U-Verse Launches In Tulsa - As well as parts of Jenks and Owasso, Oklahoma
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fatmanskinny @ 7th Jul 08:59AM:
Tulsa?
I wonder why they are not hitting more major cities like Atlanta. Maybe the smaller cities are considered the "test" cities before they invest in bigger cities like Atlanta?? Who knows!
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benc @ 7th Jul 09:09AM:
Who cares?
Well...
10M/1.5M is better than 6M/768M, but not by much.
They should simply forget about U-Verse, and just use FTTP.
If they did that I *might* be interested in using them for things other than phone, since of course for local service they're the only choice.
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benc @ 7th Jul 09:13AM:
Re: Tulsa?
They covered most of the St. Louis area.
They also covered much if not all of Chicago.
Why not Atlanta? I don't know.
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Nightfall @ 7th Jul 09:23AM:
Re: Who cares?
said by benc :
Well...
10M/1.5M is better than 6M/768M, but not by much.
They should simply forget about U-Verse, and just use FTTP.
If they did that I *might* be interested in using them for things other than phone, since of course for local service they're the only choice.
Mainly because FTTP costs a lot more than U-verse. When you can terminate the fiber at one area and service thousands instead of terminating it at one home and making $100 a month (at best) for cable, phone, and internet, its a no brainer from a decision making process. This is why Verizon FIOS has really only been deployed in very nice neighborhoods.
FTTP will come down in price over time.
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fatmanskinny @ 7th Jul 09:28AM:
Re: Tulsa?
Ahhh, I stand corrected.
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benc @ 7th Jul 09:38AM:
Re: Who cares?
said by Nightfall :
Mainly because FTTP costs a lot more than U-verse. When you can terminate the fiber at one area and service thousands instead of terminating it at one home and making $100 a month (at best) for cable, phone, and internet, its a no brainer from a decision making process. This is why Verizon FIOS has really only been deployed in very nice neighborhoods.
FTTP will come down in price over time.
$100 for all that? How did you get that figure? Are you talking about profit, or just revenue?
If you mean just revenue then I don't see how you get $100. It's very easy to go over $100 with two services, or even just Internet.
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flyingjoey @ 7th Jul 09:39AM:
Re: Who cares?
It's all about making the right investment. The initial investment is going to cost the most, but then you don't have to go back and redo it. If ATT wants to truely complete with FIOS in the future, it's going to have to go back and redo it's wiring... Now how smart is that... NOT VERY.
As a FIOS customer I can honestly say... the darned thing works, yes it took the tech 5 hours to run the wires and get everything where it needed to be... but once again, 7 months later... FIOS makes my old cable connection feel like Dial Up.
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Nightfall @ 7th Jul 09:47AM:
Re: Who cares?
said by benc :said by Nightfall :
Mainly because FTTP costs a lot more than U-verse. When you can terminate the fiber at one area and service thousands instead of terminating it at one home and making $100 a month (at best) for cable, phone, and internet, its a no brainer from a decision making process. This is why Verizon FIOS has really only been deployed in very nice neighborhoods.
FTTP will come down in price over time.
$100 for all that? How did you get that figure? Are you talking about profit, or just revenue?
If you mean just revenue then I don't see how you get $100. It's very easy to go over $100 with two services, or even just Internet.
Just profit if they are lucky. Thats if the customer gets every service they provide. Most customers just get a couple services they need like TV and internet.
I should have clarified. :)
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Splork @ 7th Jul 09:50AM:
Re: Tulsa?
said by fatmanskinny :
I wonder why they are not hitting more major cities like Atlanta. Maybe the smaller cities are considered the "test" cities before they invest in bigger cities like Atlanta?? Who knows!
Uverse is live in parts of Atlanta.
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Nightfall @ 7th Jul 09:51AM:
Re: Who cares?
said by flyingjoey :
It's all about making the right investment. The initial investment is going to cost the most, but then you don't have to go back and redo it. If ATT wants to truely complete with FIOS in the future, it's going to have to go back and redo it's wiring... Now how smart is that... NOT VERY.
As a FIOS customer I can honestly say... the darned thing works, yes it took the tech 5 hours to run the wires and get everything where it needed to be... but once again, 7 months later... FIOS makes my old cable connection feel like Dial Up.
First, the right investment is not thousands of dollars on FIOS to people who can't afford it or don't want it. BBR members would die for a FIOS connection, but Verizon is only interested in deploying it for people who are going to be long term subscribers and for people who will get multiple services.
Most people these days are happy with a 1500/384 connection at home because its cheap. They browse the web a little, and check their mail and thats it. Which is why a lot of broadband providers are making smaller tiers to entice those people to get their service.
I am not debating that FIOS isn't awesome because it is. Any BBR member would love that service. It just won't be widespread anytime soon until the price of installation comes down.
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en102 @ 7th Jul 11:16AM:
Uverse is still too expensive...
for many.
Uverse Packages
$84 U200 = 1.5Mbps/1Mbps with --
Canada = Hollywood North
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aaronwt @ 7th Jul 11:18AM:
Re: Who cares?
said by Nightfall :said by benc :
Well...
10M/1.5M is better than 6M/768M, but not by much.
They should simply forget about U-Verse, and just use FTTP.
If they did that I *might* be interested in using them for things other than phone, since of course for local service they're the only choice.
Mainly because FTTP costs a lot more than U-verse. When you can terminate the fiber at one area and service thousands instead of terminating it at one home and making $100 a month (at best) for cable, phone, and internet, its a no brainer from a decision making process. This is why Verizon FIOS has really only been deployed in very nice neighborhoods.
FTTP will come down in price over time.
Not true in our area for FiOS. It's available to $700K homes and $150K homes, apartments and condos. They plan to wire our entire county within 4 to 5 years.
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Nightfall @ 7th Jul 11:31AM:
Re: Who cares?
said by aaronwt :said by Nightfall :said by benc :
Well...
10M/1.5M is better than 6M/768M, but not by much.
They should simply forget about U-Verse, and just use FTTP.
If they did that I *might* be interested in using them for things other than phone, since of course for local service they're the only choice.
Mainly because FTTP costs a lot more than U-verse. When you can terminate the fiber at one area and service thousands instead of terminating it at one home and making $100 a month (at best) for cable, phone, and internet, its a no brainer from a decision making process. This is why Verizon FIOS has really only been deployed in very nice neighborhoods.
FTTP will come down in price over time.
Not true in our area for FiOS. It's available to $700K homes and $150K homes, apartments and condos. They plan to wire our entire county within 4 to 5 years.
4-5 years would be considered "over time".
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iampedro @ 7th Jul 11:33AM:
Re: Uverse is still too expensive...
I still can't get U-verse I live in the heart of down town houston...
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realcableguy @ 7th Jul 11:59AM:
Re: Tulsa?
said by fatmanskinny :
I wonder why they are not hitting more major cities like Atlanta. Maybe the smaller cities are considered the "test" cities before they invest in bigger cities like Atlanta?? Who knows!
AT&T U-verse Expands in Atlanta
Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:01am EDT
»www.reuters.com/article/pressRel···20080429
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KrK @ 7th Jul 12:37PM:
Tulsa is logical choice
--- Project Pronto build-out is complete here, they were able to build off of existing upgrades.
Atlanta is in former Bellsouth territory, so I'm sure they will get there, but they didn't have the headstart some of the former SBC areas did.
Plus Cox has really been taking a lot of phone business away from AT&T. I will consider U-Verse but only if the price is decent.
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jester121 @ 7th Jul 12:38PM:
Re: Who cares?
said by Nightfall :
Just profit if they are lucky. Thats if the customer gets every service they provide. Most customers just get a couple services they need like TV and internet.
You're dreaming. The most expensive Uverse I could come up with (8 receivers, HD, U400, Max internet) is about $200/month. Add $15 for Playboy channel if you really want it all.
$100/month profit = 50% gross margin, and that ain't happening.
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Nightfall @ 7th Jul 12:43PM:
Re: Who cares?
said by jester121 :said by Nightfall :
Just profit if they are lucky. Thats if the customer gets every service they provide. Most customers just get a couple services they need like TV and internet.
You're dreaming. The most expensive Uverse I could come up with (8 receivers, HD, U400, Max internet) is about $200/month. Add $15 for Playboy channel if you really want it all.
$100/month profit = 50% gross margin, and that ain't happening.
Please re-read what I was talking about. I was talking about FIOS profit, not Uverse. Secondly, I wad adding in every service FIOS has to offer. You are right though, even that may be a little high for even FIOS.
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KrK @ 7th Jul 12:43PM:
Re: Uverse is still too expensive...
Yep just checked some of the bundled options.
Slow internet, no HD, etc etc
You start adding the features you want (decent selection of channels, Faster Internet etc) and it becomes higher then Cox packages.
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xenophon @ 7th Jul 01:28PM:
Uverse in KC vs. TWC
Uverse is also in KC but not in my neighborhood yet, should be soon. I'm thinking about switching from TWC since you can record 4 channels at once but there are two things that can be done with TWC... add an external eSATA drive to cable box to extend DVR and ability to record over firewire to laptop. Can these be done with UVerse STBs?
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bigskank @ 7th Jul 01:57PM:
Re: Uverse in KC vs. TWC
Uverse launched in the OKC metro over a year ago and I still haven't met a living, breathing human being who actually lives in a neighborhood that is even serviced by Uverse (though I did find someone on DSLR who lives in an OKC burb and claimed uverse was available at his house). If AT&T focuses on Tulsa as strongly as they have on OKC, most Tulsans wont be seeing Uverse until at least the end of the *next* presidential term
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anon @ 7th Jul 02:52PM:
Re: Who cares?
it also sucks. do you know how much compression they do on there hd service. it looks like crap. i love how they call it advance tv. so advance you cant watch more to two tv in hd at any give time.
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anon @ 7th Jul 04:05PM:
Re: Tulsa?
Tulsa has been marked as one of those cities that could quite soon take off technologically. That is of course speaking of downtown, there are a few areas not too far from the airport that are... forget about it.
Also the Tulsa airport, believe it or not, is an international hub.
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aaronwt @ 7th Jul 06:47PM:
Re: Who cares?
said by Nightfall :
4-5 years would be considered "over time".
And it is offered currently in lower and upper income areas in our county.
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KrK @ 7th Jul 09:01PM:
Re: Uverse in KC vs. TWC
They've built the boxes all along the side of the subdivision where I live... *however* according to the website, it's not available here. I guess the terminals aren't live yet.
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anon @ 7th Jul 11:46PM:
Re: Tulsa?
Believe it or not, Tulsa was the 1st city with Directv service. It has something to do with Tulsa's demographics.
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cob_ @ 7th Jul 10:33PM:
Available on my phone number
Looks like I can get UVerse now, but don't see much point in it as my Cox services are better and cheaper.
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Derch @ 7th Jul 11:30PM:
Great...
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inteller @ 8th Jul 03:46PM:
Re: Tulsa?
Tulsa has a demographics base that makes it ideal to roll things out in.
if it plays in Tulsa, it'll play most other places.
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inteller @ 8th Jul 03:48PM:
All aboard the FAILboat!
U verse is seriously not a compelling offer against what Cox has here. Cox speed tiers here demolish the best that ATT can bring to the table.
Go shoot yourself in the foot and get Uverse just to spite Cox...but you'll be stuck with an inferior product.
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inteller @ 8th Jul 03:55PM:
Re: Tulsa?
said by Mr Anon :
Tulsa has been marked as one of those cities that could quite soon take off technologically. That is of course speaking of downtown, there are a few areas not too far from the airport that are... forget about it.
Also the Tulsa airport, believe it or not, is an international hub.
no stupid, it only gets an international designation so non US airlines can codeshare. zero international flights originate or terminate from Tulsa. The airport is podunk compared to REAL international airports.
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anon @ 9th Jul 11:03AM:
Must be nice
I cant get any of these services where I live I can barely get phone service but they generally only put this stuff where people are renter's or people move around alot that is why they can't find people who will keep the service for more than 6 months
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