd place TWC squarely as the fastest-upload cable ISP in the US and put it on par with FiOS for the moment in terms of advetised upload speeds (though I hear FiOS peeps are now getting 25-35 Mbps up on the new rate plans).

Combine that with the fact that you can't cap and tier by GB per month in a competitive (read: FiOS) market and I'm hapy for NYC customers, once TWC gets off their lazy butt and does something.
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iansltx @ 1st Jul 02:47PM:
Re: Why bother?

Easy: they can't/won't cap and tier n FiOS markets. They'd lost all their customers to Verizon if they did. Unless of course they offered 100/20 for $50 per month with a 100GB cap, trading speed for transfer capacity and price.
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jester121 @ 1st Jul 02:54PM:
Re: This is news?

said by iansltx :

Combine that with the fact that you can't cap and tier by GB per month in a competitive (read: FiOS) market
What if Verizon decides to institute caps?
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iansltx @ 1st Jul 03:02PM:
Re: This is news?

Then we're screwed.

Kidding, kidding. Then someone else will try to roll out a high-end fiber network in muni NYC, since bandwidth is pretty cheap anyway.

Also, remember that Verizon is competing against Cablevision, who has already said they aren't going to cap. o if Verizon capped they'd lose customers in half their NYC market. That or they'd have to have dcaps in one half and no caps in the other. A messy siatuation to be sure.

Also FYI ALL TWC speed tests have had 100 Mbps for awhile now. The Austin one certainly does, and it's nowhere near DOCSIS 3 territory (nearest FiOS is in Dallas).
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curls310 @ 1st Jul 03:12PM:
funk TWC

They're the worst cable company of them all... I've had them all in my area - Cablevision, TWC, Directv and Verizon. They sucked in service and product.

Thank goodness I live in an area not serviced by them. I'm a happy FIOS customer.
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anon @ 1st Jul 03:15PM:
rcn

even little guys like RCN will be launching docsis 3.0 before TW does.
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patcat88 @ 1st Jul 04:44PM:
Re: This is news?

said by jester121 :

said by iansltx :

Combine that with the fact that you can't cap and tier by GB per month in a competitive (read: FiOS) market
What if Verizon decides to institute caps?
There is RCN in 1/6th of NYC.
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sonicmerlin @ 1st Jul 05:10PM:
TWC

I've had them for the last 7 or 8 years and my speed hasn't changed even once. Apparently years of technological advances that have made bandwidth exponentially cheaper year after year doesn't apply to TWC.
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Cogdis @ 1st Jul 06:01PM:
Re: A new meter

said by baineschile :

Fios pricing is comperable to cable, so thats not really a just argruement.
That depends on your location.
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gorehound @ 1st Jul 06:16PM:
Re: This is news?

and we are screwed in portland maine.i wonder when and if we will ever see this happen here............
and if it did it will probably be metered billing and that is a waste of time.
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JonRup @ 1st Jul 06:44PM:
Screw you, Time Warner.

And in the mean time our "turbo" connections here in Ohio only have a upload of 768kbps, great news.
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djrobx @ 1st Jul 08:19PM:
Re: Missing the point

TW is so full of fail lately. I can;t believe I'm saying this but I am GLAD TW left the Houston area. Dealing with Comcast is far preferable to dealing with TW.
Well put. You should be glad - we lost Comcast and it has not been a good thing. It didn't seem so bad at first, prices got a little lower and the "former Comcast" network was reliable. But now we've seen Time Warner's true colors. Poor TV service progress and quality. Cherry picking speed upgrades by zipcode. And of course, their attempts to pioneer the dreaded consumption based billing.

The amount of work they put into making sure non-FIOS, non-UVerse areas get less value for their money in this area is truly pathetic. I chalked it up as a slow upgrade process for a while, but after two years of the same, their intentions are preetty clear.

My other option is AT&T, and while AT&T has their fair share of shortcomings, at least they try to offer their U-verse product more consistently across their territories.
--
AT&T U-Hearse
Your funeral. Delivered.

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RARPSL @ 1st Jul 10:35PM:
Re: This is news?

said by iansltx :

Also, remember that Verizon is competing against Cablevision, who has already said they aren't going to cap.
Also, unlike Comcast who "plans to have 65% of their markets covered by DOCSIS 3.0 by the end of this year -- and 100% of their markets DOCSIS 3.0 enabled by the end of 2010", CV is 100% DOCSIS 3.0 Enabled RIGHT NOW (Ultra 101/15 anytime/anywhere [in their coverage area] you want to order it).
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iansltx @ 2nd Jul 08:28AM:
Re: This is news?

Valid point, but CC serves a much greater (and more dispersed) geographical area than CV.
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anon @ 3rd Jul 09:08AM:
big deal

when i see it i will believe it but how much more do i pay for some thing we should have a year ago i pay a shit load now and the speed is all over the place no one has money any more for this crap caps and slaps
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