The 96kbps 'Broadband' Connection - Probably NOT made for Pirate Bay junkies...
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PhoenixDown @ 20th Jul 03:25PM:
great dea;
It may not be the fastest connection but it beats dialup and its a great package to get for your grandparents who probably only write a few emails and check the winning lottery #'s anyway.
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bmn @ 20th Jul 03:29PM:
96Kbps can't be called broadband...
IIRC, and IANA, by FCC regulation, 96kbps does not qualify to be called broadband, so any company calling it that could definitely be running afoul of some false advertising regs.
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inteller @ 20th Jul 03:33PM:
holy crap just use your phone
even the crappiest 1xRTT can do better than that. i'd pay $20 for an EDGE plan and have the ability to take it with me.
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Mic @ 20th Jul 03:34PM:
Wow... that's cheap
Good thing this wasn't made public anywhere or they might lose some business. Oh wait...
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partysource @ 20th Jul 03:34PM:
Cox Has 512K For 9.95
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rds24a @ 20th Jul 03:38PM:
Re: 96Kbps can't be called broadband...
TWC-WOH has been careful not to call it broadband. They call it "high speed" or in some places just "Internet access." Compared to a dialup it is high(er) speed.
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David @ 20th Jul 03:54PM:
This doesn't suprise me.
I for a while sold (when available) 192-384/128-384 connections to some businesses as a backup line. Sounds stupid, but you would be surprised who does buy these things. There is definitely a market for it. I get a request as least once a week seeing if they could even get 384/384 speeds. As least 1 a week. Some for businesses looking for a backup, as of recent a guy looking for basic broadband for his parents. I hope one day we do bring back the tier of 384-128/128-384 speeds but I can only hope we do. It's not just the grandparents that buy them. Small businesses do for backup plans, so they don't totally go out. I used to get service orders for this, and people who wanted a cheaper price than ISDN service.
There is definitely a market out there if someone delivers it. It will certainly go against the grain of thought on this site but we don't represent everyone. Not every grandmother cares for 6mbps to her house.
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Rick @ 20th Jul 04:08PM:
Not a bad deal
And, it's not really that slow either, at least compared to most dialup connections.
Back in the dialup days, if you could get a good connection on a 56k modem, it never really seemed that slow. It was those 20~30k speeds that were the killers. This is essentially 3x's what that was together with much lower latency and I'm sure most dialup users would be thrilled with that.
Plus, it's an always on connection as well.
With that said however, I wonder how many remaining dialup customers would still take it? I say that because I have this relative..in her late 50's..and that woman simply will NOT change from AOL dialup. She even SWITCHED to full blown RR service..and then..SWITCHED BACK to aol, saying "she didn't need it" and "missed her AOL service".
I mean, whatcha gonna say to someone like that? At the VERY least, I did finally get her to cut her aol dialup down to the 10.00 offer. But hey, all she had to do was click that keyword button she loves so much to do that. :)
She'd never take this offer even. That woman is never going to leave AOL. ;)
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dangarion @ 20th Jul 04:19PM:
Dataline
It's called Dataline, and it's usually only offered to Time Warner Cable customers that have Digital Phone service and want a connection to the internet for doing not much more then email and limited browsing.
It is not pushed as a broadband product. But I'm surprised they call it high speed in Ohio...
And it is also available in other areas besides Ohio. Like Los Angeles.
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anon @ 20th Jul 04:23PM:
Speed like that Is One way of getting the Slowskys to switch
Well with Ultra Slow Speeds like 96kbps/64kbps for $10. that Is One way of getting the Slowskys switch back Comcast from fast DSL. :D
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rds24a @ 20th Jul 04:31PM:
Re: Dataline
Their web ad just says "Free Internet Access for one Year....Call for Details."
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DataDoc @ 20th Jul 04:36PM:
Suddenlink defaults to 256k for unregistered modems
I found this out during the process of registering a new cable modem.
Just hooking it up and it not being in their database (it was their fault) will send your browser to their error page telling you to register, if you are using their DNS servers. I don't use their DNS so it took another call to find out why my speed was so slow.
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BillRoland @ 20th Jul 04:45PM:
Re: holy crap just use your phone
said by inteller :
even the crappiest 1xRTT can do better than that. i'd pay $20 for an EDGE plan and have the ability to take it with me.
Yes, but you'll never get anywhere close to the same low latency using 1xRTT or EDGE.
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heels_fan @ 20th Jul 04:57PM:
Slower speed can be good
one of our biggest package is the Basic tier. 384/64 for $24.95.
I think also that that smaller speed packages are there to just get people off of dial-up and onto "high speed".
We do target those customers that are on the basic tier with incentives and specials to get them to a higher speed package.
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axus @ 20th Jul 04:58PM:
better than nothing
$10/month is better than nothing when the line is already laid. And it prevents competitors from getting any. I guess that AT&T's fixed costs don't really depend on how many customers they can reach currently... more about how many new customers they can get, or costs for upgrades and repairs.
If 80% of people got the $10/mo plan, AT&T would only break even, so they gotta keep it secret. Most people only "need" the 10/mo service, if they charged a reasonable amount per byte they'd only be getting $10 from 80% and $100 from 10%.
Weren't they required to offer this as a condition for some merger? or was that unbundled DSL
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new2fios @ 20th Jul 05:00PM:
Re: better than nothing
It's not necessarily cheaper than dial-up. There are many $9.99 dial-up ISPs. I had one for years and it was as good as any other dial-up I have had over the years.
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bjl @ 20th Jul 05:08PM:
Re: Cox Has 512K For 9.95
What's the fine print (the "*")?
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ftthz @ 20th Jul 05:21PM:
hrmm... when covad had a fiber cut last wk
I was glad to have dialup to take of a few things. But having a slower backup broadband would probably be better for fail over.
edit - the covad was a 2 t1 lines
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tater_gunz @ 20th Jul 05:24PM:
Re: 96Kbps can't be called broadband...
said by bmn :
IIRC, and IANA, by FCC regulation, 96kbps does not qualify to be called broadband, so any company calling it that could definitely be running afoul of some false advertising regs.
My company has been offering symmetric 96Kbps service for years in addition to the more speedy tiers. Our "Lite" package is not $10 a month though. I think it's closer to $15 for bundlers. Either way, it's advertised clearly on the
company website right next to all the more expensive stuff.
If nothing else, 96Kbps is adequate for most gaming and VoIP services. Why pay more if you don't need the additional bandwidth?
My father has very basic connection needs, and this level of service suits those needs nicely. Of course, any time I'm over at his place with my lappy it makes me appreciate my 10Mbps service at home and even my EVDO connection (minus the huge latency of course) just that much more... :)
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tater_gunz @ 20th Jul 05:28PM:
Re: Suddenlink defaults to 256k for unregistered modems
Wow, that's insane! By default I believe ours are limited to like 5kbps symmetric when given a "no data" policy.
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tater_gunz @ 20th Jul 05:36PM:
Re: hrmm... when covad had a fiber cut last wk
said by ftthz :
I was glad to have dialup to take of a few things. But having a slower backup broadband would probably be better for fail over.
I agree. I don't understand why businesses that don't necessarily need symmetric speeds or 100% utilization SLA's purchase expensive T1 or higher connections. I've tried to convince one of my friends, a network administrator for a law firm, to simply get two or three 10Mbps cable modems behind a quad-WAN router, and a DSL connection as a cheap and reliable backup. Currently they're paying over $700 / month for a paltry T1! Other than the guaranteed uptime, slightly better latency, lack of traffic shaping, and whopping 1.5Mbps of upstream, I see absolutely no reason to stick with the T1 at that price.
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tyscoj @ 20th Jul 06:56PM:
Re: hrmm... when covad had a fiber cut last wk
Uptime is a big item for any business using the internet. Is your network administrator running any Servers over this T-1 they have?
If so, then guaranteed uptime with the T-1 would be worth every penny.
Imagine loosing a case because you didn't receive that e-mail in time.
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stevesa @ 20th Jul 07:16PM:
'Lite Internet'
I work for a tiny cable operator in South Pittsburg, TN. We offer a 'lite' package that is 512/256 for 19.95/month with no contract. We tried an even lower package of 64/64 for 10.00 but it was not worth the trouble. For our older customers, this package seems to hit the spot.
The term 'broadband' is a bit misleading. Everything to do with CATV, whether or not you have data service, is broadband. My system runs at 870 MHZ bandwidth. That is broadband for sure. The term is just used in the wrong context.
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stevesa @ 20th Jul 07:19PM:
Re: 96Kbps can't be called broadband...
I work for a tiny cable operator in South Pittsburg, TN. We offer a 'lite' package that is 512/256 for 19.95/month with no contract. We tried an even lower package of 64/64 for 10.00 but it was not worth the trouble. For our older customers, this package seems to hit the spot.
The term 'broadband' is a bit misleading. Everything to do with CATV, whether or not you have data service, is broadband. My system runs at 870 MHZ bandwidth. That is broadband for sure. The term is just used in the wrong context.
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dvd536 @ 20th Jul 08:23PM:
Re: Cox Has 512K For 9.95
said by bjl :
What's the fine print (the "*")?
Goes up to $14.95/mo after the six month intro rate expires.
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watts3000 @ 20th Jul 08:27PM:
Re: 'Lite Internet'
tater_gunz I do work for small business every now and than. I agree with you on T1'S being over priced. However uptime is important but imo most business class dsl setups perform very well and have great uptime. I can remember one of my customers going down 1 time in 4 years. However I don't think I would recommend business class cable but I have know problem with dsl. I always keep a extra modem on site just in case. Broadband has caused most T1 prices to drop he should be able to get better pricing than that. I don't know why everyone thinks T1's don't go down because they do.
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cwire @ 20th Jul 08:28PM:
Re: hrmm... when covad had a fiber cut last wk
24 hour maintenance. if it goes down, someone is called out to fix it. dsl usually has at least a 12 hour commitment time for troubles, and around my area the cable company (insight) can take much longer to repair a broadband line.
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dangarion @ 20th Jul 09:19PM:
Re: better than nothing
said by new2fios :
It's not necessarily cheaper than dial-up. There are many $9.99 dial-up ISPs. I had one for years and it was as good as any other dial-up I have had over the years.
Yes but, how much is your phone line you are dialing up on?
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bmn @ 21st Jul 01:59AM:
Re: 96Kbps can't be called broadband...
said by stevesa :
The term 'broadband' is a bit misleading. Everything to do with CATV, whether or not you have data service, is broadband. My system runs at 870 MHZ bandwidth. That is broadband for sure. The term is just used in the wrong context.
Very true, from a communications engineering standpoint, yes. From a data engineering standpoint, the term broadband got defined by the FCC in the regulations as at least 200kbps one way.
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fenix_jn @ 21st Jul 02:43AM:
Re: 96Kbps can't be called broadband...
dial-band? :D
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cork1958 @ 21st Jul 05:11AM:
Re: Not a bad deal
said by Rick :
And, it's not really that slow either, at least compared to most dialup connections.
Back in the dialup days, if you could get a good connection on a 56k modem, it never really seemed that slow. It was those 20~30k speeds that were the killers. This is essentially 3x's what that was together with much lower latency and I'm sure most dialup users would be thrilled with that.
Plus, it's an always on connection as well.
With that said however, I wonder how many remaining dialup customers would still take it? I say that because I have this relative..in her late 50's..and that woman simply will NOT change from AOL dialup. She even SWITCHED to full blown RR service..and then..SWITCHED BACK to aol, saying "she didn't need it" and "missed her AOL service".
I mean, whatcha gonna say to someone like that? At the VERY least, I did finally get her to cut her aol dialup down to the 10.00 offer. But hey, all she had to do was click that keyword button she loves so much to do that. :)
She'd never take this offer even. That woman is never going to leave AOL. ;)
Man! That was my sister through and through. Took me 7 years to finally get her off that, and that was mainly only because AOHELL wasn't available when she moved one time to a place that didn't have AOHELL as a local number.
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speed_lover @ 21st Jul 05:33PM:
Verizon 3Mbps
Verizon sells 3Mbps for 30 bucks, for heavens sake.
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goonting @ 22nd Jul 01:57PM:
you should be fortune for 96kbps
In the Philippines PLDT.com calls 88kbps broadband!
»www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=71240
They call it "Hi-velocity Broadband Internet"
And they even got plenty of excuses to tell why you are so slow.
Example.
1.You are very far from the CO.
While I'm just a few blocks away.
2. Internet traffic is very high
etc.
All just excuses...abusing the broadband word...
I could say this because I was there victim until I filed some complaint at them. And I wont stop until they straight up their act.
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goonting @ 22nd Jul 01:58PM:
88kbps is broadband according to PLDT.com
In the Philippines PLDT.com calls 88kbps broadband!
»www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=71240
They call it "Hi-velocity Broadband Internet"
And they even got plenty of excuses to tell why you are so slow.
Example.
1.You are very far from the CO.
While I'm just a few blocks away.
2. Internet traffic is very high
etc.
All just excuses...abusing the broadband word...
I could say this because I was there victim until I filed some complaint at them. And I wont stop until they straight up their act.
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Maxo @ 25th Jul 11:12AM:
Re: This doesn't suprise me.
Not every techy wants 6Mbps. I for one wouldn't mind a connection faster than my current 3M plan, but I'm not willing to pay for it. 3M does much more than I need, for the money I pay. I wouldn't even mind going down to 1.5M if the price was significantly cheap enough.
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joetaxpayer @ 8th Aug 08:50PM:
Re: This doesn't suprise me.
said by Maxo :
I wouldn't even mind going down to 1.5M if the price was significantly cheap enough.
I'd be willing to take a transfer cap of 100GB for a better price. Who need the invisible 200GB cap we have?
JOE
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